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          JONAS HERE. COUNCILMAN MURPHY HERE. COUNCILMAN ALTMANN HERE. COUNCILMAN BUTLER HERE. CITY MANAGER. MANS HERE. PRESENTATION. WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING ON 
          [2.a) Presentation of Final Concept Design for the Recreation and Aquatic Center's Skate Park]
WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE A FINAL CONCEPT DESIGN FOR THE SKATE PARK AT THE RECREATION AND AQUATIC CENTER. AS YOU'RE AWARE FROM THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOPIC, WE WERE DUE TO LET A SURVEY TO GAIN SOME INPUT FROM SOME USERS OF THE FACILITY AND AND SPORTS ENTHUSIASTS THAT MIGHT PUT THIS SPACE TO USE. AND WE DID LET A SURVEY AND WE RECEIVED 172 RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY, WHICH IS JUST OUTSTANDING. AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE THE BETTER SURVEY RESULTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO A QUESTION. SO VERY PLEASED. THEY PROVIDED SOME GOOD DETAIL, SOME SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT THEY LIKED, SOME THINGS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE THAT RESPONDED TOLD US A STORY THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO FOCUS ON ALL THE DIFFERENT WRITING STYLES, BECAUSE THE PARK WILL BE USED PRINCIPALLY BY SKATEBOARDERS, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO RELY ON THE SPACE AS WELL, AND THAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE ALL DIFFERENT OR WRITING STYLES AND SKILL LEVELS FOR A WIDE RANGE OF USERS. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE THAT TIME WITH THE DESIGNER TO REFLECT THOSE COMMENTS. IN ADDITION TO UTILIZING SOME GREEN SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE EVENT TYPE SEATING. 
          AND WE ALSO WANTED IT AT COUNCILMAN ALTMAN'S SUGGESTION TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL OF USING THE STORMWATER RETENTION POND THAT'S IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY FOR USE AS SOME ADDITIONAL LAND OR SOME INTERMINGLING OR MOVING THE BOWL ALSO. AND SO WE'VE WE'VE EVALUATED THAT. AND TONIGHT WE'RE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION AND A PRESENTATION THAT WE WANT TO GET SOME INPUT FROM YOU ON. AND THE PLATFORM GROUP IS HERE. AND WE'LL SPEAK TO. THE MATTER. I WAS HOPING WE'D HAVE LIKE SOME SOME LET'S JUST PULL A CHAIR UP FOR THEM, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. GOOD TO SEE YOU. AND SO WE'LL FOLLOW THEIR POWERPOINT. YOU READY? YEAH. I'M GOOD TO GO. YEAH. OKAY. 
          COOL. ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. WELL HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. BYRON HUBBARD WITH PLATFORM GROUP. AND LIKE MRS. MANN MENTIONED. YEAH. SO WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT FROM THE SURVEY AND HAD A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK. THE GENERAL CONSISTENCE OF IT WAS THAT IT WAS REALLY WELL RECEIVED. THE CURRENT DESIGN, THERE WERE COMMENTS RELATIVE TO CERTAIN FEATURES, SOME CHANGES TO CERTAIN FEATURES. AND THEN JUST LIKE MRS. MANN MENTIONED, THAT DEFINITELY WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO AS IT GETS BUILT AS FAR AS LIKE HEIGHTS OF CERTAIN FEATURES, WHETHER IT'S FLAT BARS OR THE A FRAME PYRAMID, AS WELL AS FOR THE BOWL, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE NOT JUST SKATERS, BUT EVERY OTHER RIDER AND DISCIPLINE. AND SO LET'S SEE WHAT WAS. SO THIS IS JUST A GENERAL SLIDE SAYING THAT WE KIND OF GOT THE RESULTS. SO HERE'S THE 72 172 RESPONSES THAT WE HAD RECEIVED. AND THE WAY THAT THE SURVEY BREAKS DOWN IS WE LIKE TO GET THE DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES SO WE UNDERSTAND WHO WE'RE ACTUALLY SPEAKING TO OR WHO'S SPEAKING TO US FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE GENERAL MAJORITY GROUP WAS SKATEBOARDING, BUT THEN YOUR NEXT ONE IN LINE WAS BMX, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE KIND OF FALLS IN LINE AFTER THAT. YOUR RIDERS OR YOUR 
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COMMUNITY, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE INTERMEDIATE TO ADVANCED LEVEL, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE YOU'LL START TO SEE SKATE PARK ETIQUETTE AS WELL AS LIKE NEWER, YOUNGER GENERATIONS COMING UP. 
