[1) Call to Order – Roll Call]
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          JONAS HERE. COUNCILMAN MURPHY HERE. COUNCILMAN. ALTMAN. COUNCILMAN BUTLER. CITY MANAGER. 
          MANS. CITY ATTORNEY. DRISCOLL. HERE. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE AND THE PLEDGE HERE. 
          INSTEAD OF A MOMENT OF SILENCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MAY WE BE PEACEFUL. MAY WE BE STRONG. MAY WE SEE THE GOOD AROUND US AND SHARE KINDNESS WITH ALL THOSE WE MEET. WHEN THE PATH IS UNCLEAR, MAY WE FIND PATIENCE. 
          AND WHEN WE STUMBLE, MAY WE GRANT OURSELVES GRACE. WE OPEN OUR HEARTS TO WISDOM, COMPASSION AND THE STEADY UNFOLDING OF LIFE. THANK YOU. FOR ALL CITIZENS ACADEMY 
          [4) 2026 Fall Citizens Academy Graduation]
GRADUATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT THIS GRADUATION WITH YOU THIS EVENING. THE ACADEMY, AS YOU KNOW, IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS INITIATED SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO GET HELP CITIZENS GET INVOLVED IN PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND PROVIDE THEM DIRECT EXPOSURES TO CITY STAFF SO THAT THEY COULD UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT IN WHICH WE OPERATE. AND ADDITIONALLY, TO LEARN ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY BASED PARTNERSHIPS. IN THAT RESPECT, I BELIEVE THIS CLASS STANDS OUT FOR MUCH, AND. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY THANKING THE STAFF THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM. THEY DEVOTE MUCH TIME TO ENSURING THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE BEST CLASS EXPERIENCE AND INFORMATION PROVIDED TO YOU DURING YOUR TIME WITH US. AND I ALSO NEED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM AND THE PASSION THAT YOU DEMONSTRATED FOR THE CITY THROUGHOUT THE THE COURSE WITH US. AND THAT SHINED THROUGH FOR ME MORE, MORE THAN ANY OTHER CHARACTERISTIC OF THE CLASS. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE LEARN FROM YOU TOO. AND FOR ME, SOME OF THE VALUES THAT WERE REINFORCED ARE THE IMPORTANCE OF HOSTING THIS ACADEMY. I THINK THAT WE HAVE BUILT THROUGH THE PROGRAM SOME GENUINE INTEREST AND PARTICIPATING IN CIVIC AFFAIRS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS IN PARTICULAR, ARE THE BEST ONES TO LEND DEFINITION TO THE CITY AND ITS CULTURE, AND CERTAINLY I'VE LEARNED THE VALUE, AGAIN, REINFORCING A PRINCIPLE OF MINE THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND LENDS MUCH TO A PROCESS. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE REMINDED OF OF THOSE VERY IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES AND FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE CLASS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MIKE PETERS, WHO SERVED AS A FORMER COUNCIL PERSON, FOR ALL ALLOWING AND ENCOURAGING ME TO DEVELOP THE PROGRAM. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS SUCCESSFUL, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A BIT OF A GRADUATION CEREMONY IN MIND, AND JUDY MEYERS, OUR CITY CLERK, WILL SERVE AS THE MASTER OF CEREMONIES FOR THAT, AND WE'LL ASK HER TO COME FORWARD. AT THIS TIME, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, WHAT I SAID WHEN I MET WITH YOU IS THAT YOU'RE GRADUATING, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING AWAY. I WANT YOU TO FIND A WAY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY. SO PLEASE DO THAT. AND I KNOW THESE OTHER FOUR SITTING NEXT TO ME WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER MAN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE GRADUATING CLASS OF THE 2026 FALL CITIZENS ACADEMY. TONIGHT, WE CELEBRATE NOT ONLY THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENT, BUT ALSO THEIR COMMITMENT TO LEARNING AND BECOMING MORE ENGAGED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. IN THIS ACADEMY, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 15 PARTICIPANTS, OF WHICH ALL OF THEM ARE HERE THIS EVENING. WE ALSO HAD ONE ALUMNI MEMBER WHO ATTENDED MOST OF THE SESSIONS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR SHARING THEIR KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCES AND TIME. YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE WITH OUR PARTICIPANTS, OFTEN STAYING LATE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, HELP STRENGTHEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE 
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PEOPLE WHO SERVE IT. TO OUR GRADUATES. OVER THE COURSE OF THE ACADEMY, YOU HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, DEPARTMENTS, PROGRAMS, AND SERVICES THAT HELP OUR COMMUNITY OPERATE. YOU HAVE GAINED VALUABLE INSIGHT INTO THE RESPONSIBILITIES, CHALLENGES, AND DEDICATION INVOLVED IN SERVING THE PUBLIC THAT TAKES PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES EVERY DAY. BY CHOOSING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ACADEMY, YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO INVEST YOUR TIME AND ENERGY IN SOMETHING LARGER THAN YOURSELVES. WHEN RESIDENTS ARE INFORMED, ENGAGED, AND WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER, OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WORTH CELEBRATING. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO TAKE THIS AMAZING JOURNEY WITH YOU OVER THE PAST EIGHT WEEKS. I WILL TRULY MISS YOU ALL AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR CERTIFICATES TONIGHT. I HOPE YOU FEEL PROUD OF WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY, I HOPE YOU FEEL INSPIRED TO REMAIN ACTIVE, INFORMED AND INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO ON THAT NOTE, I WOULD NOW LIKE TO PRESENT EACH OF YOU WITH YOUR CERTIFICATES. 
          FIRST, WE HAVE ANGEL ALICIA. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THAT WASN'T JUST STAND OVER THERE. DENISE CATALDO. CHARLENE CHRISTENSEN. THANK YOU. SAMANTHA. GIDEON. THANK YOU. 
          BRIAN HACKMAN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TRICIA HALL. PETER AIELLO. MARTY JANSE VAN RENSBURG. 
          PRONOUNCE THAT WELL. THANK YOU. IVANA MARTINEZ. JOHN ODOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DONNA. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. JENNIFER. PAT. DAVID VELA. JEREMY WALKER. AND KAY WILLIAMS. I HOPE YOU GET ON THE BUCKET TRUCK NEXT. I INVITE ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS TO COUNCIL. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. GOOD EVENING. SUPER AWKWARD. SHY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE. THIS IS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE. I DO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. A SPECIAL THANKS TO CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MANS FOR SHOWING US ALL OF OUR FAVORITE LOCATIONS AND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO JUDY FOR ALL OF HER HARD WORK AND COMING TO US EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND BEING OUR LITTLE CHEERLEADER AND GUIDER. SO THE FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE CITY, WHAT MAKES THE CITY IS THE PEOPLE, BUT FROM THE CITIZENS TO EVERYONE THAT MAKES IT RUN EVERYONE. 
          THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING I THINK I TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS THE KNOWLEDGE, THE PRIDE, THE PASSION FROM EVERY SINGLE PLACE WE'VE GONE TO. EVEN THE ONES THAT I'VE ALREADY KNOWN ABOUT. 
          I LEARN NEW THINGS OR PLACES THAT I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT. IT'S AMAZING ALL THE THINGS THEY DO. I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS IS DEFINITELY AN UNSUNG HERO OF THE BACKGROUND, ALWAYS HELPING 
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US WITH THINGS. PARKS AND REC HAS AMAZING EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND THINGS FOR CHILDREN AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT PLACES. PUBLIC SAFETY IS DEFINITELY IN MY HEART. SO POLICE AND FIRE WAS REALLY INTERESTING. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE NEW ONE, WAS PHENOMENAL. THAT WAS JUST AMAZING. ALL THAT WORK AND THINGS HAS GONE INTO THAT. AND THE LIBRARY WAS DEFINITELY HAS A LOT OF VERY PASSIONATE PEOPLE AND KNOWLEDGE AND CLASSES THAT THEY DO. SO JUST THANK YOU EVERYBODY, AND FOR HAVING THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY AND DEFINITELY VERY, VERY COOL, VERY INTERESTING. THANK YOU. HELLO. I JUST WANT TO SAY A QUICK THANK YOU TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR YOUR TIME. IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. AND TO DEBBIE AND JUDY FOR BEING HERE WITH US EVERY WEEK. THANK YOU. I REALLY GOT ENJOYED GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU. JUST TO ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT HERE, BUT A. 
          DEBBIE. JUDY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR LEADING US AROUND AND LETTING US BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. IT'S ORCHESTRATED A HECK OF A OF A PROGRAM HERE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN SECOND, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS, AS WE WENT THROUGH, ONE THING THAT THAT REALLY STRUCK ME WAS THE, THE PASSION AND THE ENTHUSIASM FROM THE DIRECTORS AND THE CHIEFS ALL THE WAY THROUGHOUT THEIR TEAMS AS PALPABLE, YOU COULD REALLY FEEL THE ENTHUSIASM FOR HOW THEY'RE SERVING THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY. SO IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL THING. AND FOLKS WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER HERE. SO THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          AGAIN, EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY JUDY, WHO HELD THIS TEAM TOGETHER. I SAID ON THE THE FIRST MEETING COMING IN THAT I WAS NEW TO FLORIDA, NEW TO NEW PORT RICHEY, AND I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, REMINISCENT ABOUT IT. BUT NOW I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE A RESIDENT. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND I WANTED TO PLUG THE CLASS. HELLO, EVERYBODY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO JUDY AND DEBBIE FOR HOSTING. THIS WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY INSPIRING. AND, AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO. MY WIFE SIGNED ME UP FOR IT AND SAID, YOU'RE DOING IT. AND IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. SO IT, IT WAS A PLEASURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THE LAMBEAU LEAP. KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE 24TH OCTOBER 20, 2026 MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, 
          [5) Approval of Minutes]
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I I I. BOX POP, PLEASE. ALL THOSE IN ATTENDANCE MUST BE 
          [6) Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda]
RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS OPINIONS AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS. ANY PERSON WHO BECOMES DISORDERLY OR WHO FAILS TO CONFINE REMARKS TO THE IDENTIFIED SUBJECT OR BUSINESS AT HAND, SHALL BE CAUTIONED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONCLUDE REMARKS ON THE SUBJECT IN A DECOROUS MANNER AND WITHIN THE DESIGNATED TIME LIMIT. ANY PERSON FAILING TO COMPLY AS CAUTION MAY BE BARRED FROM MAKING ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS DURING THE MEETING BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER, UNLESS PERMISSION TO CONTINUE OR AGAIN ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IS GRANTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT OVER THERE. I DO. THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS DOCTOR CADLE. IF YOU'VE SIGNED UP, JUST COULD YOU MOVE DOWN TO THE FRONT ROW, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DONALD CADLE, 6820 RIVER ROAD, NEWPORT. RICHIE. IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT I WOULD SAY THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE COUNCIL, BUT I THINK THE. I WAS SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED IN THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN AT SEA ARE A. I THINK THAT, FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THAT YOU WERE ASKED OR IMPLYING THAT 
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THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH INCOME FOR BRAIN TRUSTS, BUT THEN YOU TURNED AROUND AND SAID THERE WAS PLENTY OF INCOME FOR THE RESERVE. AND THAT SEEMED TO BE KIND OF CONTRADICTORY IN ITS OWN STATEMENT, PARTICULARLY SINCE THE RESERVE OR THE RESERVE IS A MORE COSTLY TYPE OF SITUATION THAN BRAINSTORMING. I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THIS COUNCIL IGNORES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN AND IT GOES, PUSHES FORWARD, THAT IT WOULD REALLY LOOK INTO THE CHARACTER OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, AND REALLY DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS SAFE AND PROCEEDING THE WAY THAT THEY SAID THEY ARE. I WOULD THINK THAT IF THE DEVELOPER IS CHOSEN AND GIVEN A CONTRACT, THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO BE UNDER A STRICT PERFORMANCE TYPE OF BOND, THAT IF THEY DO NOT PERFORM, AS THEY SAID, WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD, THAT EVERYTHING REVERTS BACK TO THE CITY. I THINK THAT THAT'S ONLY FAIR TO THE CITIZENS OF THE OF THIS CITY, AND THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. IF THERE'S A ANY DISCOUNT ON THIS LAND, WE WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD LEGALLY BE TIED ONCE AGAIN TO PERFORMANCE. AND THAT GRAND HALL DOES NOT HOST OR THAT DOES NOT HOST MANDATORY MINIMUM PUBLIC EVENTS, OR THE PROJECT FAILS TO CREATE PROMISED LOCAL JOBS. FINANCIAL PENALTIES AND DRAWBACKS MUST BE INCLUDED IN THAT. SO JUST SOME OF MY COMMENTS ON THIS. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WERE JUST NOT QUITE RIGHT WITH THE QUESTION AND THE WAY THAT IT WENT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS SUE GRAYSON. HI. SUE GRAYSON HERE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          I'M REALLY HERE ALSO IN REFERENCE TO THE CRA MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE AND YOUR SELECTION OF THE MAIN STREET RESERVE. AND I'M REALLY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY DOWNTOWN AND THEIR SMALL BUSINESSES. I HAPPEN TO BE A PRODUCT OF A SMALL BUSINESS. MY BASSINET WAS IN THE DINING ROOM OF OUR RESTAURANT, AND I SMELLED LIKE A FRENCH FRY FOR THE FIRST 16 YEARS OF MY LIFE. SO I KNOW THE STRUGGLES OF BEING IN A SMALL BUSINESS. SO I'M REALLY HERE TO DEFEND THEM AND SAY THAT WE HAVE CERTAINLY ADEQUATE BARS, ADEQUATE RESTAURANTS, AND HOW DIFFICULT THE PROFIT MARGIN IS AND TRYING TO DEAL IN THOSE BUSINESSES. WE'RE ALREADY I'M READING THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES MORE SENSE THAN ME JUST TALKING OFF THE CUFF. OUR DOWNTOWN IS ALREADY UNDERGOING AN INCREDIBLE ORGANIC REVITALIZATION. WE HAVE LOCAL RESTAURATEURS, BAR OWNERS, VENUE OPERATORS WHO INVESTED THEIR VERY OWN LIFE SAVINGS, TOOK LOANS, AND RISKED EVERYTHING TO OPEN DOWNTOWN WITHOUT GETTING MILLIONS IN FREE CASH FROM THE CITY. BY POTENTIALLY GIVING THIS DEVELOPER CHEAP LAND AND A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CUSHION, YOU'RE USING TAXPAYER MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE A MASSIVE, DIRECT COMPETITOR TO THESE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE, UP TO THIS POINT, BUILT THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT PEOPLE ARE NOW COMING TO NEW PORT RICHEY TO ENJOY THE CRA. FUNDS ARE LEGALLY MEANT TO ALLEVIATE SLUM AND BLIGHT, AND NOT TO TIP THE SCALES IN FAVOR OF AN OUTSIDE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A LOCAL DEVELOPER WHO PUT UP A VERY GOOD ARGUMENT THAT WAS NOT CHOSEN TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR EXISTING LOCAL MERCHANTS. AND THEN ASIDE FROM THAT, I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO AND A THANK YOU TO MR. KEVIN TRAPP AND THE STAFF AT THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. I WAS THERE VOTING YESTERDAY, AND IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE THE WIDE RANGE OF THE AGES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING AT THAT FACILITY, AND IT'S ACTUALLY DOING SUCH A WONDERFUL SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR HIRING DEBBIE, FOR HIRING KEVIN TO, TO BE IN THAT POSITION. HE, HE DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB. AND I WANTED ALSO TO END ON A POSITIVE NOTE, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS DONNA JENSEN. GOOD EVENING, DONNA JENSEN, 5922 WYOMING AVENUE, NEW PORT RICHEY MAYOR 
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AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ARE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING A DEAL TO GIVE AWAY A PRIME DOWNTOWN PUBLIC ASSET WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY HANDLING A PRIVATE DEVELOPER. 3.9 MILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS FOR A $22.4 MILLION PROJECT. THAT MEANS THE PUBLIC IS SUBSIDIZING 18% OF THE PRIVATE COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE. IF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER CANNOT MAKE A HIGH END RESTAURANT AND ROOFTOP LOUNGE PROFITABLE IN OUR DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN WITHOUT A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PUBLIC BAILOUT, THEN THE PROJECT IS FINANCIALLY UNSTABLE. WE SUGGEST AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY FORENSIC AUDIT OF THIS DEVELOPER'S FINANCIAL PROFORMA TO PROVE WHY THIS MASSIVE SUBSIDY IS JUSTIFIED. BEFORE A SINGLE CONTRACT IS SIGNED. WE HAVE ALL SEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR RIVER BUILDINGS THAT SET THEIR UNFINISHED FOR YEARS, BUILDINGS AROUND ORANGE LAKE THAT WERE STARTED AND NOW ARE JUST BEING FINISHED. WE HAVE PUMPED MONEY INTO THIS TAXPAYER MONEY AND WE REALLY NEED TO THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THIS GENTLEMAN OR GENTLEMEN DECIDE TO WALK AWAY, LIKE, DISAPPEAR. SO PLEASE LOOK AT LOOK AT HIM, LOOK AT THEM. MAKE SURE THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WE REALLY WANT DOING SOMETHING IN OUR DOWNTOWN. CHECK THE BACKGROUND OF THESE PEOPLE, CHECK THE BACKGROUND OF ANYBODY REALLY THAT'S INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THIS PERSON, BUT ANYBODY. WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW WHO IS COMING TO TOWN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS JUDITH ALLEN. I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS, SO DON'T START THE CLOCK. AND I WILL TELL THE PEOPLE ON THE LINE AND CAMERA WHAT THESE ARE. 