          THAT TENDS TO ORGANICALLY HAPPEN. SO THAT'S PRETTY SICK. THE AGE GROUP, REALLY GOOD TO TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT AGES YOU ARE DEALING WITH, WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT WILL SPEAK TO THE REASONING FOR LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE HERE WE HAVE THE MAJORITY BEING 31 TO 50 OR 21 TO 50, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. AND THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU THESE GUYS AND GALS WORK DURING THE DAY, THEY NEED TO HAVE LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION, RIGHT? SO AND THEN THIS KIND OF FALLS IN LINE WITH THAT AS WELL. THE USE TIME IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE EARLY EVENING, LATE EVENING AND PROBABLY MORNING AFTERNOON. YOU'LL DEFINITELY SEE IT KIND OF GOES IN WAVES, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. THE, THE GENERAL PART OF IT, WE LIKE TO KNOW KIND OF IN AND AROUND THE AREA WHERE WE'RE GETTING RESPONSES FROM. SO WE ALWAYS ASK FOR THE ZIP CODE. AND THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THAT IN AND AROUND NEW PORT RICHEY. AND THEN HERE'S JUST SORT OF THE SUMMARIZATION OF IT. BUT LIKE WE SAID, IT WAS GENERALLY WELL RECEIVED. THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THOSE FEATURES, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT THEN ALSO JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO NOT ONLY SKATERS IN GENERAL, BUT EVERY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT'S GOING TO RIDE THIS. AND THEN WE ALWAYS PROVIDE THE RAW DATA BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE. NOT GREAT WITH THE TEXT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF WHITE OUT. WAS THERE A POINTER ON THIS? OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. COOL. 
          SO FOR THE MOST PART, WE LOOKED AT THIS AREA HERE, ADDED IN A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE AND CHANGED THAT FEATURE AROUND. AND THEN WE ADDED A DECK TO THE BANK UP HERE. REALLY WHAT WE DID HERE WAS ACTUALLY JUST INCLUDED A SPINE RAMP BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS. I WANT TO SAY ONE, IT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THAT COMMENT CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY IN REGARDS TO AN EXISTING FEATURE THAT OCCURS ON THE SKATE PARK TODAY. SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK IN THERE. AND SO WE'VE GOT THIS SORT OF SPINE FEATURE THAT ALSO IS ADJACENT, ANOTHER QUARTER PIPE, AND THEY JUST KIND OF BLEND INTO EACH OTHER. BUT THERE'S A DECK ON TOP OF THIS AS WELL WITH A WALLY FEATURE ON THE BACK SIDE. LET'S SEE. AND SO THERE'S KIND OF THAT PERSPECTIVE VIEW THAT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BETTER IMAGE OF THAT. THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE KIND OF LOOKED AT TO WAS ACCOMMODATING FOR EVENTS AND OPENING UP AREAS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE MORE SEATING. SO WE THREW IN SOME BLEACHERS. JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF WHERE THESE COULD OCCUR ON SITE. AND THIS WILL BE HAVE A, WILL HAVE A GRADUAL SLOPE UP FROM THE PARKING LOT AND HAVE ENOUGH SPACE ON THE BACK END OF THIS TRANSITION THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE BLEACHER SEATING AS WELL AS ACCESS IN AND AROUND IT. ANOTHER SPOT THAT WE LOOKED AT HERE WAS ALSO THIS SPOT HERE FOR THE BOWL. IF THERE'S A COMPETITION IN THE BOWL, NOW YOU'VE GOT AN AREA JUST NEXT TO THAT. OUTSIDE OF THAT TOO, WE DID LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE AND DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH TOO MUCH THERE. BUT WHAT WE CAN, WILL, WILL MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T MENTION THIS LAST TIME, BUT THIS HERE IS ARTIFICIAL TURF. SO ANYTHING INTERIOR TO THE PARK IS GOING TO BE KEPT UP SO THAT IT ALLEVIATES ANY KIND OF MULCH OR SOIL ACCESS ONTO THE PARK AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO WE DO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE THINGS. AND THEN THESE ARE JUST UPDATED VIEWS TO SHOW THAT FEATURE IN THE BACKGROUND WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE SPINE, THE WALL RIDE, AND THERE'S SORT OF A RAILING ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WE STILL HAVE THE UPDATED BUDGET, AND BASED ON THE CHANGES FROM WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, IT'S A PRETTY MUCH A WASH. SO THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, AS WE SHIFTED LANDSCAPE THINGS AROUND AND THEN OTHER HARDSCAPE FEATURES. SO FOR THE MOST PART, BUDGET IS STILL INTACT AS IS. AND THEN NEXT STEPS WE'LL GET INTO WOULD BE GETTING THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS GOING, SURVEY AND CIVIL ENGINEER ON BOARD TO HELP PUSH THIS ALONG. AND AS WE DO THAT, WE DO HAVE INTERVALS WHERE WE REVIEW WITH THE CITY BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO IN TO SUBMIT FOR PERMIT, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S KIND OF BUTTONED UP. ALL THE I'S ARE DOTTED AND T'S ARE CROSSED. AND THEN WHEN WE JUMP INTO PERMITTING, USUALLY THIS ONE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SORT OF A NET INCREASE OF, OF PERVIOUS 
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AREAS SO OR IMPERVIOUS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO STATE. AND THAT LEAD TIME GENERALLY IS ABOUT A MONTH. BUT I'VE SEEN IT GO LONGER. SO BUT THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT PHASE, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO RIGHT INTO THE BUILD. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? GO BACK TO ONE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE FENCE BEHIND THE BOWL. RIGHT THERE. IS THAT ENOUGH SPACE FOR THAT FENCE TO BE IN THE BOWL, IN THE BOWL, IN BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE BOWL? I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE BASKETBALL COURTS. WELL YEAH. WHAT WHAT YOU KNOW THE FENCE FOR THE BASKETBALL. I MEAN I'M JUST WONDERING YEAH THE BOWL. IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE. NO NO YOU'RE GOOD. IT'S IT'S ABOUT EIGHT FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THAT FENCE TO THE EDGE OF THE COPING. YEAH. SO YOU'VE. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. THE RENDERINGS DEFINITELY ARE KIND OF HARD TO TELL. SO ANOTHER QUESTION IS THERE WAS CONCERNS BROUGHT UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TREES DROPPING BERRIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO I'M ASSUMING WHATEVER TREES OR BUSHES WE'RE GOING TO USE ARE NOT GOING TO DROP ANYTHING ON THE, ON THE ON THE COURT THIS WAY. NOBODY'S GOT TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HITTING ONE OF THOSE AND YEAH, FALLING. YEAH. SO PALMS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO OPERATE BETTER THAN TREES. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE LOCATED PALMS IN THIS. YOU HAVE A FEW EXISTING TREES THAT I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT. I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT TAKING AWAY. 
          THEY'RE NOT RIGHT ON THE COURT, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME LEAF DROP FROM THERE. BUT THE PALMS, THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO TRIM THE FLOWERS BEFORE THEY FRUIT. RIGHT? YEAH. SO SO YOU SHOULD NOT SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS MAINTENANCE IS UP KEPT. IT'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. 