          OKAY, WHAT YOU HAVE THERE ON THE TOP COPY IS A MOTION TO DISMISS. I FILED A MOTION TO DISMISS WHEN I WAS SENT TO CRIMINAL COURT OVER THE DEAD TREE IN MY YARD. AT THIS TIME, I COULD NOT GET A PERMIT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST FOR PERMITS TO DO THE REPAIRS IN MY HOUSE, AND THE FIRST PERMITS I'M GOING TO NEED IS TO PUT SOME PODS OR A SHIPPING CONTAINER IN MY FRONT YARD. THIS IS. AND I'LL GIVE YOU VERY QUICKLY THE CASE NUMBER SO THAT ALL OF YOU CAN FIND IT. BECAUSE I PUT ALL OF THESE RECORDS INTO THE COURT SYSTEM AS PRO SE, SO THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU WOULD NEED TO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET A PERMIT. YOU NEED TO READ THIS. THAT'S 2023MO30124MOAXWS. WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THIS ONLINE TO TAMMY LEDFORD, LEFT, ON A CRUISE JUST BEFORE JULY 4TH. THIS TREE WAS TO BE OUT ON JULY 4TH. I DID NOT GET THE PERMIT UNTIL THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE JULY 4TH WEEKEND, WHICH MADE IT ONLY 4 OR 5 DAYS OVER JULY 4TH WEEKEND THAT YEAR THAT I COULD GET THE TREE OUT. SO I WAS IN NONCOMPLIANCE. I CAME HERE, ASKED FOR MORE TIME, DIDN'T GET IT, AND WAS CRIMINALLY ARRAIGNED TO LESS THAN 48 HOURS LATER. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MANAGED TO GET A CRIMINAL ARRAIGNMENT IN 48 HOURS AFTER JULY 4TH, BUT THEY NOT ONLY HAD THAT, BUT THE HEARING DATE. AND ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ARRAIGNMENTS, IT TAKES SOMETIMES PEOPLE WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS NOW TO GET GET A HEARING. I HAD 1 IN 40 EIGHT HOURS AFTER JULY 4TH. THE NEXT DOCUMENTS ARE THE CODE VIOLATIONS THAT I RECEIVED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS IN MY YARD, INCLUDING A LADDER LEANING AGAINST MY AIRSTREAM, THE BLUE TARP ON THE ROOF. ET 
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CETERA. ET CETERA. I'M SUPPOSED TO HAVE, ACCORDING TO THIS FINAL JUDGMENT FROM THE MAGISTRATE, BECAUSE THEY SENT ME TO THE MAGISTRATE OVER THIS TO ALL THE HURRICANE DAMAGE. 
          FOR YEARS, WE TRIED TO GET IT PASSED OUR CITY MANAGER AND SHE KEPT BLOCKING AND BLOCKING AND BLOCKING IT. SO FROM 2023 TO THIS, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, THAT WAS BLOCKED FOR EVERYBODY. 
          I AM ASKING YOU TO MAKE A MOTION, ONE OF YOU THAT THE THAT I GET A PERMIT TO PUT THE EITHER A SHIPPING CONTAINER OR PODS IN MY FRONT YARD BECAUSE I NEED TO CLEAR THE HOUSE. I HAVE FINALLY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE TO AN 81 YEAR OLD WOMAN NOT HAVING HOT WATER, ETC. SO I'M ASKING FOR ONE OF YOU AND ANOTHER ONE TO SECOND THE MOTION AND ALL OF YOU TO REMEMBER THE BERT HARRIS ACT AND FLORIDA STATUTE 220.7011. I NEED ONE MORE OF THE COPY OF THAT. WE WERE SHORT ONE. ARE YOU WHO WHO DOESN'T HAVE IT? OH WELL THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I GAVE FIVE OUT THERE. YEAH, WE KEEP ONE. FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY. OKAY, I'M NOT FOOLING AROUND ABOUT THIS ANYMORE. NEXT PERSON I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS JOHN KANE. JOHN KANE, 6041 FLORIDA AVENUE. IF YOU RESIDE IN THE CITY AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO AWAY FOR THREE MONTHS OR SIX MONTHS, AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUT A HOLD ON YOUR TRASH, YOU ALSO HAVE TO PUT A HOLD ON YOUR WATER. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY COME IN, LET'S SAY WATER YOUR PLANTS, OR IF YOU HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO GREATLY AFFECT YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO. YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LOSE YOUR PLANTS. IF YOU HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS, AS I DO, I DIDN'T I WAS AWAY FOR THREE MONTHS AND I DIDN'T I DIDN'T CARE. LUCKILY, I DIDN'T CANCEL. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS POLICY. 
          SO I HAD MY GRANDSON COME AND HE KEPT ALL MY PLANTS ALIVE WHILE I WAS GONE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SCENARIOS, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS. I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT SOMETIMES DON'T COME TO LIGHT. IF YOU BUY A HOME AND THE HOME ISN'T LIVABLE AND YOU TAKES A YEAR FOR YOU TO WORK ON IT, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED WATER IN THERE, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT NEED TRASH YET, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A DUMPSTER THAT YOU'VE BOUGHT. 
          YOU PUT ON THE PROPERTY. AND THERE'S OTHER SCENARIOS, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BRING THEM ALL TO LIGHT IS IN. BUT BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM. THERE'S I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A TRASH PROBLEM IN THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS, PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BUY, YOU KNOW, SPEND THE MONEY. BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD DEVELOP A BETTER PROCESS THAN USING THE WATER AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL. YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF THINGS AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. YOU HAVE COMMITTEES. AND I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO TRY AND SIT THERE. YOU'RE AT A MEETING. IT'S NOT THE EASIEST PLACE TO SIT UP AND DEVELOP A POLICY, BUT COMMITTEES CAN DO THAT FOR YOU. THEY HAVE MEETINGS. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE SMART PEOPLE. THIS THIS INVOLVES WATER AND TRASH TO ME, GREAT THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE TO WORK ON AND MAYBE GIVE YOU SOME SUGGESTIONS. MAYBE WHAT WE DO WITH LIKE WITH THE WATER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DOWN PAYMENT. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD WORK OUT WITH THE TRASH TO WHERE YOU GET MONEY BACK WHEN YOU COME BACK GIVES YOU AN INCENTIVE TO NOT, YOU KNOW, TRY AND TO COME BACK AND NOT SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT TO DECLARE THAT YOU'RE BACK HERE AND PAY FOR TRASH. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JUST A BRAINSTORM, YOU KNOW, IDEA, BUT BUT SOMETHING BETTER THAN NOT BEING ABLE TO BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY NEED TO ACCESS THAT WATER. I MIGHT COME BACK EARLY IF I HEAR A STORM IS COMING. AND WHEN I COME OFF THE ROAD AT ONE TWO IN THE MORNING, I WANT TO SHOWER, USE THE BATHROOM, I WON'T BE ABLE TO. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TRASH YET, BUT I NEED WATER. SO MAYBE YOU COULD REVISIT THAT POLICY. THANK YOU. NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS DALE WEBB. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. DALE WEBB, 5647 KENTUCKY AVENUE. THERE WAS AN INTERESTING ARTICLE IN THE SAINT PETE TIMES. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT A GENTLEMAN THAT KIND 
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OF ADOPTED, INSTEAD OF ADOPTING A STREET FOR CLEANUP, WAS ADOPTING DRAINS IN SAINT PETERSBURG, WHERE THEY'VE CONTINUALLY HAD PROBLEMS. AND I THOUGHT, I WISH I WOULD HAVE KEPT THE COPY. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL SAW THAT, BUT THE GUY'S A HERO DOWN THERE. I MEAN, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE CITIES, I MEAN, THE BUSINESSES AND ALL HELP TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. THE CITY CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE. WHEN WE GET THESE, YOU KNOW, FLASH RAINS WHERE FLOODING AND ALL THAT. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR THEMSELVES AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT IN DANGER, AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT LIGHTNING AND ALL AND GET OUT AND CLEAN THOSE DRAINS. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD GET SOMETHING, GET SOMETHING GOING AND. GET SOME PEOPLE INVOLVED, HELP, HELP OURSELVES INSTEAD OF COUNTING ON THE CITY TO DO EVERYTHING. 
          LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THEY CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE. FALL COMING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, TREE BRANCHES AND STUFF. I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD THING TO LOOK INTO. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HELL YOU GET OUT THERE, YOU GET A LITTLE BIT WET AND YOU, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT WATER FLOWING. 
          WE ALL KNOW IF IT COMES OVER 19 AND ALL, BUT WE'RE DOOMED ANYWAYS. BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BACKING UP, WHICH HAS HAPPENED IN THE CITY OVER THE YEARS. SO JUST SOMETHING I THOUGHT I'D FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THE SECOND THING. MONTHS AGO, I QUESTIONED ABOUT THE WOMAN THAT GOT ARRESTED OVER GETTING GRANT MONEY TO INSTALL A FENCE THAT WAS NEVER DONE. I ASKED SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN. I ASKED WHO OKAYED THAT GRANT. I WONDER IF THE FENCE WAS EVER DONE. DID WE GIVE THEM DOUBLE GRANT MONEY? WHO OKAYED THAT GRANT WHEN NO OTHER RESIDENTS WERE GETTING IT? NOBODY. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE. ADDRESSED, AND I'D NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND I WONDERED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THAT. I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW IF THE CITY WAS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO GET RIPPED OFF, PAYING IN ADVANCE FOR A JOB THAT WAS NEVER DONE, WAS IT DONE? DID WE PAY TWICE FOR IT? WAS THERE A PERMIT PULLED? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. I'M ASKING WHO OKAYED THAT GRANT WHEN NO OTHER CITY RESIDENTS WERE GETTING GRANTS AT THE TIME. AND I'M DEMANDING ANSWERS OVER THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO LET THAT GO. THANK YOU. THE FINAL PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS LORI BAKER. LORI BAKER, 5853 LAFAYETTE STREET. I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, THE NEW SIDEWALKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S NICE THAT THEY'RE FINISHED. I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM. I PICKED MY HOUSE PARTICULARLY SO THAT I COULD WALK THE CITY, AND IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU WALK THAT YOU DON'T SEE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING. SO I RECOMMEND PEOPLE WALK MORE, LOOK MORE AND MAKE THE CITY MORE WALKABLE. 
          BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROPERTY AT MAIN AND BANK. PLEASE DON'T SELL THAT OUTRIGHT. IT WOULD BE GONE FOREVER. I'M NOT SURE, BUT I BELIEVE MAYBE THE HACIENDA ALSO HAS A REVERT BACK TO THE CITY CLAUSE. AND I THINK THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, DON'T SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER WHO, AS THE PERSON WHO SPOKE ABOUT OTHER RESTAURANTS AND HOW HARD IT IS TO MAKE A RESTAURANT GO. IF IT SHOULD FAIL, IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT REVERTED BACK TO THE CITY. SO PLEASE CONSIDER ONLY SIGNING A LEASE AND NOT SIGNING A COMPLETE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY. DOWNTOWN LAND IS A VERY FINITE RESOURCE. THE CITY DOES OWN A LOT OF PROPERTY. I RECOGNIZE THAT MAYBE YOU WANT TO UNLOAD SOME OF IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF VACANT PROPERTY. I'M TOLD AROUND AND ABOUT THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AND UTILIZED, BUT I THINK THAT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS SPECIAL AND SIMILAR TO, I BELIEVE, WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE HACIENDA. WHATEVER YOU DO, IT SHOULD REVERT BACK TO THE CITY. SHOULD IT? SHOULD THE DEVELOPER FAIL TO PERFORM. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE FRONT ROW. I WAS CLOSE. JACKIE PHILLIPS, 5441 DRINKER DRIVE. I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DALE TALKING ABOUT THE ADOPT A STREET, ADOPT A DRAIN. I SEEN THAT SAME THING ON FOX 
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13. AND THEN THE CITY IS PROVIDING THOSE PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP, LIKE FOR THEIR STREET OR DRAIN WHATEVER THEY PROVIDE THEM WITH A SAFETY VEST. THEY PROVIDE THEM WITH A PICKUP FOR THE GARBAGE AND STUFF SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO IN THE STORMWATER GET THAT ALL OVER THEIR HANDS AND ALL AND GARBAGE BAGS TO PUT IT IN. AND THEN YOU TIE IT UP AND PUT IT ON THE CORNER, AND THEN THE CITY PICKS IT UP. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT THAT'S A SUPER WONDERFUL IDEA. 
          AND MAYBE BECAUSE I'VE RODE AROUND A LOT OF THESE STREETS AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT'S EVERYWHERE. AND IF WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING THEIR STREET AND THE DRAIN, IF THERE'S A DRAIN ON IT, WHATEVER, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AND IT WOULD JUST MAKE OUR CITY LOOK A LITTLE BETTER. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. FOR THE. OH, I'M SORRY, 
          [7) City Council Response to Vox Pop Speakers]
I FORGOT THAT PART. PATEL. RESPONSE ON. THE. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS ON THE MAIN STREET RESERVE AND THE FUTURE OF THAT FOR THE CRA. I'M GOING TO RESERVE THAT COMMENTARY FOR THE CRA, BUT I HAVE NOTED DOWN THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE MADE ON THE TOPIC OF THE MAY 22ND ARREST OF A PERSON IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHAT WOULD HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN SOME GRANT WORK, OR WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS, JUST REFERENCING THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON SIX THREE, 2026 AT 2 P.M. I DID REQUEST FOR THE CITY MANAGER INFORMATION ON THAT. AND THEN ON 611, 2026, AT 3 P.M. THE CITY MANAGER DID RESPOND AND STATE THAT SHE WOULD PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN HER CITY MANAGER REPORT. I'LL FIND THAT REPORT AND TRY TO RELAY IT OUT TO TO THE PEOPLE, BUT IT'S ALSO ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. NOW, IN CASE ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR THAT INFORMATION. BUT I'LL GET I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WHEN I GET IT, I'LL GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO YOU. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, AND AGAIN, MANY OF THEM DISCUSSING CRA ACTIVITIES. SO WE MIGHT SAVE THAT CONVERSATION UNTIL THE MEETING, SHORTLY AFTER THIS MEETING TODAY. AND I THINK WITH RESPECT TO THE ADOPT A DRAIN PROGRAM, JUST I GUESS WE SHOULD CROW ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, ALONG WITH SAINT PETERSBURG, ARE THE ONLY TWO CITIES IN THE FIVE COUNTY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AREA THAT HAVE ADOPTED A RESOLUTION FOR THE REGIONAL RESILIENCY ACTION PLAN. AND IN THAT ACTION PLAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIZEN BASED IDEAS THAT. THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO CONSIDER AS WELL. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESILIENCY AND THE THREAT OF FLOODS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE LAID OUT THAT CAN HELP TO TAKE THE BRUNT OF OVERFLOWING RIVER WHEN IT OCCURS. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DEVELOP SOME INCENTIVES AS WELL, FOR PEOPLE TO DO THINGS ON THEIR OWN LAND TO HELP TO, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR. SO GOOD IDEA. CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IS GOOD, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH PURSUING. THANK YOU. MATT. I THINK MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY, BUT I DO LIKE THE, THE DROPPED ADOPT A DRAIN PROGRAM OR CLEAN UP YOUR STREET. MAYBE IT COULD DEVELOP INTO LIKE A, SOME KIND OF A CITY PROGRAM. BUT I MEAN, I WOULD SAY IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR STREET, TAKE CARE OF IT. I DON'T THINK YOUR NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO OBJECT IF THEY SEE YOU GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET PICKING UP TRASH. SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN JUST KIND OF DO THAT ON YOUR OWN IF YOU LIKE. I KNOW AT TIMES I'VE BEEN DRIVING AROUND AND SAW SOMETHING IN THE ROAD I STOPPED PICK IT UP, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. BUT MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT INTO SOME TYPE OF A, SOME TYPE OF A PROGRAM. BUT I LIKE, DEFINITELY LIKE THE IDEA. SO I, I LIKE THE, THE ADOPT A DRAIN, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAYBE BUILD THAT INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING ON A LARGER SCALE. I THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING MORE OF, YOU KNOW, A CITIZENS WATCH SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A 
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NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF STREETS. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST LOOKING AT CLEANING THE DRAIN. I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE OF LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR NEIGHBOR. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS COMMUNITY, THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET THEIR TRASH CAN TO THE, TO THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONE FOR THREE MONTHS. YOU KNOW, WAS SOMEBODY JUST KEEPING AN EYE ON YOUR HOUSE? YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOR ME, IF I'M NOT HOME, MY NEIGHBOR'S LIKE, HEY, I NOTICED YOU'RE NOT HOME. ARE YOU GONE? YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEP AN EYE OUT. SO I THINK MAYBE WE CAN BUILD THIS INTO MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN JUST CLEANING DRAINS OUT. I THINK WE CAN LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER ON A BIGGER SCALE. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS UP HERE. YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, JOHN HAD BROUGHT UP WITH THE TRASH AND TURNING OFF WATER. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY BIG DISCUSSION OVER THE YEARS. SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE MAYBE BROUGHT UP INTO DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO, HOW TO HANDLE PEOPLE GOING OUT OF TOWN, HOW WE HANDLE THAT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFER THE CRA COMMENTS TILL THAT MEETING. SO THANK YOU. I THINK EVERYTHING THAT I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. SO 
          [8) Consent Agenda]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA MOVE FOR APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, 
          [9.a) Second Reading Ordinance 2026-2380:  Amendments to Police Pension Ordinance]
I, I NOTHING. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2380. THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2380. 
          AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY. AMENDING, AMENDING CHAPTER 17 PENSIONS AND RETIREMENT ARTICLE FOR POLICE OFFICERS. RETIREMENT SYSTEM OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY. AMENDING SECTION 17-51 DEFINITIONS. AMENDING SECTION 17-51.1 PLAN FREEZE NEW BENEFIT STRUCTURE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY OF PROVISION, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS INDICATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS RELATED TO THE DEFINITION OF FINAL AVERAGE COMPENSATION AND A PLAN FREEZE BENEFIT STRUCTURE. THIS IS A MATTER WHICH WAS FULLY INTRODUCED TO YOU AT FIRST READING BY MR. WETZEL, WHO INDICATED RIGHTFULLY THAT DURING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION, THEY ASKED FOR A PENSION CHANGE RELATED TO FINAL AVERAGE COMP. 
          AND THE REASON THAT THEY DID SO WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD A BIFURCATED SYSTEM IN PLACE. AND THOSE OFFICERS WHO WERE EMPLOYED PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 8TH OF 2017 RECEIVED A DIFFERENT BENEFIT THAN OTHERS. AND THIS EQUALIZES THE BENEFIT SO THAT AN APPROPRIATE BENEFIT STRUCTURE IS EXTENDED TO ALL ACTIVE EMPLOYEES. AND THEY ALL RECEIVE THEIR CALCULATION BASED ON THE SAME FORMULA. MR. WETZEL, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO ADD? NO, MISS, THAT IS CORRECT. IT WILL BASICALLY CREATE ONE CALCULATION FOR THEM INSTEAD OF TWO. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE AMENDMENT AND CHANGE HERE IS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE DID EARLIER THIS YEAR AS WELL FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND MISS MANNERS, LIKE I SAID, JUST TO IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COSTS HERE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS ABOUT 39,170. AND AGAIN, IN KIND OF CONJUNCTION TO COUNCILMAN ALTMAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE ACTUARIES AND STUFF ALONG THOSE LINES, THE IMPACT ON THIS HERE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUARIES ARE ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT, AGAIN, PROBABLY WITHIN 1 TO 2 YEARS. YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY FOR CHIEF COACH, AND THERE'LL BE RETIREMENTS FROM THAT THAT END AS SOME OF THE OFFICERS ARE AGING OUT HERE, BUT THAT THAT AMOUNT, 39,000 WILL BE PROBABLY BE REDUCED TO ABOUT 22,000 IN WITHIN ABOUT 1 TO 2 YEARS. AND AGAIN, FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LONGEVITY OF THAT OTHER OFFICERS THAT WILL PROBABLY LAST ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AND THEN KIND OF BE WELL, KIND OF AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO AGAIN, THERE'S GOING TO BE EVEN A REDUCTION COMING WITH THIS CHANGE FROM THE INITIAL IMPACT. THANK YOU. MISS MAN'S. HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON SECOND READING. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND SIMPLIFYING AND MAKING CALCULATIONS EASIER AND GIVING EVERYONE THE SAME PATH AS LAUDABLE THING. SECOND. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I I. THAT'S FIVE NOTHING BUSINESS ITEMS 
          [10.a) Recommendation of Cultural Event: The Polar Express Experience]
RECOMMENDATION FOR OF THE CULTURE AFFAIRS OF POLAR EXPRESS EXPERIENCE. YES. THIS AGENDA ITEM RELATES TO A REQUEST A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT AND EXPERIENCE, WHICH WILL BE HOSTED AT THE RICHEY SUNCOAST THEATER. AND 
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MISS FAGGART WILL TELL US ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER MANS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. TONIGHT IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR $2,600 IN FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE POLAR EXPRESS EXPERIENCE, A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT AND HOLIDAY PROGRAM PROPOSED BY THE RICHEY SUNCOAST THEATER. THE PROPOSAL WAS INTRODUCED BY CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEMBER SUSIE SACHS AT THE COMMITTEE'S OCTOBER 21ST MEETING. AND AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR THIS EVENT LAST YEAR AND ITS SUCCESS, RESULTING IN STANDING ROOM ONLY PROMPTED THIS REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN ORDER TO OFTEN TO OFFER A ENCORE PERFORMANCE ON THE SAME DAY, THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE LOVED THIS IDEA. QUITE FRANKLY, IN ORDER TO OFFER MORE FAMILIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THIS SPECIAL COMMUNITY EVENT, WHICH I'LL MENTION IS FREE FOR EVERYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND. THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED COUNCIL CONSIDER FUNDING AND THIS REQUEST IN ENTIRETY. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MISS SACHS, WHO IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, RECUSED HERSELF FROM THE VOTE DUE TO HER ROLE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RICHEY SUNCOAST THEATER. IF YOU APPROVE IT, THE POLAR EXPRESS EXPERIENCE WILL TAKE PLACE ON NOVEMBER 27TH AT 2 P.M. AND ALSO AT 7 P.M. THERE IS CURRENTLY FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          AND ALSO, SUSIE SACHS IS HERE TONIGHT. IF YOU SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SUSIE SACHS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, RICHEY, SUNCOAST THEATER, 6237 GRAND BOULEVARD, NEW PORT RICHEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ON BEHALF OF RICHEY SUNCOAST THEATER, I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FUNDING ASSISTANCE FOR OUR UPCOMING POLAR EXPRESS EXPERIENCE. ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH, A FREE COMMUNITY EVENT DESIGNED TO BRING HOLIDAY JOY, ENTERTAINMENT AND FAMILY ENGAGEMENT TO LOCAL CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING SUCCESS LAST YEAR, WE HAVE ADDED A SECOND PERFORMANCE SO THAT THERE WILL BE A SHOWING AT BOTH TWO AND 7 P.M. THIS FESTIVE EVENT WILL PROVIDE CHILDREN WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE MAGIC OF A HOLIDAY SEASON THROUGH A REVERED HOLIDAY FILM, REFRESHMENTS, SMALL GIFTS AND A VISIT FROM SANTA CLAUS. DON'T TELL THEM THEY'RE COMING. OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE AND WELCOMING CELEBRATION THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FAMILIES, REGARDLESS OF FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS EVENT IS EXPECTED TO SERVE APPROXIMATELY 650 CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING A MEMORABLE HOLIDAY EXPERIENCE, THE EVENT PROMOTES COMMUNITY CONNECTION AND ENCOURAGES FAMILY INVOLVEMENT IN A POSITIVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY. 
          FUNDING FROM CITY COUNCIL WOULD HELP OFFSET THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH. EXCUSE ME, HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AND EVENT SET UP REFRESHMENTS AND TREATS FOR ATTENDEES. TAKE AWAY GIFTS FOR THE CHILDREN, ENTERTAINMENT AND PROGRAMING EXPENSES, EVENT MARKETING AND OUTREACH. WE ARE SEEKING A CONTRIBUTION OF $2,600 TO ENSURE THAT THIS EVENT REMAINS FREE AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PARTICIPANTS. RICHEY SUNCOAST THEATER HAS A LONG HISTORY OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL AND FAMILY ORIENTED PROGRAMING. WITH YOUR SUPPORT, WE CAN CONTINUE THAT MISSION BY CREATING A HOLIDAY EVENT THAT BRINGS SMILES, STRENGTHENS COMMUNITY BONDS, AND CREATES LASTING MEMORIES FOR OUR YOUNGEST RESIDENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS REQUEST. WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? IF PEOPLE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS LADY. YEAH. 
          COME ON. DONNA JENSEN 5922 WYOMING AVENUE. I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC THING TO HAPPEN FOR OUR YOUNG CHILDREN IN NEW PORT RICHEY. RECENTLY I WAS AT RICHEY ELEMENTARY WHERE I ATTENDED SCHOOL, AND MY CHILDREN ATTENDED SCHOOL AND I, WE HANDED OUT CANDY TO THE LITTLE KIDS. THERE WAS NOTHING MORE HEARTWARMING THAN TO SEE THE SMILES ON FACES OF LITTLE CHILDREN. SO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. I'LL BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. 
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I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. I MEAN, WHAT KID DOESN'T WANT TO SEE SANTA? THE SECOND THEY DO THE EVENT AND CHALLENGING YOURSELF TO DO BETTER THAN LAST TIME. AND CLEARLY YOU HAVE. AND FOR ADDING ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES TO ATTEND. I'M EXCITED FOR IT TO HAPPEN, MATT. LOOK FORWARD TO IT. I'LL BE CELEBRATING AN OLD MAN'S BIRTHDAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY III5 NOTHING. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL. RENEWAL 
          [10.b) Request for Approval of Renewal Agreement w/The Southern Group RE: Lobbying Services]
OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE SOUTHERN SOUTHERN GROUP. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE SOUTHERN GROUP HAS SERVED THE CITY FOR TWO YEARS AS OUR STATE LOBBYING SERVICE, PRINCIPALLY LED BY MIKE MOORE. AS A TEAM MANAGER, I. THE. THE AGENDA ITEM IS REQUESTING THAT YOU ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO ANOTHER TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE STATE LOBBYING SERVICES. THE CONTRACT THAT WAS DRAFTED INCLUDES TWO AUTOMATIC TWO YEAR RENEWAL PROVISIONS AS OPPORTUNITIES. THE SOUTHERN GROUP IS REQUESTING A $6,000 INCREASE THIS YEAR FOR THEIR FEES FOR THEIR LOBBYING SERVICES, THEIR PRIOR ANNUAL COST WAS $86,400. 
          IF YOU APPROVE THIS ITEM. THE COST WOULD BE $92,400 FOR THE YEAR. IN RESPECT TO OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, I. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY REPRESENTED THE CITY'S INTERESTS WELL. THEY SUCCESSFULLY ADVOCATED FOR FUNDING IN THE FORM OF LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE CITY, AND THEY PROVIDED UPDATES TO US ON LEGISLATIVE ISSUES IN A TIMELY FASHION. AND WITH THAT, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT YOU CONSIDER APPROVING THE CONTRACT. DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. MOVE FOR APPROVAL TO MAKER. YEAH. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MR. MOORE AND THEIR GROUP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, GOING TO TALLAHASSEE, ADVOCATING FOR PROJECTS AND LEGISLATION. AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BEEN JUST A VERY SMOOTH AND JUST GREAT EXPERIENCE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE AMOUNT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT FOR WHAT THEY BROUGHT BACK TO US AND ENSURED AND GOT GOT PASSED FOR US, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT. SO WE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, GETTING A RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON THAT. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY PRODUCTS PROJECTS WE GOT BACK NOW, BUT I WANT TO SAY 4 OR 5. 
          THE TWO BIG ONES, ONE EACH YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. AND BUT LIKE I SAID, THE AMOUNTS FAR EXCEED WHAT WHAT WE PAY THEM. SO I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THEM. YEAH. TO MR. MURPHY'S POINT, OUR COUNCILMAN MURPHY'S POINT NINE $90,000 NOW FOR NOT ONE PERSON BUT A TEAM OF PEOPLE. IN RETURN, YOU GET $1 MILLION TOWARDS THE FIRE STATION. THAT'S THAT THAT'S THE TRADE OFF THERE. THE THIS THIS IS NOT THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE TO HAVE A FULL TIME PERSON IN TALLAHASSEE DOING THE WORK THAT. OTHERWISE WE CAN'T DO THAT. THE STAFF CAN'T DO. WE'RE HERE, WE'RE LOCAL. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORK DONE HERE. SO THIS PUTS US INTO A GOOD POSITION TO WHERE WE HAVE SOMEONE FULL TIME IN TALLAHASSEE AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, WORKING THE LEGISLATURE AND KEEPING THEM FOCUSED THAT, HEY, THE CITY ISSUES MATTER TOO. I THINK THIS WILL ESPECIALLY BE IMPORTANT THIS YEAR AND NEXT AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT, AS THE IMPACTS OF AMENDMENT THREE BECOME APPARENT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN SUPPORT WHAT WE DO HERE. WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEONE PUTTING THAT EAR PIECE UP TO OUR STATE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES. AND THE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE OF THIS PARTICULAR GROUP IS THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS OF, YOU KNOW, IN HIS TEAM, THE EXCUSE ME, THE TEAM AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT REPRESENTS THAT TEAM IS A FORMER ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM HERE. SO HE UNDERSTANDS OUR ISSUES UNIQUELY. SO HE'S IN THE BEST PLACE POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY NEGOTIATE ON OUR BEHALF, BUT BE ABLE TO CHIME IN AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ENRICHMENT OF THE POLICIES WE'RE TRYING TO GET PASSED. YES. I THINK JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY DOES HAVE, THROUGH ITS MEMBERSHIP IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, A VERY ACTIVE PROCESS. IN FACT, SOME OF YOU WON AWARDS LAST YEAR FOR YOUR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND DAYS. AND SO HAVING OUR OWN SORT OF GUIDE, I GUESS, TO HELP TO CONNECT US TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE KEY TO OUR 
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REQUESTS IS IMPORTANT THING. ALSO, WE HAD HERE AT ONE POINT, CLIFF SHEPHERD, WHO WAS AN ATTORNEY FOR THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, WHO RECENTLY RETIRED AND INDICATED AT HIS CONFERENCE THAT HE WAS STILL WORKING FOR THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION. SO WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIONS AND CONTACTS AND OUR OUR COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT IN ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. I THINK WE'RE WELL SEEDED TO CONTINUE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND I ALSO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE FIRST BIT OF CONGRATULATIONS TO THOSE WHO GOT REELECTED AND ELECTED AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. THIS AGREEMENT POINTS TOWARDS OUR STATE LEGISLATURE, BUT ALSO, CONGRESSMAN MIKE BILIRAKIS JUST GOT REELECTED, AND THE CONGRESSMAN HAS MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT WANTING TO SUPPORT AND HELP US. SO THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE OF MAYBE THE THE WORK THAT WE GET. BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR OWN MIDST WHO, WHO MAINTAIN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. I KNOW BEV STEVENSON IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT THAT THEY CALL ON. SO WITH SOME LUCK, WE'LL GET SUPPORT ALL AROUND AND SEE THE CITY CONTINUE TO GROW. SO. BUT HE'S VERY HELPFUL AND I, I AGREE, AND IF I CAN REAL QUICK, I WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD. I SAID 90,000. I SHOULD HAVE SAID 92,000 AND $400. AND IN THAT RESPECT, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER HAS HAS LET ME KNOW THAT I HAVE MISSPOKE. AND THAT'S THE TOTAL FOR TWO YEARS OF REPRESENTATION. THE ANNUAL FEE IS ACTUALLY $46,200. THANK YOU. NO, I, I AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE ALL SET UP HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WAS MY FIRST YEAR GOING UP FOR MY LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND WHAT I KIND OF SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'M THE NEW GUY HERE IS JUST HOW WE WERE TREATED THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU COULD, YOU COULD PICK ANY LOBBYING GROUP YOU WANT. BUT I THINK WHAT SPEAKS MORE TO IS, IS THE SOUTHERN GROUP IS JUST THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE HILL. THERE IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO US. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SITTING IN A WAITING ROOM WAITING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR MEETING SET, WE GET IN, WE MEET, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSIONS. AND I THINK THAT KIND OF SPEAKS MORE VOLUMES TO THE SOUTHERN GROUP OF WHAT THEY GIVE US IN THAT $46,000 INCREMENT PER YEAR. I THINK THAT BODES VERY WELL TO WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY IN APPROPRIATIONS. SO THANK YOU. I JUST THINK THE SOUTHERN GROUP DOES A GREAT JOB AT COMMUNICATING WITH US AND AND KEEPING US INFORMED. SO WHETHER WE'RE IN TALLAHASSEE, WE'RE SITTING HERE, THEY KEEP US INFORMED. AND THAT'S WHAT I APPRECIATE THE MOST. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. CONSIDERATION OF 
          [10.c) Consideration of Cancelling the December 1, 2026 Regular Meeting]
CANCELING THE DECEMBER 1ST, 2026 REGULAR MEETING. THIS AGENDA ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN ALTMAN, AND HE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THIS ITEM DURING THE COMMUNICATIONS PORTION OF YOUR AGENDA AT YOUR. SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 MEETING, AND IT IS COMPLETELY AT YOUR DISCRETION TO CANCEL THE MEETING. SHOULD IT BE THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL TO DO SO? AND I BELIEVE, AS I RECALL, THE REASONING FOR CANCELING THE MEETING WAS RELATED TO THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY OCCURRING OVER THE PREVIOUS WEEKEND. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WILL COME FORWARD. BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TAKING THAT DAY OFF. SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION AND WE CAN DISCUSS UNDER THE MOTION. SECOND. YEAH, JUST THE THE WORK THAT'S INVOLVED IN PUTTING AN AGENDA TOGETHER, GETTING IT OUT, HAVING EVERYBODY DO THE AGENDA. I'VE, I'VE NEVER BEEN ONE THAT HAS TO HAVE IT A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I KNOW IT'S HELPFUL FOR THOSE TO GET IT OUT EARLY. 