          MR. MAYOR. I'M SORRY. WERE YOU DONE RESPONDING TO THE QUESTION, BYRON? YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE, ACTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SO ARE WE GOING TO FENCE THIS IN OR ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE IT UNFENCED? UNFENCED. OKAY, SO NO FENCING. AND IS LIGHTING FIGURED INTO THIS BUDGET, OR IS THAT SEPARATE LIGHTING IS A SEPARATE COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT AND IT'S AND REALLY THE CHANGES BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE DETECTED FROM THE SURVEY RESULTS, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SKATING VERY LATE IN THE DAY AND INTO THE NIGHT. AND OUR, OUR LUX THERE OF LIGHTING ISN'T REALLY HIGH ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE TYPE OF SITE THAT THEY SHOULD BE ENJOYING. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD ADD LIGHTING THERE, STAY WITH THAT, STAY WITH THAT. IS THERE GOING TO BE A SINCE WE'RE NOT HAVING FENCE TO DICTATE BEING OPEN OR BEING CLOSED, THE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE A FACTOR OF WHEN THEY'RE OPEN AND CLOSED. YES, THEY WILL BE ON A TIMER. THE LIGHTS WILL. AND SO WHEN THAT WE CONTROL. RIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW. OTHER THING IN REFERENCE TO THE FENCE, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT MAYBE DOING THE FENCE WHERE THE PARK BUTTS UP TO THOSE RESIDENTS. ARE WE STILL GOING TO DO WE NEED TO IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, CONTACT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND MAKE SOME SUGGESTS THAT WE MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THEY HAVE A BETTER BUFFER FROM NOISE AND LIGHT. AND SO WE WOULD BE PROPOSING A NEW FENCE AND SOME LANDSCAPING ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THEIR PROPERTY. THE. THE LIGHTING CAN, IN TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY CAN BE DIRECTED MORE DIRECTED THAN IT USED TO BE. WE SHOULD CONSULT OUR ELECTRIC GUY CAN BE DONE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO PRESENT. WE JUST REALLY WANTED TO GET A REACTION SO THAT WE CAN GAUGE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN RESPECT TO THE DESIGN OR GOING FORWARD. I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE THE SEATING. I THOUGHT I SAW LIKE A COUPLE OF BENCHES. BENCHES. YEAH. I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE TALKING? WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T REALLY HONE IN ON THAT DETAIL THAT'S BEING SHOWN TO YOU REALLY TO IDENTIFY THE SPACE THAT WE WOULD DEDICATE FOR USE OF SEATING. AND WE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE AREA THAT SPANS THE WEST PERIMETER OF THE PROGRAM PROPERTY. SO JUST AROUND THE CORNER, AND IT WOULDN'T JUST BE BENCH SEATING, IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE EVENT STYLE. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE A BLEACHER. YEAH. RIGHT THERE ON THAT BOWL SIDE YOU 
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HAVE BLEACHERS. ARE THEY PICNIC BENCHES THERE OR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE PICNIC TABLES? THOSE ARE PICNIC TABLES, NO. ARE THEY PERMANENT OR ARE THEY? YOU'VE GOT A BIG EVENT COMING HERE WHICH YOU MIGHT BE. SWITCH THEM OUT FOR MORE BLEACHERS. WE HAD ANTICIPATED THAT THEY'D BE PERMANENT. I MIGHT JUST DO HALF AND HALF THEN JUST BECAUSE IF WE DO GROW AN EVENT, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THE PEOPLE? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON BLEACHERS IN THE BASKETBALL COURT. I'M JUST ASKING. YEAH, WE HAD IN MIND THE WEST AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT COULD ACCOMMODATE SEATING. AND ONCE WE GET TO PLANS AND SPECS, WE CAN FURTHER DEVELOP THAT AND DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE SEATING EQUIPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE. I JUST THINK WITH WITH WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM ALL OVER AND MAYBE EVEN EVENTS HERE. 
          SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR MORE BLEACHER SEATING. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS I DON'T WANT TO DETER YOUNG KIDS FROM COMING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THESE GUYS WHO ARE SKATING, YOU KNOW, HAVE CHILDREN. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEIR WIVES ARE GOING TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH THE KIDS. SO BLEACHERS PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO BE SUPER CONDUCIVE FOR HAVING KIDS THERE HANGING OUT WHILE THEY'RE SKATING. RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, I DEFINITELY THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE A FEW, YOU KNOW, PICNIC TYPE BENCH SETUPS. THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF IT WAS MOBILE OR NOT. RIGHT. INSTEAD OF PERMANENT, MAYBE, MAYBE THE MAYBE THE MOBILE TYPE THING MIGHT BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE THERE ON THE ON THE RIGHT BASKETBALL SIDE. IF COUNCIL MENTIONED IN YOUR INTRODUCTORY REMARKS THAT THERE WAS SOME THINGS YOU LOOKED AT, BUT YOU DIDN'T GIVE ANY COMMENTARY ABOUT THEM. AND I WOULD SAY IF THERE IS AN EVENT OR IF THERE IS STRONG USAGE AND PEOPLE HANGING OUT AND YOU STAY FOR 2 OR 3 HOURS, THE RESTROOM FACILITIES BECOMES AN ISSUE. I KNOW FOR A PICKUP BASKETBALL GAME OR COMING IN AND SPENDING A LITTLE TIME THERE, GOING INTO THE REC CENTER, I GUESS IS AN OPTION. BUT ANY ANY RESPONSES TO ANY OF THE IDEAS I HAD MENTIONED, INCLUDING IF THIS IS POPULAR AND YOU TRY TO GROW IT, IT'S GOT NOWHERE TO GROW. SO I HAD A I HAD SUGGESTED A POTENTIAL ANOTHER SITE, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUS AS I AM TO SEE THIS THING GET UNDERWAY, BUT ANY ANALYSIS OF ANY OF THAT, I THINK THE SENIOR CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, AT ONE POINT, I THINK YEARS AGO, WE MIGHT HAVE DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE A YOUTH ORIENTED RECREATION FACILITY IF WE HAD A PLACE TO MOVE THE THE CLINIC THAT'S THERE. SO AS I LOOK AT IT, I KNOW YOU HAVE A PROJECT. I KNOW YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD. YOU DID THE SAME WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT. I HAD ASKED FOR US TO DO LIKE SOME MASTER PLANNING OF THE SITE. BUT YOU KNOW, MY MY COMMENT WOULD BE, THIS IS IT. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. IT'S NICE, PROBABLY BE WELL USED, BUT I DON'T SEE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN FOR A BIG TOURNAMENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OCALA PROGRAM AND THE BIG GATE THAT SAYS WELCOME TO THE SKATEBOARD PARK AND TURNING IT INTO AN ACTUAL ATTRACTION, IT'S IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND IF THAT'S. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN ASPIRE. YOU ALL WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ME, BUT. ANY RESPONSE TO. IN RESPONSE TO WHAT COUNCILMAN ALTMAN'S QUESTIONS. ONE. WE DID NOT FULLY ANALYZE SITE ALTERNATIVES AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE PREPARED TO DO SO IF THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION. THE OTHER MATTER RELATED TO THE STORMWATER RETENTION POND, I DID PREPARE A BIT OF A BRIEF TO YOU BASED ON SOME RESEARCH THAT MR. MUELLER HAD PREPARED, AND IT GOT OUT VERY LATE THIS WEEK. 
          SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN IT YET, BUT MR. MUELLER CAN PRESENT THE INFORMATION JUST AS WELL. NOW, TO FULLY RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. SO THANK YOU, MISS MANSON. WE DID JUST A KIND OF A BRIEF ANALYSIS OF THAT AREA, THE STORMWATER RETENTION POND, AND A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOTED FROM LOOKING AT SOME OF THE HISTORICAL FLOWS AND SOME OF THE TOPOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION, WAS THAT IT DOESN'T JUST SERVICE THE AREA OF THE REC CENTER, BUT THAT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO FLOW INTO THAT. AND IT KIND OF TIES INTO OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM 
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AS A WHOLE. SO THAT WOULD REALLY BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO CALCULATE, YOU KNOW, TO FIND OUT IF IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR A TEN YEAR, 100 YEAR KIND OF EVENT. ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S SOME GEOTECHNICAL TESTING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO CONDUCT IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT POTENTIAL ISSUES MAY LIE WITHIN THAT REGION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS AS WELL IS KIND OF LIKE ANYBODY WHO KNOWS WHEN THEY PUT IN A POOL ANYWHERE IN FLORIDA, YOU HAVE THAT HYDROSTATIC PRESSURE THAT CAN POP THAT ENTIRE THING OUT. SO WE RUN INTO THAT ISSUE AS WELL. AND LASTLY, AND I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL TALKING TO BYRON ABOUT IT. BUT IF YOU DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE ROUTE TO GO, IT DOES KIND OF THROW OFF THE NUMBERS TO A REALLY PARTICULAR DEGREE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE AN ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT WATER TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH IT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. AND IT'S, IT'S A GOSH, WHAT WAS THE, THE, THE BASALT? YEAH, THE VOLCANIC BASALT. AND SO THAT, THAT KIND OF INCREASES THE COST OF THAT, YOU KNOW, 15 TO 30% OR SO ON JUST DEVELOPING A BOWL. SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MY ULTIMATE CONCLUSION ON THAT WAS JUST THAT THE AMOUNT THAT MAY BE NECESSARY TO BETTER ASCERTAIN AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE USAGE OF THAT SITE MAY NOT PROVIDE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, OR GIVE YOU A BENEFIT SO THAT THE COST BENEFIT ON IT MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, OUTWEIGH THE TYPICAL USAGE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED. THE OTHER QUESTION WAS THE THE HILL RIGHT OFF OF. VAN BUREN. AND I'M GOING OFF OF JUST KIND OF SOME HISTORICAL MEMORY REAL QUICK. I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT IN TIME THAT WAS UTILIZED, I WANT TO SAY BY THE FIRE STATION, I COULD BE WRONG FOR OUR THERE. 