          SO IN ORDER TO GET AN AGENDA OUT. AND HAVE US MEET, THAT WOULD BE THE ALL OF THAT WORK PRODUCT THAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE CITY TAKES THE TWO DAYS OFF FOR THANKSGIVING. IT'S A THREE DAY WORK WEEK. THERE'S ALWAYS REGULAR WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE. THERE'S ALSO REQUIREMENTS TO PREPARE FOR YEAR END. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF JANUARY THINGS COMING UP. I JUST THINK ADMINISTRATIVELY, IF IF YOU DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR IT, THAT IT'S A IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY 
          [01:00:02]
FOR FOLKS TO GET CAUGHT UP AND BE PREPARED AND GET US A GOOD AGENDA FOR THAT FINAL ONE OF THE YEAR. JUST FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO THE SECOND. YEAH, IT'S CONSCIOUS OF THE EMPLOYEES, CONSCIOUS OF THE PROCESS. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. UNLESS IF STAFF HAS ANY REASON TO THINK THAT IT PUTS A BURDEN ON A FUTURE MEETING, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULD. WELL, I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER IF I MEAN, TO ME. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A REASON THAT THEY NEED THE TIME AND WE NEED TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POSTPONE THAT MEETING OR CANCEL THAT MEETING. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE ADEQUATE TIME TO PREPARE, THEN YES. BUT IF THEY DO, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO GET DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. THERE ARE AND AND SO IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN JONAS'S COMMENTS, IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR US TO GET A PACKET OUT. AND IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME AND TO PREPARE FOR A SECOND MEETING, TYPICALLY IN DECEMBER, THE AGENDAS ARE A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER ANYWAY. AND SO IF WE CHOSE TO CANCEL THE MEETING AND DEFER THE ITEMS TO THE SECOND MEETING OF DECEMBER, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CAUSE ANY ANY PROBLEM FOR US AT. I'M FINE WITH IT. HEY EVERYBODY. IT'S ANOTHER DAY IN MY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ACT WITH READ SPEED FLORIDA MOVE TO APPROVE. OH, SORRY. LET ME GIVE YOU A CHANCE. WELL, WE SECOND. I SAID MY MOTION SO THAT PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO HEAR THE AGENDA ITEM. I'LL WITHDRAW MY SECOND. OKAY. YOU GUYS GO WITH THE AMENDMENT OF THE FIVE YEAR 
          [10.d) First Amendment to the Professional Services Agreement w/Red Speed Florida LLC ]
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH READ SPEED RELATES TO BOTH OUR. RED LIGHT CAMERA TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAM AND ALSO THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED PHOTO ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. THE REASON THAT WE ARE BRINGING THIS BEFORE YOU IS BECAUSE WE WERE RECOMMENDING THAT FLOCK SAFETY TECHNOLOGY NOT BE EMPLOYED IN EITHER SYSTEM, THAT RESULTS WOULD RESULT IN A SAVINGS TO THE CITY OF $150 MONTHLY PER CAMERA, WHICH AGGREGATES INTO $9,000 FOR THE FIVE CAMERAS THAT ARE POSITIONED ON US HIGHWAY 19. AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, AND CHIEF COACHMAN WILL CAN RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE RELATED TO THE FLOCK SAFETY TECHNOLOGY OR THE ADVANCED LICENSE PLATE READERS, WHICH WILL NOT BE ATTACHED TO ANY OF OUR CAMERAS. MOVE TO APPROVE. OH, EXCUSE ME, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? IT'S A RED LIGHT ON YOU, BUDDY. GET YOUR CHECKBOOK OUT. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. SO MAYBE YOU COULD KIND OF. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO BE LACKING FOR YOU TO BE SAVING SOMETHING? IT SOUNDS LIKE A IS IT A REDUCED PACKAGE TO THE CAMERAS, OR ARE YOU NOT GOING TO GET THE INFORMATION IF A CAR RUNS A RED LIGHT OR SOMETHING? I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IT DIDN'T READ THE FLOCK PROGRAM. I'M SORRY. IT'S BASICALLY GETTING RID OF THE FLOCK PROGRAM. WELL, THEN WE'RE NOT. WE DON'T. WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. TALK TO THE CHIEF AFTERWARDS ABOUT THE FLOCK PROGRAM. ONCE AGAIN, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOME OR OTHER PEOPLE. UNDERSTAND THE FLOCK IS A BRAND NAME FOR A TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY. ONE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THEY HAVE IS. BUT THE CAMERAS ARE STAYING. THE CAMERAS WILL BE STAYING. THEY'RE JUST REMOVING A MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS YOU TO READ THE CAMERA AND PUT IT IN A SYSTEM FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. 
          OKAY. I WAS JUST CONCERNED THAT THE CAMERAS WERE GOING, NO, SIR, AND I'M JUST ONE FEATURE. OKAY. 
          BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, ADDING ALSO AXON TECHNOLOGIES OR ANY OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT COULD BE USED FOR ALPR. NO, THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THIS. THE THE THE ALPR WILL STILL BE USED IN THE PATROL CARS. 
          CORRECT, CHIEF. SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE READ SPEED AT THIS TIME. RIGHT. WHICH IS WHAT I'M WHICH I'M WHICH IS WHAT THIS RECOMMENDATION IS. LET ME CLARIFY MY MY MOTION TO MOVE TO 
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IN THE CASE OF RED LIGHT TECHNOLOGY IS OF ALPR FROM ANY BRAND. BECAUSE THE WAY THE RECOMMENDATION IS IT SAYS FLOCK. THERE'S OTHER COMPANIES THAT USE ALPR SYSTEMS. SO WE'RE BOUND BY STATE LAW FROM USING ANY ALPR TECHNOLOGY ON STATE ROADWAYS. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ALPR SYSTEMS. IS THAT WHAT THIS THING SAYS? THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH RED SPEED. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED A MOTION FOR. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. IF THERE'S SOME OTHER ASPECT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL. BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS JUST TO AMEND THE RED SPEED AGREEMENT SO THAT WE REMOVE THE FLOCK TECHNOLOGY FROM ALL OF THOSE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. I GOT TO SEE THE WELL, I DON'T HAVE A MOTION THEN. YEAH, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. AS STATED. I'LL SECOND. DO WE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND? NO, NO. NO I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD. PETE. YEAH. I'M I'M, I'M HANGING IN THERE. SO IN A SUBSEQUENT ITEM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE MORE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. CORRECT. IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THREE DIFFERENT THREE NEW CAMERAS AT TWO INTERSECTIONS. UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. THE SAME. SO THIS AGREEMENT WE'RE IMPACTING WILL THEN AFFECT THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL CAMERAS. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I 
          [10.e) Approval of Three (3) Additional Red Light Traffic Safety Program Cameras Along U.S. 19 Corridor ]
THAT'S FIVE NOTHING APPROVAL OF THREE ADDITIONAL RED LIGHT TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAM CAMERAS ALONG US 19 CORRIDOR. I'M CHIEF COACH AND WILL PRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM. AND HE HAS PREPARED A POWERPOINT FOR YOU IN THAT RESPECT. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THE REQUEST, AS YOU KNOW, IS TO GET APPROVAL FOR THREE ADDITIONAL RED LIGHT CAMERAS FOR OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAM ON 192 WILL BE ON 19 NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND AT MAIN STREET, AND ONE WILL BE ON TROUBLE CREEK ROAD OR CORRECTION US 19 SOUTHBOUND AT TROUBLE CREEK ROAD. I'M GOING TO KIND OF DO THIS SIMULTANEOUSLY. I WANT TO SHOW A POWERPOINT. ALSO ADDRESS THE MEMO. THAT'S A COVER MEMO THAT'S IN YOUR BACKUP. BEFORE I GET TO THE FIRST SLIDE, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU A TRAFFIC CRASH ON US 19 INVOLVING A RED LIGHT VIOLATION. AND YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, THE CRASH DYNAMICS WITH INTERSECTION ACCIDENTS, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT OCCUPANT KINEMATICS, WE VEHICLE SIDE STRUCTURE, ALL THE ENERGY TRANSFER. SO USUALLY WHEN THESE ACCIDENTS OCCUR AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS PLAY OUT, IT'S ALWAYS THE PERSON THAT'S LAWFULLY WITHIN THE INTERSECTION THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT ON THE LOSING END OF THAT ACCIDENT. SO THERE WERE NO FATALITIES IN THIS TRAFFIC CRASH, WHICH WAS WE WERE VERY LUCKY ON THIS ONE. THERE WERE SERIOUS INJURIES, BUT THERE WERE NO FATALITIES. SO I'LL PLAY IT OUT. 
          THIS IS A BAD VIOLATION. YOU SEE ALL THAT ENERGY TRANSFER, YOU SEE ALL THAT CRASH, YOU SEE ALL THAT. BASICALLY WE CALL IT TRAFFIC RECONSTRUCTION. THE IMPACT IS IMMENSE IN THIS ACCIDENT. LOT OF ENERGY TRANSFER. THE DRIVER THAT WAS LAWFULLY WITHIN THE INTERSECTION WAS VERY SERIOUSLY INJURED IN THIS ACCIDENT, HAPPENED IN MAY OF 2026 AT 9:35 P.M. AND IT WAS AT 19 NORTHBOUND AT TROUBLE CREEK ROAD. SO AGAIN, WE WE HAVE THESE PROGRAMS OUT THERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME STATISTICS THROUGH THIS POWERPOINT TO PROMOTE TRAFFIC SAFETY IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO OUT THERE. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE CAMERAS AND HERE THEY ARE ON US. 19 THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED APPLIES TO THESE CAMERAS. AND WE CAN BUY THAT CONTRACT, ADD UP TO AN ADDITIONAL TEN CAMERAS AT THE SAME PRICE AND WILL NOT HAVE ALPR TECHNOLOGY OR FLOC INTEGRATED INTO THOSE CAMERAS EACH YEAR. NOW, THESE STATS CHANGE A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR. 
          APPROXIMATELY 30 MILLION VEHICLES TRAVEL ON US 19 IN OUR CITY. I'VE SEEN STATS AROUND 29 MILLION TO 34 MILLION. SO YOU GET THE POINT. THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLES ON THIS ROADWAY. THE INTERSECTIONS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS ASPECTS OF THIS ROADWAY. IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD SIX FATAL CRASHES, 27 SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES, 212 INJURY CRASHES ON US 19 BY FAR. 
          US 19 IS OUR MOST DANGEROUS HIGHWAY, AS IS OBVIOUS CITY, NEW PORT RICHEY HAS BEEN 
          [01:10:02]
UTILIZING RED LIGHT CAMERAS SINCE JUNE OF 2011. SINCE JUNE OF 2011, WE HAVE REVIEWED ALMOST 300,000 VIOLATION EVENTS AND HAVE ISSUED 208,046 VIOLATIONS. CITY NEW PORT RICHEY, AS YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY HAS FIVE ACTIVE RED LIGHT CAMERA ENFORCEMENT DEVICES DEPLOYED, FOUR OF WHICH ARE ON US 19. AND I WANT TO COMMENT STRATEGICALLY, A LOT OF THESE A LOT OF THESE ARE SOUTH ON 19 ON OUR CITY, BUT US 19 AND MAIN STREET, THERE'S NO COVERAGE EXCEPT FOR WESTBOUND TRAFFIC. SO THESE ARE ALL GOING TO TIE IN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS POWERPOINT. SO THIS RIGHT HERE, IF I, IF I ONLY HAVE ONE BULLET POINT THAT I COULD PRESENT TO YOU IN THIS POWERPOINT, THIS WOULD BE THE HIGHLIGHT REEL RIGHT HERE. AS YOUR POLICE CHIEF, THIS IS COMPELLING. SINCE JUNE 2011, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE VIOLATIONS BY AS MUCH AS 52% THROUGH AWARENESS AND COMPLIANCE. SO THINK ABOUT THAT 52% REDUCTION. WHAT IS THAT TELLING US THAT'S TELLING US THAT PEOPLE NOW ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR INTERSECTIONS. 
          THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING THESE RED LIGHTS. AND COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU, I COULD PUT FORTH AN ARGUMENT, WE ARE SAVING LIVES BY HAVING THESE CAMERAS. THIS IS A COMPELLING STATISTIC. IT'S THE ONLY ONE I WOULD HAVE IF I COULD, IF I COULD DO THIS POWERPOINT WITH JUST ONE BULLET .2525 IS ANOTHER GOOD YEAR WAS OUR LOWEST YEAR IN EVENT REVIEWS AND VIOLATIONS, ISSUED WITH 17,860 REVIEWS AND 8264 VIOLATIONS ISSUED. AGAIN, GOING DOWN THESE YEARS COULD FLUCTUATE, BUT WE LIKE TO SEE THESE EVENTS GOING DOWN. WE WANT TO SEE DRIVER BEHAVIOR BEING MODIFIED ON OUR MOST DANGEROUS HIGHWAY. WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE ONE RED LIGHT CAMERA FOR SOUTHBOUND US 19 AND THREE FOR NORTHBOUND ON US 19 US 19 NORTHBOUND AT TROUBLE CREEK AND US 19 SOUTHBOUND AT GULF ROAD EXPERIENCED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF VIOLATIONS PER YEAR. 
          INTERESTING. WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD THREE MORE CAMERA ENFORCEMENT DEVICES TO OTHER LOCATIONS TO ACHIEVE OUR MISSION AND GOAL. TO IMPROVE RED LIGHT COMPLIANCE. ALL LOCATIONS LISTED BELOW ARE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY, SO US 19 SOUTHBOUND TO TROUBLE CREEK ROAD. THAT INTERSECTION IS DANGEROUS. THAT INTERSECTION IS HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AS AS MANY OF THEM ARE ON US 19 BUT WE HAVE NO COVERAGE GOING SOUTHBOUND AT THAT LOCATION. 
          AND OF COURSE, I BRING YOU TO US 19 AND MAIN STREET. VERY SADLY, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WHAT YOU SAW ON THAT VIDEO IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED AT 19 AND MAIN. OH, THIS PERSON DIDN'T WALK AWAY. VEHICLE TRAVELING NORTHBOUND RAN A RED LIGHT, WHAT WE CALL RIGHT ANGLE CRASH. YOU WOULD KNOW IT AS A T-BONE OR A BROADSIDE. THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS IN THE INTERSECTION WAS KILLED. THAT ACCIDENT PLAYED OUT VERY TERRIBLY. SO MAIN STREET FOR US IS VERY IMPORTANT, BOTH SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL TROUBLE CREEK ROAD OR 19 SOUTHBOUND AT TROUBLE CREEK ROAD AND TWO ON US 19, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND LANES. AND THAT'S THE END OF THAT SLIDE. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE STATISTICS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CRASH DYNAMICS. YOU SEE THIS PLAY OUT 19 BY FAR IS OUR MOST DANGEROUS ROADWAY. I'VE WORKED SO MANY OF THESE CRASHES IN MY CAREER. AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY HEARTBREAKING WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO THEM AND YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE SIMPLY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO A RED LIGHT. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU IS TO APPROVE AN ADDITIONAL THREE RED LIGHT CAMERAS AS PRESENTED IN YOUR COVER MEMO AND IN THIS POWERPOINT. AND AGAIN, THIS CONTRACT THAT YOU APPROVE, WE CAN DO UP TO TEN AT THAT SAME PRICING. THEY WILL NOT HAVE FLOC OR ALPR TECHNOLOGY. WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT ON ALL STATE ROADWAYS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT APPROVAL. WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL RED LIGHT CAMERA TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAM FUNDS WITHIN THE FY 2027 POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO COVER THIS. 
          SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE FRONT ROW. I THINK THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED. I HAD READ THE AGENDA AND I WAS I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. MY, MY PREVIOUS MY MAIL ROUTE WAS BETWEEN MAIN STREET AND GULF DRIVE ON US 19 BEFORE THERE WERE CAMERAS. NOW THERE ARE CAMERAS AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS A MARKED DIFFERENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT FINE. THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THAT. THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THAT TICKET IN THE MAIL. IT'S IT'S STILL BAD. DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S STILL BAD. I SEE IT ALL THE TIME, BUT IT DOES HELP. AND I'VE ARGUED THIS WITH FRIENDS OF MINE BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE I AM NOT POPULAR WITH OVER THIS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE THEY THEY. 
          I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM INVASION OF PRIVACY TO EVERYTHING ELSE. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT IT IT WORKS. IT DOES SAVE LIVES. I DON'T CARE WHAT IT COSTS, IT'S WELL WORTH IT. 