          YEAH. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE UNDER THE GROUND TO THAT AS WELL, AND WOULD REQUIRE KIND OF THAT SAME LEVEL OF ANALYSIS. OKAY. SO IF YOU DIRECT US TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE SITES, THERE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY FRONTING. WHAT'S THE REAR ENTRY? I CAN'T REMEMBER INDIANA, INDIANA AVENUE THAT IS FOR SALE AND IT'S ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY. 
          I SAW THAT AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY AT ALL, NOT AT THE CURRENT TIME. AND JUST AS A REMINDER TO YOU, WE ARE USING PENNY FOR PASCO FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, AND MR. TRAPPE WILL BE LOOKING FOR SOME GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL ONCE WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG IN DESIGN THAT WE'LL BE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME GRANTS. CONSIDERATION. YOU BROUGHT UP REAL, REAL, REAL SHORT THING ABOUT THE BATHROOMS, BUT WITH THE HOURS THAT YOU'RE POSSIBLY STAYING IN IN THE EVENING WITH THE REC CENTER CLOSING, WHAT ABOUT BATHROOMS IN THAT AREA? I CAN I CAN ANSWER THAT. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO RESTROOMS. THIS INDIVIDUAL AND THOSE ARE OPEN AT ALL TIMES. THE FACILITY AND THE BASKETBALL COURTS CLOSE AT THE SAME TIME. SO THE LIGHTS GO OFF AT TEN AND THE FACILITY CLOSES AT TEN. THE WEEKENDS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO WE COULD ZONE IN ON THAT. BUT STAFF DOES THEIR ROUNDS TO KEEP THOSE BATHROOMS OPEN. IT'S AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FACILITIES. SO IT'S JUST ONE SINGLE. SO IT'S A MALE AND A FEMALE RESTROOM, BUT WE WOULD ENSURE IT STAYS OPEN DURING THE TIME OF THE SKATE PARK AS WELL. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MATT. I'M GOOD FROM THE ELECTRICAL. YEAH, I WOULD I WOULD FAVOR LOOKING AT THE INDIANA SITE SIZE WISE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IF SOMETHING'S POPULAR AND EVERYONE KICKS HIMSELF BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE ROOM FOR EXPANSION, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. THEY'LL LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST I MEAN, WE'RE STILL BACK INTO A RESIDENTIAL SITUATION, WHICH I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOUTH SIDE OF INDIANA IS ALL RESIDENTIAL. SO I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM TRYING TO PUT IT THERE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THAT ACCESSING THE PROPERTY FOR THE REC CENTER AND DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE MIGHT PURCHASE THAT FOR OUR OWN, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE SKATEBOARD PARK. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE PROPERTY IN INDIANA IS NOW YOU'RE JUST GETTING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE AQUATIC AND REC CENTER. SO IT JUST MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO GET TO THE BATHROOMS. SO I JUST HAVE A FEELING IF WE END UP PUSHING IT THAT FAR AWAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING TO PUT BATHROOMS OUT THERE. WELL, I'M GOOD WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO FLESH OUT. I DON'T, I, I AGREE, I MEAN, LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. MY ONLY THING IS I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO SMALL. I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO BIG, BUT I WANT TO BE IN THE SWEET SPOT 
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BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO OVER IMPROVE IT OR UNDER IMPROVE IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE POTENTIAL IS TO USE THIS FOR EVENTS. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW OFTEN IS THAT GOING TO BE USED FOR EVENTS? I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DAILY USE AND IT'S GOING TO BE EVENT USE. BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF OF EVENTS. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I HAD A LITTLE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COUNCIL OVER AT ZEPHYRHILLS WITH THEIR PARK. AND THEY'RE IT'S MORE IT'S MORE INDIVIDUAL USAGE, YOU KNOW, GROUPS OF PEOPLE GOING THERE AND USING IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A MATTER OF IF WE PROMOTE IT TO BE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE KIND OF PUT SOME FEELERS OUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE TOURISM SIDE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING. 