          [01:15:05]
PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT'S EFFECTIVE AS A CITIZEN. I TELL YOU WHAT, PUT MY MONEY TO USE THAT WAY. I'M HAPPY WITH IT. HI, I'M JUDY THOMAS, 6014 LAFAYETTE STREET. I HAD THE HONOR OF BEING ON COUNCIL FOR TEN YEARS FOR THE CITY. AND ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT SITUATIONS THAT WE HAD TO VOTE ON WAS RED, RED CAMERAS, RED LIGHT CAMERAS, AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL CONVERSATIONS I EVER HAD WAS, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER HER NAME, BUT WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THIS, SPOKE TO THE WOMAN WHO WAS PUSHING FOR RED LIGHT CAMERAS, AND IT WAS BECAUSE HER HUSBAND AND HER SON WERE KILLED BY JUST DASHING OUT FOR GROCERIES ONE DAY, AND SOMEONE RAN A RED LIGHT, AND THOSE TWO FOLKS DID NOT COME BACK HOME. AND I KNOW WE TOOK A LOT OF FLACK BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT IT WAS A MONEY GRAB. THAT WAS THE BIG DEAL. AND THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU CAN PUT ON FOR SAVING LIFE. SO I'M GLAD THAT WE HUNG TOUGH ON THIS AND THAT. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE US DOING THIS WITH THE WITH THE RED LIGHT CAMERA, SO GO FOR IT. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. NO, I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I THINK THE POWERPOINT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. AND I APPRECIATE THE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND GIVING US THE STATISTICS. SO THANK YOU. THE SECOND YEAH, JUST TO SAY, I STARTED OFF YEARS AGO ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS, WHERE I THOUGHT RED LIGHT CAMERAS WERE A MONEY GRAB. I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A WAY FOR THE CITY TO FOR CITIES, NOT THIS CITY. ALL CITIES TO NICKEL AND DIME RESIDENTS. BUT THE DATA SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. AND I'M I'VE COME AROUND TO THE ISSUE PREDOMINANTLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VIOLATIONS VERSUS THE REVIEWS, NOBODY'S NICKEL AND DIMING PEOPLE. IF YOU IF IF IT IS NOT A TRUE VIOLATION, YOU'RE NOT BEING CHARGED. IF YOU RAN THE LIGHT, IF YOU WENT OVER THE LINE, IF YOU'RE EXHIBITING HABITS THAT SUGGEST THAT YOU CANNOT STOP AT AN INTERSECTION, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE RECEIVING THE TICKET. AND I'LL BE UP FRONT WITH YOU. 
          I'VE RECEIVED ONE IN MY IN MY LIFE AS A DRIVER AND I WAS IN THE WRONG. AND NOW WHEN I GO TO THAT INTERSECTION, I'M EXTRA CAUTIOUS. YOU DRIVE FOR YEARS. WE ALL GET COMPLACENT. WE HAVE CERTAIN HABITS. THERE'S CERTAIN. YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE A HUGE SIGN RIGHT THERE. THERE ARE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO BE STARING AT THE SIGN INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE ROAD. AND SO THESE ARE MADE MONEY SPEAKS AND THESE ARE MADE TO MAKE US BREAK BAD HABITS. 
          THEY WORK. THEY'RE EFFECTIVE 52% REDUCTION. AND IT'S, IT'S, I'M NOT GOING TO WAIVE THE WHOLE IT SAVES LIVES ARGUMENT. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT IT LIKE I BREAK MORE AT THE INTERSECTION I GOT THE TICKET AT. EVEN IF IT'S GREEN, I SLOW DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT WORKS. SO THEY'RE AN EFFECTIVE PROGRAM. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY WANT TO EXPAND IT. I DO HAVE A COUPLE. WE DID. WE DIDN'T CODIFY THROUGH RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING WITH A STATE BAN. SO I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS IN US SAYING THAT BY DOING WHAT WE DID WITH THE CONTRACT, THAT THAT SOMEHOW MEANS FLOCK HAS GONE AWAY. I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SOME HESITATION IF YOU SAW THE HESITATION ON MY PART IN THE FIRST VOTE. WE'RE JUST NOW FOR THIS AGREEMENT, FOR THE AGREEMENT WE JUST VOTED ON PRIOR TAKING IT OUT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T COME BACK IN IF THE STATE TURNS AROUND AND DOES SOMETHING. SO IT IS NO BY BY NO MEANS A BAN OF FLOCK. IT'S BY NO MEANS A CODIFIED REMOVAL. IT'S JUST WITH THIS SPECIFIC COMPANY, WE'RE NOT USING FLOCK AND ALPR TECHNOLOGY. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO MAKE. BUT YES, EXPANDING THE PROGRAM DEFINITELY WORTHWHILE. 
          YEAH. I JUST HAVE A MEMORY AS WELL OF SOME OF THE EARLY. ENTRY OF THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, WHICH INCLUDED A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING CHARGED WITH A CALIFORNIA RIGHT TURN. THAT STOPPED. NOW, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STOP THEM GOING THROUGH THE RED LIGHTS PRIMARILY. AND THEN THE SECOND PART WAS THE TIMING OF THE YELLOW LIGHT BEFORE IT TURNED RED. THAT WAS A BIT SHORT IN THE EARLIER DAYS, AND I THINK YOU FLASHED IT UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT I DIDN'T STICK IT IN MY MEMORY. BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF SECONDS, NINE SECONDS, NINE SECONDS. UNACCEPTABLE. NINE SECONDS OF YELLOW. NO, NINE SECONDS OF RED. HOW LONG IS THE YELLOW? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY'RE SO 4.6, 4.8. SO YOU KNOW, THE THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE TRIED TO INTRODUCE AND I KNOW SOME SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE THIS IS WAS MY RED LIGHT CAMERA BILL WAS TO PORT RICHEY, BUT IT WAS COMING DOWN 19 WITH A SOLID TRAFFIC AND A LARGE PUBLIX OR WALMART TRUCK IN FRONT OF ME. THERE'S A POINT 
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SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE FOLLOWING A LARGE VEHICLE AND YOU FIND YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CAMERA AT THE FRONT OF MY CAR WAS JUST SLIGHTLY OVER THE LINE. SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME JURISDICTIONS OR SOME LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE IF YOU ARE ONLY EKED YOURSELF ACROSS, THAT'S NOT THE ACCIDENT YOU SHOWED ME. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE WARNED ABOUT IT, BUT HAVING A $200 CHARGE WHEN YOU'RE FOLLOWING BEHIND SOMEBODY IN A HUGE TRAFFIC ZONE, THAT'S WHERE THOSE SORT OF CONCEPTS COME OUT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE OR IF IT'S SOMETHING LEGISLATIVE COULD ALLOW, BUT I THINK A TICKET GETS ISSUED. BUT IT SEEMS WE HAVE TO CHARGE THAT $200 OR 200, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THAT GETS SHARED WITH THE STATE AND THE THE VENDOR WAS GETTING THAT SHARE AS WELL. AND THEN WE GOT WHAT WAS $60 OR $65, SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT OF THAT $200 TICKET. SO PART OF THE ARGUMENT IS $140, LEAVES THE CITY, LEAVES THE GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND $60 COMES BACK IN. IF SOMEONE IS BARELY CROSSING THE LINE, THAT'S KIND OF A YOSEMITE SAM MOMENT FOR WHOEVER GOT CAUGHT THINKING THEY COULD GET THROUGH SOMEONE PUSHING THEM FROM BEHIND. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT ACCIDENT OCCURRED. YOU INDICATED IT WAS NINE SECONDS RED ON THE RED ON THAT ACCIDENT. ACCIDENT YOU SHOWED ME. SO A COURT, YOU KNOW, A HALF A SECOND OR THE CAR JUST HAVING ITS NOSE ACROSS TO ME IS A BIT PICKY. AND IF THERE WAS SUCH A THING AS A WARNING OR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE, HEY, YOU CROSS A RED LIGHT. I DON'T THINK THAT DESERVES A $200 TICKET. I PAID IT, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE WITH THAT KIND OF HEAVY TRAFFIC. IF YOU SIT ON HIGHWAY 19 RIGHT NOW, ANYTIME BETWEEN 4:00 AND SIX, I'LL GUARANTEE YOU YOU MAY WAIT A LIGHT OR TWO TO GET THROUGH. AND IF YOU'RE BEHIND A BIG TRUCK, YOU'RE GOING. IF IT'S GOING, I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY THAT WILL STOP TO WAIT FOR THE WHOLE TRUCK TO GET THROUGH, TO SEE THE RED LIGHT. JUST TO A SIDE NOTE. BUT SOMEBODY THAT EVERYBODY'S WRITING, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S RIGHT ON TOP OF IT. BUT IN ANY CASE, I'LL VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE OF YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP AN EAR OUT. IF THERE'S EVER SUCH A THING AS THE ABILITY FOR US TO TAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME LOOK AT. BECAUSE WHAT IN PORT RICHEY, IT WAS JUST THE VERY FRONT OF THE BUMPER THAT HAD CROSSED THAT YELLOW LINE. AND IT WAS 200, IF I MAY, FOR THE RECORD, THEY SEND US THE EVENT AND WE HAVE TRAINED POLICE OFFICERS THAT I WATCH THESE THINGS WE'RE CITING. CLEARLY THEY'RE VIOLATING THE RED LIGHT. THE CAR IS WAY BEHIND THE WHITE BALL, AND THAT LIGHT IS RED. SO WE'RE VERY FAIR ABOUT IT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER LOST A CASE BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE YET. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. SO TO YOUR POINT THANK YOU. I GUESS WE CAN'T VOUCH FOR PORT RICHEY, SO WE YELL AT THEM. I CAN GIVE TESTIMONY IF THIS HAS COME UP, BECAUSE IT WASN'T A WEEK AGO. AND I'M DRIVING SOUTH DOWN 19 AND GOING THROUGH MAIN STREET. THE LIGHT TURNED YELLOW AND THE PASSENGERS WITH ME ARE LIKE, OH, YOU CAN MAKE IT, YOU CAN MAKE IT. AND I WAS LIKE, OH NO. I SAID, I'M NOT GETTING A TICKET. NO WAY. YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST FUNNY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, BUT SITTING ON THE MPO, THEY DO THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COUNTY. THIS STATISTICS FOR INJURIES AND FATALITIES. AND AS YOU AS YOU KNOW US 19 IS JUST LIT UP WITH RED. ALL THE ALL THE INTERSECTIONS US THE STATE DOT IS GOT A PROGRAM NOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING ALL THE WAY UP 19 AND TRYING TO MAKE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE ALL THE WAY UP. AND NEW PORT RICHEY IS DOING THEIR PART, HELPING WITH THAT SAFETY STATISTIC, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE IN OUR AREA. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM FROM WHAT THEY POLL. AND SO I KNOW, I KNOW IT WORKS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS RIGHT NOW IS MIDSPAN CROSSINGS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEDESTRIANS THAT CROSS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO A CROSSWALK, BUT THEY'RE THERE IN BETWEEN THE LIGHTS SO THAT THEY CAN CROSS SAFELY. SO I KNOW THEY'RE FOCUSING ON THAT, THAT PART OF IT TOO. SO IT, IT'S TAKEN FOREVER AND IT TAKES TIME. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING ON IT AND WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN HERE. AND WE'VE UTILIZED THOSE GRANTS THROUGH IPM TO ACTUALLY PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ON 19 AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE DO A LOT OF THAT WORK. EVERYBODY. YES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M A LOCAL AND I AVOID 19 EXCEPT WHEN I HAVE TO GO TO SOUTHGATE BECAUSE I EAT 
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FOOD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I, I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. POLICE DEPARTMENT 
          [10.f) Police Department - Division #67: Position Reclassification and Additional Personnel Authorization ]
DIVISION 67. POSITION. RECLASSIFICATION. ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL. AUTHORIZATION. CHIEF. 
          COACHMAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO DO THE FOLLOWING STAFFING MODIFICATIONS WITHIN OUR SPECIAL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. WE CALL IT JUST DIVISION 67. AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT REVIEW ALL THE RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS BEHIND IT. SO WITH THE ADVENT OF THE SCHOOL PROGRAM COMING ON BOARD AND THE RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM, THIS WHOLE DIVISION NEEDS TO BE REORGANIZED. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO MEET ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 85TH PERCENTILE ON OUR SPEED STUDIES IN A SCHOOL ZONE WITH THE YELLOW FLASHING LIGHT BEING 26 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DRIVER MODIFICATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO. AND THE EXPERIENCE STATEWIDE SHOWS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT AT FIRST. AND THEN WE THEN WE TAMP IT DOWN 75%, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS ONE, A POSITION RECLASSIFICATION. ONE RECLASSIFY THE EXISTING TRAFFIC INFRACTION ENFORCEMENT TECHNICIAN POSITION, GRADE 105 TO A TRAFFIC INFRACTION ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR POSITION GRADE 113. THIS IS A MID-LEVEL SUPERVISOR THAT'S GOING TO WORK WITH THE TRAFFIC INFRACTION OFFICERS THAT REVIEW ALL THE EVENTS AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE SHOULD DESERVE TO GET A RED LIGHT VIOLATION OR A SPEEDING VIOLATION, A SCHOOL ZONE. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AUTHORIZATION FOR YOU TO AUTHORIZE ONE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC INFRACTION ENFORCEMENT TECHNICIAN POSITION, GRADE 105. 
          THERE'S ALSO A CORRESPONDING BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT ALLOCATES FUNDS FOR THESE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE ALSO ASKING YOU TO APPROVE. AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT DIVISION 67. WE NEED TO RAMP UP THIS DIVISION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF INCIDENTS COMING OUR WAY WITH THE NEW SCHOOL ZONE PROGRAM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL RED LIGHT CAMERAS. WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT OUR FIRST YEAR IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY BUSY WITH THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, AND THAT'S WHY WE ALSO TRAINED IN ADDITIONAL IN-HOUSE PERSON TO HELP SUPPORT THAT DIVISION. SO WE CAN KIND OF GET A GAUGE ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES ON A PROJECT, YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW UNTIL THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD HOW BAD IT'S GOING TO BE. BUT WE ARE PREPARED. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE CITY MANAGER'S IDEA TO HAVE ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS TRAINED. BUT YES, WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON TRAINED THAT CAN JUMP IN AND HELP US OUT IF IT GETS BAD. SO AGAIN, THESE THESE STAFFING MODIFICATIONS WILL ESTABLISH DEDICATED SUPERVISORY OVERSIGHT ACCOMMODATION, INCREASED ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONAL WORKLOAD. ENSURE THE EFFECTIVE ADMINISTRATION REGULATORY COMPLIANCE OF BOTH TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAMS. IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE POSITIONS WILL OCCUR AS OPERATIONALLY NECESSARY AND FISCALLY FEASIBLE BASED ON THE EXPANSION OF CAMERA LOCATIONS AND ASSOCIATED WORKLOADS. I KNOW COUNCILMAN BUTLER LIKE THIS. WE WILL NOT USE FLOC OR ALPR TECHNOLOGY ON ANY OF OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAMS. THOSE CAMERAS WILL NOT BE INSTALLED. THEY WILL NOT BE INTEGRATED WITH ANYTHING OPERATING OUT THERE. FOR THE RECORD, THE ONLY ALPR TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE FOR OFFICER SAFETY PURPOSES IN OUR IN-CAR CAMERAS, AND THAT'S JUST WITH THE OFFICERS DOING TRAFFIC STOPS. SO RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONAL AND STAFFING MODIFICATIONS FOR DIVISION 67. AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE REQUEST RECLASS OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC INFRACTION ENFORCEMENT TECHNICIAN POSITION FROM GRADE 105 TO A TRAFFIC INFRACTION ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR POSITION, GRADE 113 AUTHORIZATION OF ONE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC INFRACTION ENFORCEMENT TECHNICIAN POSITION GRADE 105 APPROVAL OF THE CORRESPONDING BUDGET AMENDMENT. PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONAL AND STAFFING MODIFICATIONS AND BUDGET FISCAL IMPACT CORRESPONDING BUDGET AMENDMENT PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THE PROPOSED STAFFING MODIFICATIONS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SPECIAL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION 67 UTILIZING REVENUES GENERATED BY THE TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAMS THEMSELVES. SO WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, I A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVERSATION CAME UP WITH RED LIGHT, WHICH IS THIS IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THERE'S TICKETS FLYING AROUND, GOING AROUND, THERE'S THIS IDEA OF MONEY GRABBING. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE JUST SENT OUT THEIR WARNING LETTERS AND THEN DID THE PROGRAM INSTEAD. YOU COULD SEE THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A REQUEST TO INVEST IN ADDITIONAL STAFF. THERE'S THE WARNING LETTERS, THERE'S THE POLICE ALREADY BEING PRESENT AT THE SCHOOLS OUT THERE WITH THEIR LIGHTS ON, HUMANS SITTING IN THE CARS, GETTING PEOPLE INTO THE HABIT OF FOLLOWING THE RULE OF SLOWING DOWN, AND THEN ALSO NON HUMAN DECOY VEHICLES SITTING THERE TO GET PEOPLE IN THE HABIT OF SLOWING DOWN. SO THIS IS TRULY ABOUT FOR THOSE FEW FREQUENT FLIERS. AND 
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THERE'LL BE A LOT AT FIRST AS YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD THE HABIT. FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND, YOU NEED TO GO SLOW IN AN AREA THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY CHILDREN. THIS IS FOR THEM. AND THEY'LL QUITE LITERALLY, WITHOUT BEING HYPERBOLIC, THEY'LL PAY THE PRICE FOR IT AND HOPEFULLY GET INTO THE HABIT, IF I MAY. BY LAW, THERE WILL BE A 30 DAY WARNING PERIOD, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO PUT OUT A MEDIA RELEASE. I'M WORKING WITH ALL THE PRINCIPALS TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, AND ONCE WE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'RE TO THE POINT WHERE IF YOU'RE GOING 27, IT WILL BE 27 AND A 15 WITH THE YELLOW FLASHING LIGHT, WITH SCHOOL CROSSING GUARD STANDING OVER THE STOP SIGN, MAYBE THE TRAFFIC MANNEQUIN OUT THERE AND YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SCHOOL ZONE GOING 27 MILES AN HOUR. YOU DESERVE IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT, SO THANK YOU. SECOND. I'M GOOD. ONE QUESTION THOUGH, TO. NO, I'M JUST I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE WE'RE GETTING TO THE NEXT STEP OF THIS AND GETTING IT IMPLEMENTED. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS OUT ON 19. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO COST TO SOMEBODY'S LIFE. AND NOW WE'RE SPEAKING OF CHILDREN, AND I THINK IT HOLDS WELL. AND, YOU KNOW, I TRAVEL LOUISIANA A LOT AND I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SPEED. AND THE WORST PART THERE IS IT'S MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          AND MIDDLE SCHOOLERS DON'T ALWAYS ABIDE BY THE LAWS OF CROSSING AT THE CROSSWALK. THEY JUST CROSS THE ROAD. SO I HOPE THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, DOES WHAT WE INTEND IT TO DO. SO THANK YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE WATCHING THEIR PARENTS ON MAIN STREET WHEN THE CITY IS BUSY AT NIGHT BECAUSE NOBODY USES THE CROSSWALKS THERE. I'M GOOD. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? THE THE IN THIS CASE WITH THE RIGHT JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT TRYING TO BRING IT UP, BUT THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED PHOTO ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. THE STATE HAS NOT BANNED FLOCK FOR THAT. 
          IT'S JUST THE CHOICE THAT THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING NOT TO DO FLOCK THERE. IT'S ON A CITY ROADWAY. IT'S BANNED ON ALL STATE ROADWAYS. IT'S ON STATE ROADWAYS. RIGHT. BUT OUR SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS ARE ON CITY ROADWAYS. BUT WE'VE CHOSEN NOT TO IMPLEMENT FLOCK OR AOP TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT BEING FORCED BY THE STATE. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. 
          JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT'S A CHOICE THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY IIS5 NOTHING. 2026 RECREATIONAL AQUATIC CENTER ANNUAL 
          [10.g) 2026 Recreation and Aquatic Center Annual Membership Sale ]
MEMBERSHIP SALE. A SALE THAT TRADITIONALLY OCCURS AROUND THE HOLIDAY SEASON OFFERING, AS YOU'VE INDICATED, A REDUCTION IN THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP RATE TO PARTICIPATE AS A MEMBER AT THE RECREATION AND AQUATIC CENTER. AND MR. TRAP WILL PRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU, MISS MANSON. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE YEAR AGAIN. HALLOWEEN JUST ENDED, SO WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO THE HOLIDAY SEASON AS WELL AS OUR AQUATIC CENTER. ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP SALE. STAFF IS REQUESTING COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVING THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP SALE. I DID WANT TO PROVIDE JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE SALE PRIOR TO REVIEWING THIS YEAR'S SALE INFORMATION. AS MENTIONED BY MISS MANZ, THIS SALE USUALLY OCCURS DURING THE MONTHS OF DECEMBER AND JANUARY, AND OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT 170 TO 173 ANNUAL MEMBERSHIPS SOLD. THERE HAS BEEN A DOWNWARD TREND OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS NOTED IN THE ATTACHMENT FOR THAT DATA. AND JUST A COUPLE NOTES ON THAT. THE SALE REDUCED FROM FOUR WEEKS TO TWO WEEKS THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND ALSO AN INCREASE IN HEALTH CARE REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAMS, WHICH EVERYBODY WAS PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH, LIKE SILVERSNEAKERS. THERE'S PLENTY OF THEM NOW. 
          THERE'S AT LEAST FIVE THAT WE ACCEPT. SO THOSE PEOPLE GET MEMBERSHIPS TO THE FACILITY. SO THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT. AND THAT TREND REALLY HAS INCREASED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THE SALES AND OPPORTUNITY CAPITALIZE ON THE HOLIDAY SEASON, AS WELL AS THE NEW YEAR'S HEALTHY RESOLUTIONS CHANGES THIS YEAR. AS WE'VE NOTED THE DOWNWARD TREND IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE DID REVIEW IT THIS YEAR AND MADE A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO INCREASE IT TO FOUR YEARS, WHICH WAS DONE ONCE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT GIVING US MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPITALIZE ON PEOPLE COMING TO OUR FACILITY DURING THAT TIME FRAME, AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL A MONTH EARLIER THAN WE DID LAST YEAR. SO THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MARKET IT AND TO REALLY INCREASE OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THIS MEMBERSHIP, WHERE IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO WHEN WE ACTUALLY ROLL IT OUT. 
          SO WE'RE HOPEFUL AND ANTICIPATING THAT A GOOD MARKETING EFFORT WILL SHOW THE BENEFITS OF THIS SALE THIS YEAR. SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS YEAR'S SALE. IT'LL RUN FROM MONDAY, DECEMBER 14TH THROUGH MONDAY, JANUARY 11TH IF APPROVED. AND WE DO BREAK DOWN THE RESIDENT RATE TO 20% AND NONRESIDENT FOR 10%. AS MENTIONED IN THE MEMO, THE SALE WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE 
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PARKS AND REC BOARD ON OCTOBER 14TH, AND ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS VOTED IN FAVOR OF REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER APPROVING THIS YEAR'S SALE, AND THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE IS FACTORED INTO OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR THE YEAR, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP SALE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT SO, YOU KNOW, COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP. SECOND. YES, SIR. YOU SAID FOR YEARS. WHAT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WITH THAT? IT'LL BE IF I MISSPOKE. IT'S FOR THE MEMBERSHIP SALE AROUND FOUR WEEKS INSTEAD OF TWO WEEKS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. SO THE REASON I'M MAKING THE MOTION, BECAUSE IT'S NOW NOVEMBER AND A YEAR, TAKES US TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND I STILL REMAIN HOPEFUL THAT CONSIDERING THE AMENDMENT THREE AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAD FOR TWO YEARS ABOUT ITS RECREATION SERVICES AND OUR REQUEST, THAT HAS GONE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THAT VOTE HAPPENED TO TO REENGAGE WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO COLLECT FROM A RECREATION FUND FOR THE SERVICE AREA THAT SURROUNDS AND EXTENDS BEYOND OUR CITY LIMITS. IT SHOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE FOLKS THAT USE IT. AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE COSTS. AND IF WE COME TO SOME AGREEMENT, THEN MAYBE THOSE MEMBERSHIP FEES CHANGE NEXT YEAR. SO I'M HOPEFUL AND WITH NOTHING BEEN TO REPORT BECAUSE WE DELAYED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION UNTIL AFTER THE AMENDMENT THREE VOTE. SECOND, YEAH, JUST TO SAY ANOTHER REASON FOR THAT DOWNWARD TREND, WHICH MR. TRAP AND HIS STAFF HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, IS THAT OUR YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING BABIES. THERE'S THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING WITH ENROLLMENT ISSUES. THEY'RE SEEING THE SAME SOMEWHAT DOWNWARD TREND. SO OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE, THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT STARTING FAMILIES. AS SOON AS WE'D WE'D EXPECT THEM TO IN REGARDS TO THE, THE HEALTH CARE BASED INCENTIVES LIKE SILVERSNEAKERS. I'M CURIOUS, AS WE START TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AROUND AMENDMENT THREE, IF THERE'S A WAY. SINCE THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT IPAD OR DIFFERENT SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS THEIR MEMBERSHIPS, IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO ADD SOME SORT OF FEE FOR THAT THAT'S CHARGED TO SILVERSNEAKERS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE FOR THOSE MEMBERS. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, THIS IS A GOOD TRADITION. AND I'M GLAD THAT THE THE CITY STAFF REPORTS BACK THE DATA SO WE COULD SEE WHO'S TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM. NO, I JUST I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I, I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THIS OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'VE ALL SAID, WE KIND OF HAVE A DOWNWARD TREND. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A COUPLE WEEKS ISN'T ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S AN EVENT COMING UP, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS ACT RIGHT AWAY. WE WAIT, YOU KNOW, TILL THE LAST MINUTE. AND THEN SOMETIMES THAT DATE EXPIRES AND WE MISS IT AND WE'RE LIKE, DANG, I WISH I WOULD HAVE DONE IT SOONER. SO I THINK GIVING US FOUR WEEKS, I THINK IS A IS A BETTER OPTION MOVING FORWARD. 
          BUT THANK YOU. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER CHRISTMAS PRESENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I 
          [10.h) Public Works Operations Center (PWOC) – 12.5-Ton Split System Replacement]
THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS CENTER. THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVING AN APPROPRIATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $90,237 TO PURCHASE A 12.5 TON SPLIT SYSTEM. SPLIT SYSTEM FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS CENTER, AND MR. MUELLER WILL PRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU, MISS VANCE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. TO START, THE EXISTING HVAC SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN SERVICE SINCE THE COMPLETION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS CENTER IN 2009, AND FOLLOWING AN EVALUATION IN 2025 BY AMSCOT, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE 12.5 TON SPLIT SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED AIR HANDLING UNIT WERE APPROACHING THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE BASED ON MANUFACTURED GUIDELINES. AS A RESULT, THE REPLACEMENT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S 2627 FISCAL YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND THE APPROVED. THE PROPOSED WORK INCLUDES THE REPLACING OF THE EXISTING AIR HANDLER UNIT AND ASSOCIATED CONDENSING UNIT, ALONG WITH NECESSARY PIPING VALVES AND SUPPORT SYSTEMS TO MEET THE NEW 
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R454B REQUIREMENTS. THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE REPLACEMENT OF ELECTRICAL BREAKERS, THE ASSOCIATED SYSTEM ONE AS AS WELL AS THE ABC PROVIDED CONTROLS, THE KMC CONTROLLER SENSORS AND ACTUATORS. THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL PROVIDE A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT OF THE AGING SYSTEM AND ITS ASSOCIATED CONTROL COMPONENTS, AND THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S EXISTING HVAC MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND AMSCOT WITH AMSCOT UNDERNEATH THE ITB NUMBER 23-004. FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE AMSCOT PROPOSAL IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $90,237 AT THIS TIME. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION. VOTE APPROVAL. SECOND, THE MAKER COOL TO THE SECOND. GOOD. PATEL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RYAN. THANKS, COLIN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I I I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. REQUEST TO PURCHASE A WHEEL ALIGNMENT 
          [10.i) Request to Purchase Wheel Alignment System for Central Garage]
SYSTEM FOR THE CENTRAL GARAGE MR. MUELLER YES, MA'AM. SO TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO REVIEW AND APPROVE A PROPOSAL FROM MOHAWK LIFTS LLC IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $85,857.41 FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE HAWKEYE ELITE WHEEL ALIGNMENT SYSTEM FOR THE CITY'S CENTRAL GARAGE DIVISION. THE PROPOSAL PROVIDES PRICING THROUGH THE CURRENT SOURCEWELL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING CONTRACT, AND THAT'S BID AWARD NUMBER 121223 DASH MIKE ROMEO LIMA. 
          THE EQUIPMENT WILL ALLOW THE CENTRAL GARAGE STAFF TO MEASURE AND ADJUST VEHICLE STEERING AND SUSPENSION ANGLES TO MEET THE MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFICATIONS AND NAIL THAT PROPER WHEEL ALIGNMENT AS IT IS ESSENTIAL TO FOLLOWING STEERING OR SUSPENSION REPAIRS, AND IS ALSO IMPORTANT PART OF VEHICLE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, PURCHASING THE EQUIPMENT THROUGH THE SOURCE WALL PROVIDES ACCESS TO ESTABLISHED CONTRACT PRICING AND SUPPORTS THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN ITS VEHICLES WHILE MANAGING FLEET COST AND THE PURCHASES BUDGETED AGAIN UNDER THE 2627 FISCAL YEAR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE CENTRAL GARAGE DIVISION. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE NOW, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING SUBBED OUT, DONE OUT OF HOUSE? WE CURRENTLY SUB THAT OUT AT THIS TIME AND THIS WILL SERVICE. IT WILL HANDLE LIKE THE POLICE FLEET, ALL THE ALL THE CITY VEHICLES. THAT IS CORRECT UP TO THE BIG TRUCKS. IT WON'T. I MEAN, I'M SURE IT IT WOULDN'T BE DOING ANY OF OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT. THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ITEM, BUT IT'LL DO EVERYTHING UP TO OUR FIRE VEHICLES. ANY KIND OF LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS SYSTEM. WITH NEWER TECHNOLOGY COMING ALONG, YOU KNOW, IS IT GOING TO BE OUTDATED IN A, YOU KNOW. WHERE DO YOU WANT US TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS OR I THINK YOU SHOULD GET WITH HIM AT ANOTHER TIME. THIS ISN'T REALLY TIME FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, TO BRING UP THE WHOLE SUBJECT. WE HAVE A PACKET. WE HAVE A PACKET THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO GET IF YOU'D LIKE AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT ASKING VALID QUESTIONS. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO GO ABOUT THAT. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS. WE HAVE THE PACKET AND YOU, YOU SIT THERE AND GET THE IDEA AND THEN YOU COME UP AND ASK A QUESTION, YOU KNOW. MR. MR. BARRETT, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, THE THIS EXCUSE ME SIR, THE AGENDA ITEM. THE RESIDENT IS ENTITLED TO THREE MINUTES SPEAKING TIME. SO WHAT I THINK SHOULD TAKE PLACE, MR. HALL OR MR. WEBB, IS IF IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST GETTING THE QUESTIONS OUT, ALL OF THEM ON THE PUBLIC RECORD, AND THEN WE CAN RELAY THEM TO STAFF VERSUS THE Q AND A, BUT TO SAY HE CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS AND THAT HE SHOULD BE PRIVATELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. TIM, HOW FAR SHOULD WE GO INTO THIS? WELL, QUESTIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CHAIR, AND THEN THE CHAIR DIRECTS ANY RESPONSE. SO THE IDEA BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN A STAFF MEMBER IS DEFINITELY PROHIBITED BY OUR RULES. SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY HE CAN CERTAINLY RAISE QUESTIONS, BUT HE RAISES THEM TO YOU AND THEN YOU DIRECT HOW THEY GET RESPONDED. OKAY THEN. SO WHAT I SAY BEST YOU GET GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR PUT THE RECORD, PUT HIM ON THE SAY THEM DURING YOUR THREE MINUTES, WHICH YOU'RE ENTITLED TO. I DIDN'T NEED MUCH TIME. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL ALL THOSE IN. WELL, WE'LL BRING IT BACK. WAS THERE ANOTHER PERSON? YEAH. COME ON UP, PLEASE. THIS IS IN 
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THE PACKET, SO IT SHOULD BE EASY FOR YOU TO ANSWER. WHAT IS THE ROI ON THIS INVESTMENT? DEBBIE. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS? I WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ON HAND. I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY STATE THAT ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE WOULD SPEND ON THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, I CAN'T ANTICIPATE ANY DRAMATIC CHANGES OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS OR BEYOND THAT, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT WE WOULD GET SUBSTANTIAL USE OUT OF THIS. AS YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE'VE DONE A TIRE REPLACEMENT OR ANY SORT OF WORK ON A VEHICLE SUSPENSION OR WITHIN THE WHEEL ALIGNMENT SYSTEM IN AND OF ITSELF, YOU HAVE TO SEND THAT OUT AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, WITH OUR OWN VEHICLES. 