          YOU KNOW, I LET THEM KNOW THE POTENTIAL BECAUSE TO ME, IF WE CAN BRING SOME, YOU KNOW, EVENTS HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL THE MORE. I'M GOOD THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS PATEL, I SEE HIM. YEAH. I THINK THE SURVEY RECEIVED AN OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE RESPONSE. THERE WAS 67% OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO LIKE THIS SPOT, WHO LIKE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. SOME PASSIONATE PLEAS FOR SOME TWEAKS WHICH WERE COUNTED IN THE UPDATED DRAWINGS OR, EXCUSE ME, THE UPDATED CONCEPT. THERE WAS A BIT OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BUFFER, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I REITERATE THAT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER WHERE JUST JUST LEFT TO THE OR ON HERE, JUST RIGHT TO THE THE BOWL THAT I THINK THAT CORNER IS GOING TO BE THE MOST PROBLEMATIC WHEN IT COMES TO BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES. SO JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE NECESSARY LANDSCAPING THERE. I DO THINK TO MR. JONAS'S POINT, THIS IS THE RIGHT SIZE. IT'S NOT TOO BIG, IT'S NOT TOO SMALL. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO A DAILY USE THAN IT IS AN EVENT. BUT OUR STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE IS THAT WE ARE PARTNERED WITH A GROUP THAT DOESN'T JUST DO CONSTRUCTION, BUT DOES EVENTS SO THEY CAN FIND THE APPROPRIATE EVENTS IN THE FUTURE THAT MEET THIS SPACE. IF IF THAT ORGANIZATION IS INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THE PARTNERSHIP JUST BEYOND THIS DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. THAT ALL SAID, I DO THINK THIS IS MORE OF AN UPDATE THAN IT IS AN EXPANSION. THIS IS AN UPDATE OF AN EXISTING SKATE PARK. IT'S GETTING IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR A GENERATION THAT'S BEEN WAITING FOR A WHILE FOR IT TO GET THERE. AND JUST AGAIN, TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE WORK THEY'VE PUT IN TO SUPPORT THE NECESSARY INFORMATION WE'VE ACQUIRED ON OUR SIDE. THANK YOU. I THINK THE SURVEY WAS WILDLY SUCCESSFUL AND ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WAS ESPECIALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT MANY OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE FROM HERE LOCALLY. THEY IDENTIFIED BEING IN OUR ZIP CODES, SO IT WASN'T LIKE WE HAD SOME OUTSIDERS WHO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE PARK, BUT THEN DON'T BECAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL AND TOO FAR OF A COMMUTE. WE HAD PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE OF MULTIPLE GENERATIONS WHO WHO WILL BE UTILIZING THE SPACE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT. I ADMIRE THE THE IDEA OF CONSIDERING MOVING IT OR FINDING A LARGER SITE FOR IT, BUT I THINK IN THIS PART OF THE PROCESS WHERE WE'VE KIND OF COMMITTED TO THIS SITE, IT'S TIME TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. AND THERE IS A FUTURE FOR THAT BUILDING AND THE ACROSS FROM THE REC CENTER, THE WHAT WAS THE, THE, THE, THE FREE HEALTH CLINIC. THANK YOU. I DO THINK THERE IS A FUTURE FOR THAT BUILDING THAT IS NOT ITS CURRENT USE. SO I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN ALTMAN'S COMMENTS AND, AND WANTING TO START LOOKING INTO THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S GOING TO BECOME ESSENTIAL AS WE WE MOVE FORWARD AND NOT A COMMENT OF THE A PROPERTY FOR SALE UNRELATED TO THE SKATE PARK. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY FITS INTO WHAT WE ALREADY WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. I MEAN, A LOT OF THAT, THERE'S A SHED OVER THERE ALREADY THAT CITY OWNS. THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF SPACE USED FOR PUBLIC. AND THEN ANYTHING BEHIND THAT'S USED FOR PARKING. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE COULD FIT INTO THIS SITE OTHER THAN THE UNDERUTILIZED FREE CLINIC SPACE. BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANKS AGAIN, THE STAFF, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I COULD ADD ONE THING. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SKATEBOARDERS, I THINK WAS THE BMX BIKERS. AND SO THAT BEING SAID, NOTHING WOULD STOP US FROM HAVING A BMX TRACK WHERE THE BICYCLES COULD RIDE. AND MAYBE THAT HILL IS AN IDEAL SPOT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, I. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A SUFFICIENT FOR BMX. I MEAN, I COULD ASK YOU THAT QUESTION, BUT I DON'T SEE A BUNCH OF BICYCLES AND SKATEBOARDERS GOING ON THERE AT THE SAME TIME ON THIS FACILITY. YEAH. I THINK YOU COULD TOTALLY ACCOMMODATE MULTIPLE 
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DEMOGRAPHICS AT A TIME. AND BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND. IF YOU DO SEE THAT THE POPULATION OUTGROWS THIS SPACE, THAT DEFINITELY LOOK AT OTHER SITES FOR OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES, WHETHER IT'S ANOTHER PARK IN GENERAL, BUT PROVIDING ANOTHER PUMP TRACK, A MINI RAMP SOMEWHERE AROUND TOWN, YOU KNOW, OTHER TYPES OF FEATURES THAT ACTUALLY ACT A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST, RATHER THAN JUST LOOKING AT ONE PLACE AND TRYING TO EXPAND THAT FOOTPRINT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THAT'S IT. SO I'M ASSUMING WE GOT TO HAVE LIKE WATER OUT THERE LIKE A WATER FOUNTAIN, WHATNOT. WHERE, WHERE IS THAT POTENTIALLY PLANNED TO BE LOCATED? WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT GENERALLY WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT WATER SERVICE WE HAVE AVAILABLE CLOSE BY. AND WE'LL PROBABLY TRY TO FIND THE BEST SPOT. BUT I MEAN, OFF THE TOP OF THE CUFF, THIS GENERAL AREA, OR IF YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO LOCATE SOMETHING ALONG THE ENTRANCE HERE THAT MIGHT BE BETTER BECAUSE IT'S ALSO ACCESS TO THE BASKETBALL COURT? YEAH. AND I WILL ADD, WE DO HAVE A WATER FOUNTAIN OUT THERE RIGHT NOW JUST BY THE RESTROOMS. AND WE ARE PLANNING TO ACTUALLY IT'S IN WHAT I CALL THE CUBBY. WE'RE GOING TO LITERALLY MOVE THAT OUT SO IT CAN BE ACCESSIBLE RIGHT NEXT TO THE BATHROOM. SO AT A MINIMUM, WE'LL HAVE IT RIGHT THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, TRUTHFULLY. BUT EVEN GETTING IT CLOSER, AS HE MENTIONED, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL. WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WITH THE WATER FOUNTAIN, WHEREVER WE PUT IT NEAR THERE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT LIKE SIMS PARK BE INTEGRATED WITH DOG BOWL. SO THIS WAY, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WALK AROUND THE PARK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE. WE'RE PROVIDING WATER FOR THE DOG AS WELL. SO JUST JUST FORWARD THINKING A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S ALL. I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. DO YOU WANT US TO SAY LET'S GO FOR IT? I SAY WE MOVE FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY THE DIRECTION. YEAH. BUT WE OF COURSE CAN'T VOTE AT A WORK SESSION. BUT. AT A CONSENSUS. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT EVERYBODY BUT MATT. OH THERE YOU GO. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. WELL WE KNOW WHAT TO DO. THANK YOU. 
          THEN FROM HERE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO REPORT TO YOU ON THE STATUS AND BRING BACK APPRECIATE ALL I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS COMING AND GIRLS COMING HERE AND BACKING AND SUPPORTING THIS PROGRAM. THANK YOU. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE 172 OF YOU, BUT 40 OF YOU ARE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GUYS AND GIRLS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.