          SO THAT WOULD PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OVER THE COURSE OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE 5 OR 10 YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG WE CAN UTILIZE THAT EQUIPMENT. ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T HEAR AN ANSWER TO THE ROI RETURN ON INVESTMENT SEEMS A SIMPLE THING THAT SHOULD BE IN ANY. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE IT. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE IT. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE ROI IS. EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, WE HAVE YOUR OPINION. THANK YOU. SO BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE YES. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. SO I'M GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE TOWARDS THE MACHINE. SINCE I GREW UP IN A REPAIR SHOP MY WHOLE LIFE. SO THIS IS JUST ONE OTHER COMPONENT THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THERE. AND REALLY IS THERE. THERE'S REALLY NO ROI BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IT. SO IT'S JUST IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS TO ME, I LOOK AT IT AS MORE OF CONVENIENCE OF GETTING OUR FLEET BACK UP AND RUNNING. SO INSTEAD OF US SENDING THIS VEHICLE OUT TO AN OUTSIDE SOURCE SEVERAL DAYS, THE VEHICLE'S DOWN. WE CAN DO IT IN-HOUSE, YOU KNOW, SPEEDS THE PROCESS UP. MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS TRAINED ON THE MACHINE, OR IF WE HAVE TO TRAIN THEM, IS THAT PART OF THE COST? THE TRAINING WOULD BE PROVIDED WITHIN. THERE'S LIKE A PACKET THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT AND A VIDEO COURSE LOG THAT ACTUALLY HELPS OUR EMPLOYEES LEARN THE EQUIPMENT BETTER. THANK YOU A SECOND. YEAH, A FEW THINGS. THE FIRST ONE IS, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS AGENDA ITEM UP AND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO BRING SOME OF WHAT THE CITY DOES IN-HOUSE IN, IN, IN WHAT SHOULD BE EVENTUALLY A COST SAVING ELEMENT OR COST SAVING FUNCTION. I DO THINK AS WE CONSIDER THE IMPACTS OF AMENDMENT THREE, IT IS GOING TO BECOME NECESSARY, AS WAS BROUGHT UP DURING WHAT WAS A PARTIAL, DISTORTED PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT THE PROCESS IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED PROPERLY, BUT THE THE POINT RAISED WAS EXCELLENT, WHICH IS THAT AS A COUNCIL UP HERE, BUT ESPECIALLY JUST IN GENERAL, AS WE START SEEING THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS COME BEFORE US THAT HAVE BEEN BUDGETED, IT'S BUDGETED FOR THAT ARE NOW IN FRONT OF US WITH A NUMBER. AND WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN ULTIMATE INVESTMENT WITH A RETURN, HAVING SOME WAY OF PROJECTING SOME SORT OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY AS WE'RE DECIDING WHAT NEEDS CUT OR WHAT FEES NEED TO BE EXTENDED. BUT JUST THE BASIC PREMISE OF ALIGNING VEHICLES AND THE LIFESPAN LIKE THIS, THIS ALIGNMENT SYSTEM, THE THE WHEEL ALIGNMENT SYSTEM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE LIFESPAN ON THAT EQUIPMENT ITSELF? I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE MANUFACTURER GUIDELINES WITHIN THE MOHAWK SERVICE SITE, AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT 15 YEARS AS THEIR TYPICAL. AND THEN THE WARRANTY COVERS UP TO TEN. AND THIS WOULD. THIS WOULD SERVE MORE THAN JUST ONE TYPE OF VEHICLE. THIS COULD SERVE OUR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR FLEET, MOST OF OUR FLEET. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IN MY MIND, WITHOUT DOING, YOU KNOW, ON EVERY ISSUE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO A SO-CALLED FORENSIC AUDIT OR GET DOWN TO THE TO THE NITTY GRITTY AND RUN A STUDY ON AN $85,000 ITEM. BUT JUST BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING NOW, IT'S GOING TO SERVE OUR VEHICLES, OUR VEHICLES. IT'S NOT A SPECIALIZED PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IT'S GOING TO LAST FOR 15 YEARS. SO OVERALL, THIS TO ME SEEMS LIKE A BUDGET WORTHY DECISION WHERE WE COME OUT AHEAD, IT BRINGS SOMETHING IN-HOUSE. SO THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THE BUDGET THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PROPOSED AND FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION, MR. MAYOR, THE BUT THE POINT OF STARTING TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND GIVING THEM VALUE IS WELL NOTED AND NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE KEEP AN EYE ON. MR. MR. MAYOR, YOU YOU HAD A RESIDENT UP HERE AND YOU TOLD THAT RESIDENT TO MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD PRIVATELY AND THAT THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEM. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS EXACTLY THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE WE'RE 
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VOTING ON IT. AND THEN TWO, THAT IF IF YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS AND I LIKE HEARING THEM. AND SO IF A RESIDENT CAN HAVE THEIR THREE MINUTES TO GET THEIR QUESTIONS OUT, WHERE THAT WENT WRONG IS ALLOWING THAT RESIDENT TO SPEAK WITH OUR STAFF DIRECTLY AND WAIT FOR A REPLY TO HIS QUESTION, VERSUS LET HIM GET HIS QUESTIONS OUT SO THAT WE CAN THEN GIVE STAFF A CHANCE TO RESPOND, OR WE CAN ASK THE STAFF INTERNALLY. BUT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE QUESTIONS THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW THEM NOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIRECTED THAT RESIDENT INCORRECTLY TO CURB THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND MEET WITH HIM PRIVATELY. SO IF YOU COULD NOT DISCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS FROM USING THEIR THREE MINUTES, NO PROBLEM SIR, NO PROBLEM SIR, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER. WHO ELSE HASN'T SPOKE YET? PETER? PETER? YEAH. JUST SINCE ACCOUNTING IS MY THING AND ROI IS AN ACCOUNTING TERM RETURN ON INVESTMENT, I WOULD JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE LOOK AT TWO THINGS. ONE, WHICH IS IN OUR CHARTER AND OUR ORDINANCES, WHICH DO REQUIRE IN A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THAT THERE'S ALSO SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ONGOING COSTS OF OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THINGS. WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THAT. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT TO SAY, THESE ARE THINGS WE COULD DO TO IMPROVE, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT TELLS US TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. AND IF I WAS TO GIVE A SIMPLE RESPONSE, IT MIGHT BE THAT IN THE FUTURE, AS WE DO THESE THINGS, IF WE SAY WE'VE BEEN SENDING IT OUT, THEN WE HAVE X NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND THE AVERAGE SERVICE TO EVERY SIX MONTHS, AND THE COST OF THAT X NUMBER OF VEHICLES WOULD BE $50 TO THE VENDOR. AND SO WE ARE SPENDING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS A YEAR. AND SO IF WE SPEND THIS MONEY NOW, BUT THEN IT GETS COMPLICATED BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE STAFF, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY ON BOARD. SO I HEARD WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE THERE, THEY CAN DO IT. THERE'S ENOUGH. SO BASICALLY THE ARGUMENT I'M MAKING FOR YOU BACK TO US IS THAT A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL THAT'S BEING REQUESTED WOULD PROBABLY BE USEFUL FOR US AS WELL. IF WE HAVE 100 VEHICLES, IF 50 VEHICLES, THE COST IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. AND SO YOU CAN REALLY INDICATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT INVESTMENT IS GOING TO LAST US FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS AND IT SHOULD RETURN IN SPADES HOW MUCH SAVINGS WE CAN GET. SO IT'S MORE DETAIL. WE GENERALLY DON'T ASK FOR A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS. YOU PUT STUFF IN, IT'S IN THE BUDGET. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING COULD BE IN THE BUDGET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH 20 MINUTES OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT'LL ALREADY BE IN THE PLAN. SO I THINK LOOKING AT OUR ORDINANCE TO YOU. I THINK AND THE OTHER POINT JUST TO MAKE IN TERMS OF PROTOCOL UP HERE, IS THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS TO ALSO TO BE DIRECTED TO YOU, TO SUGGEST TO THE STAFF WHAT THEY SHOULD DO. SO WE'RE ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. NONE OF US HAS ONE OUNCE MORE AUTHORITY THAN THE OTHER. IT TAKES THREE OF US TO DO ANYTHING. AND BUT THE THE MAYOR, TO HIS POINT, IS THE CEREMONIAL HEAD OF THE MEETING OF THE CITY AND. AND HE DIRECTS THE MEETING. SO I'M NOT FAULTING YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR ATTEMPTING TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, DIRECT IT. AND TO THAT POINT, MR. WEBB WAS WRONG TO TURN AND SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THEM. AND SO I THINK WE'VE GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT HERE. SO WE'LL BE FINE GOING FORWARD. AND I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT. YEAH, I CAN JUST JUST FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, IT'S DEFINITELY A COST SAVINGS. 
          WE HAVE A MECHANIC AT OUR SHOP THAT HE'S NOT THERE FULL TIME, BUT WHEN HE IS THERE AND WE CAN GET ONE OF OUR VEHICLES IN THERE, GET IT FIXED AND GET IT BACK OUT ON THE ROAD. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A TRUCK DOWN FOR A DAY, I MEAN, THAT COULD LITERALLY BE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE BEHIND FOR THAT DAY JUST ON VEHICLE REPAIR. 
          SO, I MEAN, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S DEFINITELY ANYTHING YOU CAN DO IN-HOUSE GET DONE RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU SUB IT OUT OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND IT MAY BE DAYS WHERE YOU GET IT BACK. SO I'M ALL FOR IT. I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN BRING UP THE IDEA OF, YOU MIGHT BE DRIVING THAT VEHICLE A LOT LONGER, SO YOU MIGHT EAT UP MORE OF THE TIRES. 
          AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO END UP MAYBE FIVE, TEN, 15% MORE COST OF TIRES. SO ANYHOW, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I. THAT'S FINE. ANOTHER REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE FDEP GRANT 
          [10.j) Request for Approval of FDEP Grant Agreement 27RCP11 RE: Rio Drive Stormwater Improvements]
AGREEMENT. 27RCP11. THE PROJECT RELATES TO REO DRIVE, SOME STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU WILL RECALL THAT LAST YEAR WE SUBMITTED THIS PROJECT FOR A LEGISLATIVE 
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APPROPRIATION. WE DID WORK WITH THE SOUTHERN GROUP. ULTIMATELY, THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND THE AMOUNT OF $1,125,000. AND MR. ISHMAEL IS PREPARED TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT. THANK YOU, MISS MANSON. 
          AS STATED, THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS FOR A GRANT AWARD THAT WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SOUTHERN GROUP TO OBTAIN. THIS GRANT AGREEMENT PROVIDES THE 1,125,000 IN STATE FUNDING, WITH NO LOCAL MATCHING FUNDS REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT ALONG RIO DRIVE. THAT INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF STORMWATER INLETS AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF RIO DRIVE AND WYOMING AVENUE, AS WELL AS ALONG LAFAYETTE STREET AND REPLACEMENT OF MORE THAN 1200FT OF STORMWATER PIPING, IMPROVEMENTS TO AN OUTFALL AND ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE INLETS, ALONG WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A BAFFLE BOX FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE STORMWATER QUALITY AS IT FALLS OUT INTO THE RIVER. THIS AGREEMENT COVERS THE WORK SCHEDULE BETWEEN JULY 1ST, 2026 AND JUNE 30TH, 2029. WE'LL HAVE THE PROJECT DONE LONG BEFORE THEN. FUNDING WILL BE PROVIDED ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS, SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. REQUIREMENTS AND SUBMISSION OF THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION. THE GRANT FUNDING IS IDENTIFIED AND ALLOCATED IN THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR 2627 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM UNDER THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. MOVE APPROVAL OF THAT 1 MILLION PLUS GRANT. I'LL SECOND THE MAKER. 
          NO NEWS. GOOD FOR THE RIVER. GOOD FOR THE FOLKS ON THE STREET. GOOD JOB. JUST ONE QUESTION. IS THERE A HOUSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHING IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUR OUTFALL TO THE RIVER? SO WE HAVE AN EXISTING EASEMENT, AN EXISTING OUTFALL THAT COMES DOWN TENNESSEE. THERE IS A SMALL PORTION OF PROPERTY, AND I'VE ALREADY HAD A DISCUSSION. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY TOO MUCH ON IT NOW, BUT I'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE HOMEOWNER. IT'S A IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT FOR A SLIVER OF THAT IS LANDLOCKED AND INACCESSIBLE BECAUSE OUR EASEMENTS RIGHT THERE AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. COLIN. MATT. 
          YEAH, NO, THAT'S THAT'S AWESOME NEWS AND DESPERATELY NEEDED. SO GLAD. THANK YOU. NO THANK YOU SIR. GOOD QUESTION, MR. JONAS. THANK YOU. ALWAYS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I I THAT'S 
          [10.k) Resolution No. 2027-01: Authorization for the City Manager to Update Corebridge Financial, Inc., fka/Valic 401(a) Plan]
FIVE NOTHING. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 701. AUTHORIZATION FOR CITY MANAGER. UPDATE. KORN BRIDGE FINANCIAL, INC. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 701, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR REPLACEMENT OF A GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT PLAN, PROVIDING FOR A NEW AND UPDATED 401. A RETIREMENT PLAN TO REPLACE AN OUTDATED ONE. A RETIREMENT PLAN PROVIDING AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS AND TAKE SUCH ACTIONS DEEMED NECESSARY TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THIS RESOLUTION. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MORE SPECIFICALLY, THIS AGENDA ITEM HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY'S DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED BY CORBRIDGE FINANCIAL, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO IMPLEMENT A NEW 401 A RETIREMENT PLAN REPLACING THE 400, A RETIREMENT PLAN WITH CORBRIDGE AND MR. WETZEL'S, GOOD TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THAT'S NECESSARY. THANK YOU, MISS MANSON. AGAIN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THIS THIS ISSUE REALLY GOES BACK OVER 20 YEARS. AS MISS MAN SAID THAT BACK IN 2000, PRIOR TO 2006, THERE WAS A DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN THAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTED TO FOR EMPLOYEES AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND 2026. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY HERE. IN 2026, THE CITY MOVED TO THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM. FRS AT THAT TIME, THE EMPLOYEES HAD A CHOICE EITHER TO REMAIN IN THE DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN WITH VALIC, WHICH IS NOW CORBRIDGE, OR TRANSITION OVER TO FRS TO THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM. AT THAT TIME. AND AGAIN, AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF EMPLOYEES MOVED OVER TO FRS. OKAY. THE STIPULATION WAS IF YOU DID NOT MOVE OVER TO FRS, YOU COULD NOT JOIN FRS DOWN THE ROAD. SO AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE 11 EMPLOYEES THAT CHOSE TO REMAIN IN THE DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN WITH VALIC. TODAY, THERE ARE ONLY THREE EMPLOYEES REMAINING IN THIS PLAN. OKAY, SO WITH REGARD TO THAT, THERE'S THREE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT REMAIN IN THERE THAT THE CITY DOES MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO 
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THEM INTO THAT RETIREMENT PLAN FOR THEM. BUT AGAIN, WHAT WHAT WE FOUND HERE AGAIN, I WILL SAY THIS TO MISS MANNS. SHE DIRECTED THE HR LEADERSHIP TEAM, MISS TERRY KEARNS AND MYSELF, WHEN WE CAME HERE TO REALLY LOOK AT THINGS IN HR AND STUFF THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED AND IMPROVED OR WHATEVER. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT, AGAIN, THROUGH RESEARCH, WE FOUND THAT THAT THE PLAN WAS NOT BEING MANAGED BY CORBRIDGE OR VALIC OR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE CITY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THIS PLAN. SO AGAIN, WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME THERE WAS FORFEITED FORFEITURE OF MONEY. AND AGAIN, THAT FORFEITURE OF MONEY COMES FROM EMPLOYEES THAT WERE NOT VESTED IN THE PLAN OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR THE PLAN AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY HAS GROWN OVER A OVER THESE 20 PLUS YEARS THAT THAT THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN BEEN IN THIS ACCOUNT THAT, AGAIN, I'LL SAY A LITTLE BIT, BUT UNBEKNOWNST TO TO A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, BECAUSE AGAIN, CORBRIDGE OR VALIC DID NOT PROVIDE A LOT OF GUIDANCE OR OVERSIGHT TO THIS PLAN FROM THAT END. SO AT THAT TIME, THE CITY HAD 12 MONTHS BACK THEN, IN 2006, HAD 12 MONTHS TO DIRECT HOW THOSE FORFEITURE ACCOUNT ACCOUNT FUNDS WERE TO BE DISTRIBUTED OR HANDLED. THAT NEVER OCCURRED. SO AGAIN, THIS PLAN HAS BECOME VERY OUTDATED AND STUFF ALONG THOSE LINES. SO WE NOW NEED TO MOVE TO TO A NEW PLAN. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ONLY THREE EMPLOYEES IN THERE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY THIS TO SOME DEGREE TO RELEASE THAT FORFEITURE MONEY BACK TO THE CITY. NOW, THE CITY WILL USE THAT MONEY TO, AGAIN, TO MAKE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THOSE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT WILL GO INTO THIS NEW PLAN FROM THAT STANDPOINT. BUT IT NEEDS TO TO THE PLAN NEEDS TO CHANGE. THE OUTDATED PLAN NEEDS TO END. WE NEED TO MOVE TO NEW PLAN, TO A NEW PLAN TO ESTABLISH DIFFERENT PARAMETERS AND SETUPS FROM THAT END. AND IT ALSO I'LL SAY THIS, IT WILL ALSO PUT US IN A POSITION THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE IRS. AND AGAIN, ALSO TO DO WITH THESE FOR FORFEITED FUNDS. AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THAT FORFEITED FUNDS, YOU KNOW, THOSE FORFEITED FUNDS WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY. AND AGAIN, I SAID, WE'LL PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING TO THOSE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE STILL IN THERE. AND AGAIN, I WILL TELL YOU AGAIN, TO USE THAT WHOLE AMOUNT OF THE FORFEITURE MONEY, WE'LL TAKE IN EXCESS OF TEN PLUS YEARS TO, AGAIN, JUST TO FUND THOSE THREE EMPLOYEES FROM THAT END. BUT AGAIN, THE FORFEITURE MONEY WILL FREE UP SOME SOME MONEY BACK TO THE CITY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 
          SECOND. OH, I HEARD IT. WE. WE SHOULD DO IT A SECOND. SOUNDS GOOD. I'M GOOD. JILL. YEAH. I THINK THIS IS A. AT LEAST I WON'T PUT A NUMBER ON IT, BUT THIS IS ONE OF MANY ITEMS THAT DIRECTOR WETZEL HAS BROUGHT TO US ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OR THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER RELATED TO HOUSEKEEPING, CLEANING THINGS UP, GETTING THINGS BACK ON TRACK, MAKING SURE THE THE SHELVES AREN'T GETTING DUSTY, SO TO SPEAK, AND SO TO SAY YOU HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WOULD BE TRUE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A BIT NOW, BUT YOU JUST CONSISTENTLY FINDING WAYS TO BRING THINGS UP TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. SO THANK YOU SIR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I HAVE NOTHING COMMUNICATIONS. SO THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP 
          [11) Communications]
THIS SATURDAY AT THE OLD RIVER ROAD CHURCH, 6131 RIVER ROAD, AS WELL AS FRANCIS PARK FROM 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE SOME PUBLIC WORKS STAFF RIGHT ON SITE FOR BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS. THERE'S ALSO AN ONGOING 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SURVEY THAT WAS POSTED HERE TONIGHT, BUT IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AND FACEBOOK PAGE, AND THAT IF THE CITY MANAGER COULD JUST LOOP COUNCIL IN ON WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE FOR UPDATING THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CLEARLY WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS. WE'RE GETTING PUBLIC INPUT. SO A NICE HOLISTIC TIMELINE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WOULD BE HELPFUL. I'M GOING TO BE FOR MY PEERS UP HERE. I'M GOING TO BE MAKING A REQUEST FOR JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DOLLARS, AND JUST THE TOTALITY DEBRIEF OF HOW THOSE WERE SPENT, IN WHAT WAYS, AND WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE. I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT USING IT FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS, AND THEN WE ULTIMATELY WENT WITH A BOND INSTEAD. SO JUST GETTING AN IDEA OF WHERE THEN THOSE FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED, I'LL BE PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. SO IF ANY OF MY PEERS HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER IN REGARDS TO THAT, AS WELL AS A TIMELINE FOR THE OTHER COMMUNICATION I'M GOING TO BE MAKING TO THE CITY MANAGER IS AMENDMENT THREE HAS PASSED, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING SINCE IT PASSED. SO STARTING TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT PROCESS. WHAT THE CITY MANAGER NEEDS FROM COUNCIL IN TERMS OF INPUT OR WORKSHOPS OR WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M 
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DOING MY PART INDIVIDUALLY, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A DIRECTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER OF HOW HOW SHE'S HOW SHE AND STAFF ARE STARTING TO TACKLE THAT ISSUE AND COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN LAST THING THERE WAS WE PASSED THAT ORDINANCE SOME A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WITH THE MOBILITY VEHICLES, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY JUST THE POLICE'S RECOMMENDATION FOR E-BIKES AND ENFORCEMENT OF E-BIKES, UPDATING THE ENFORCEMENT OF CERTAIN PEDESTRIAN MODALITIES IN OUR CITY LIMITS AS IT RELATES TO PARKS AND SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SPACES. THERE WAS AN INCIDENT RELATED TO AN ENFORCEMENT OF ONE OF THOSE, EXCUSE ME, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT RELATED TO AN ENFORCEMENT THAT INVOLVED AN E-BIKE, AND I HAD POSED A QUESTION TO CITY MANAGEMENT AS IT RELATES TO WHETHER THAT ENFORCEMENT WAS THE RESULT OF THE ORDINANCE CHANGES WE MADE UP HERE. YOU WILL PROBABLY RECALL, IF YOU READ THE CITY MANAGER'S MEMO THAT CAME OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, THAT SHE HAD GIVEN A REPLY. AND IN THAT REPLY, THE YOU DIDN'T GET TO SEE MY REQUEST, BUT MY REQUEST WAS ESSENTIALLY, WAS THAT ENFORCEMENT AT ALL RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE WE PASSED SO THAT WE CAN REFLECT ON HOW THAT ORDINANCE IS IMPACTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ACTIVITIES AND WHETHER WE NEED TO MAKE TWEAKS, OR WHETHER THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE WANT IT TO BE BEING ENFORCED. IF YOU IF HEARING WHAT I'M SAYING NOW, IF YOU'VE READ THE CITY MANAGER'S REPLY, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT NOWHERE IN HER NARRATIVE DID SHE ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          INSTEAD, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF HER RESPONSE WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY MANAGER AND DIRECTING DEPARTMENT ACTIVITIES, AND CAUTIONING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE MINDFUL OF OUR ROLE UP HERE AS POLICY MAKERS AND OVERSIGHT OVER THE BUDGET, WHICH I TAKE AND I AGREE WITH AND I RESPECT AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER REMINDING COUNCIL OF THAT. HOWEVER, NOWHERE IN THE REPLY OTHER THAN EXCUSE ME, THE THE ONLY REPLY I GOT TO MY SUBSTANTIVE QUESTION WAS AN ATTACHMENT OF THAT ORDINANCE, WHICH I ALREADY HAD BECAUSE WE JUST VOTED ON IT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR, SINCE I CAN'T THROUGH EMAIL, RESPOND TO THAT AND LOOP YOU GUYS IN AND GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT OF WHERE THAT REQUEST CAME FROM AND THE INFORMATION I'M STILL SEEKING AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT IS NOW FROM OCTOBER 1ST. SO A MONTH OLD, I AM JUST SEEKING WHAT WAS THAT ENFORCEMENT AND IF IT WAS RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE, IF IT IF IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE, THEN THE ANSWER IS NO, THAT THE THING WE PASSED HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR. IF IT WAS RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHAT SPECIFIC PART OF THE ORDINANCE OR IS IT RELATED TO, AND WHAT WERE THE FACTS OF THE SITUATION THAT LED TO THE NEED TO DO WHAT TOOK PLACE? AND I'M BEING CAUTIOUS WITH MY WORDS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH WHATEVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING IN TERMS OF AN INVESTIGATION OR CHARGES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT I'M STRICTLY INTERESTED IN HOW THAT ORDINANCE HAD TO DO WITH THE EVENT THAT OCCURRED. AND IF IF I NEED TO BE ANY MORE CLEARER ON THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. CITY MANAGER. BUT I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER SENSE OF DIRECTION OF WHERE I WAS TRYING TO COME FROM WITH MY REQUEST AND WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS. AND I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THE CRA. I WILL SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY TO THE ISSUE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT JUST PASSED, AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST WEIGH IN ON THE FACT THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE HELD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS TO DESCRIBE THE THE RESULTS OF A PASSING OF THAT AMENDMENT. I DID NOT ATTEND ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS. AND, FRANKLY, PART OF IT OUT OF THE THE THE THE STATE OBLIGATION TO US THAT WE NOT TRY TO PROMOTE AN OUTCOME. BUT I WILL SAY, JUST TO GET IT ON THE RECORD, THAT I BELIEVE THAT ANY CONVERSATION THAT AMENDMENT THREE WOULD AFFECT OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE, OR OUR OUR SERVICES IS A COMMENT THAT WOULD SAY THAT THE AMENDMENT, IF IT PASSES, AFFECTS THE GENERAL FUND AND THE AMENDMENT IF IT PASSES, LOWERS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THE THE TAXABLE REAL ESTATE VALUE AND THE TAXABLE REAL ESTATE VALUE OF EVERYTHING THAT GREW SINCE THE YEAR 2000 IS GOING INTO THE CRA. AND SO IF THE CRA IS GOING TO NEED TO BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE WITH THE RESULTS OF 
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THIS AND THAT ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN OUR CITY, BECAUSE WE'RE ALMOST AN ENTIRE CITY CRA THAT OUR OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE POLICE AND FIRE WOULD BE WOULD BE STYMIED BECAUSE OF THIS WOULD BE WRONG. BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE GENERAL FUND ISN'T GETTING ANY INCREASES FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES AS A RESULT OF THE CRA TAKING IT ALL INTO ITSELF. THE CRA GETS A BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE. IT GETS ALL OF THE MONEY WE PAY TO THE COUNTY BACK INTO THE FUND. SO IT'S WORTHWHILE FOR CAPITAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS. BUT IN THIS TIGHT ENVIRONMENT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EFFECTS, I THINK, AND WARN OURSELVES AS CRA DIRECTORS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT OUR OUR LONG TERM FUTURE PLANS. IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT IT WILL AFFECT FUTURE BUDGETS. AND AT THE SAME TIME, VALUES WILL REBOUND AS NEW THINGS HAPPEN. AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. SO IT'S IT'S MORE THAN THE SIMPLE CALCULATIONS THAT THE STATE HAS MADE TO TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY WE WILL LOSE. IT ALL RELATES TO HOW FAST THE CITY IS GROWING. THE 3% INCREASES IN THE SAVE OUR HOMES, THE CHOICES WE MAKE ON OUR PROPERTY TAXES, AND THE WAY IN WHICH WE DETERMINE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR EXPANDING RECREATION SERVICES AND OTHERWISE. SO IT'S A IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION IN JANUARY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AN EXERCISE THAT EVERYONE HAS TO DO TO SHOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE BUDGET BY 10%. 
          THAT'S JUST NOT REQUIRING US TO DO IT, BUT JUST MAKING SURE WE GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE TIME WHEN WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE EFFECTS THAT WE WILL HAVE IN TERMS OF THE CRA'S ABILITY TO, TO FUND BACK THE PAYMENTS THAT IT GETS FOR ITS OPERATIONAL COSTS OR THE COSTS OF WHICH THE CRA HAS TO INCUR. SO THAT'S ALL IMPORTANT. I ALSO WOULD SAY THAT THE I'LL SAVE FOR THE CRA MEETING SOME COMMENTS, BUT I WOULD LIKE, MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU BECOME, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO ALLOW ME TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT DISCUSSION I HAD WITH SOMEONE ABOUT SOIL TESTING, BUT THE. THE. AND IT IS APPROPRIATE NOW JUST TO BRING IT OUT, THAT I WAS TOLD THAT PASCO COUNTY REQUIRES ANY JUST ABOUT MOST KIND OF CONSTRUCTION TO DO A SOIL TEST, BUT I WAS TOLD BY A SOIL TEST PERSON THAT THE CITY OF NEWPORT. RICHIE DOES NOT HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR SOIL TESTING BEFORE ANYTHING IS CONSTRUCTED AND. AND I'VE BEEN CONCERNED TO SEE THE EXTRA COSTS WE TOOK AT THE FIRE STATION, THE EXTRA COSTS WE DID AT THE GARAGE, AND THE UNKNOWNS THAT WE GET INTO WHEN WE START WORKING IN THE ENVIRONMENT OF LIME ROCK UNDERNEATH OUR. AND THE POTENTIAL COSTS. THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED DELAY OF THE MAIN STREET LANDING BUILDING, WHICH WAS THAT THOSE PILINGS HAD TO GO DOWN THREE TIMES FARTHER THAN THEY HAD GONE BEFORE. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND SPRING THAT RUNS OUT PRETTY MUCH DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, INTO THE RIVER RIGHT THERE AT THAT SPOT. SO I THINK THAT THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT YOU HAD AN INSPECTOR FROM THE CITY GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE BUILDING AND GIVE SOME RESPONSES. THERE WAS DISCUSSION THERE ABOUT CRACKING, AND THE INDIVIDUAL I TALKED TO WITH SOIL TESTING NOTICED A GOOD NUMBER OF CRACKS ALONG THE THE BRICK AND MAYBE NOT MAJOR, BUT INDICATIONS THAT SOME SETTLING OVER TIME MAY HAVE OCCURRED. SO I DO THINK THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT BUILDING IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE WE SEE IT DEMOLISHED. 
          THANK YOU MATT. THANKS. I'LL JUST SAY I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER TODAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, ABOUT AMENDMENT THREE AND KIND OF WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE. AND AND I KNOW SHE INDICATED THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE KIND OF ROLLING IT OUT AND WORKING WITH US, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROCESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, BE ALL INVOLVED WITH SO THAT THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE COMING. THE, THE CLEANUP THIS WEEKEND WAS THAT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, MR. MAYOR? IT IS IT WAS OKAY. I MUST HAVE JUST MISSED IT. MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL I HAVE. RIGHT. WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT AMENDMENT THREE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I'LL WE'LL SAVE THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS RECEIVED A GRANT, ALMOST $25,000 FOR DECONTAMINATION EQUIPMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT. AND THEN ALSO FOR WHOEVER 
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WASN'T HERE EARLIER, I THINK WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT NOT THE FINAL, BUT A PRETTY FINAL PLAN ON THE THE SKATE PARK AT THE AQUATIC AND REC CENTER. SO I'M FINALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. AND I THINK WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THAT. SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO I'LL END ON THAT NOTE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN HALLOWEEN. I THINK IT WAS JUST PHENOMENAL, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES THAT OPENED THEIR DOORS TO GIVE CANDY TO THE KIDS AND THEN ADULTS THAT WERE DRESSED AND THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT THEY BROUGHT ABOUT TO US. BUT ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP FOR THE FIVE OF US HERE, AND WOULD LIKE YOU TO REVIEW IT AND THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, A LOT. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT VOX POP AND OTHER CITIES, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE VOX POP AT THE END, BECAUSE THE SUBJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, THEY COME UP AND TALK ABOUT VOX POP BEFORE WE EVEN DISCUSS THE DISCUSS THE EVENT OR THE ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT VOX POP POSSIBLY MOVE TO THE END. AND THEN I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE RESERVE, FIRST OF ALL, VOX POP TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY RESIDENTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY AFFECT THEM, YOU KNOW, AND REVIEW THE IDEA. 
          IF IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, 3 MINUTES OR 2 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, LOOK, LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S STILL VIABLE. AND THEN JUST IS THERE A TOTAL LIMIT? WE COULD BE. I FOUND OUT THAT OTHER CITIES, PEOPLE JUST STORMED THE PLACE ALL SAY THE SAME THING FOR 20 MINUTES OR 3 MINUTES EACH, THREE MINUTES EACH, THREE MINUTES EACH. AND THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE HOURS OF VOX POP. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE MIGHT PUT A CAP ON HOW LONG VOX POP IS, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. THOSE THINGS. EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. OFFICER, COULD YOU HANDLE TAKE CARE OF THAT GENTLEMAN, PLEASE? COULD YOU ASK THAT GENTLEMAN TO LEAVE, PLEASE? COULD BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT MOVE. MAYOR. DO YOU WANT HIM OUT? YES. HE INTERRUPTED OUR MEETING. MR. MAYOR. I THINK A WARNING WOULD SUFFICE. NO, WE GAVE ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WITH DISABILITY POLICY. BUT THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE BEGINNING. INSTEAD OF A MOMENT, HE DID NOT SETTLE DOWN WHEN I HAMMERED. I UNDERSTAND, BUT INSTEAD OF A MOMENT OF SILENCE, YOU CHANGED THE PROCEDURE TO BE A PRAYER. SO PERHAPS HE DID NOT HEAR THE CIVILITY POLICY AND NEEDS A WARNING. MISTER MAYOR, I WOULD. 
          I WOULD MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND THE CIVILITY POLICY IN PLACE OF GIVING THIS GENTLEMAN A WARNING. 
          OH, WELL, I'LL SECOND THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. I THINK WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY MIGHT WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TAMPA AND OTHER PLACES WITH RESPECT TO. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD. WELL, IT'S YOUR DECISION AS TO WHETHER TO EXPEL SOMEBODY FROM THE MEETING. 
          I REALLY CAN'T WEIGH IN ON THAT. YOU. I MEAN, MY OPINION IS I THINK WE SHOULD WARN HIM. AND ANOTHER OUTBURST AND THEN HE'S OUT. OKAY, I THINK I DO THAT. YOU BETTER DO IT NOW BECAUSE CHIEF. CHIEF, WE'LL GIVE HIM A WARNING. BUT IF HE OPENS HIS MOUTH AGAIN, WE'LL ASK HIM TO LEAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO ANYHOW, MY OPINIONS ABOUT VOX POP IS JUST A SUGGESTION. IT'S NOT THE WAY I NECESSARILY WANT TO CHANGE IT, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK, BECAUSE I'VE LOOKED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY'VE CHANGED VOX POP SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CAN PARTICIPATE IN IT, CAN CAN TALK AS LONG AS THEY WANT. BUT I'M JUST LIKE SAYING IT CAN BE TAKEN OVER BY RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. SO IF THEY REALLY HELPING US TRY TO MOVE ON. SO ANYHOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. CAN I, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE? SO I DO, I DO THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TO A BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING, AND I DO LIKE A FEW THINGS THAT THEY DO DIFFERENTLY. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS GETTING PEOPLE TO COME DOWN TO THE FRONT ROW, SAY THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS, I FEEL THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT'S VALID. THEY'RE HERE, THEY WANT TO SPEAK. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL SIT OUT THERE AND THEY'LL LISTEN. AND AFTER THEY'RE HEARING OTHER COMMENTS, THEN THEY'RE DECIDING THEY WANT 
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TO SPEAK. AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S REPETITIVE. SO I, I AGREE WITH ASKING PEOPLE TO COME TO THE FRONT ROW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD WAY TO MOVE THE MEETING ALONG. NOT TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY THEIR AMPLE TIME TO SPEAK OR CUT THEIR TIME, BUT I THINK JUST SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, HEY, I'M HERE TO SPEAK. YOU COME UP AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN JACK RUNS HIS MEETING, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE FRONT ROW TO SPEAK, THAT'S IT. YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS UP HERE. SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY, MY LITTLE BIT OF $0.02 ON THAT, BUT THAT'S IT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.