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YES. OKAY. YOU'RE GETTING A TEAM. GOOD. OKAY. YOU WANT FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE CRA, WE GOT
[1) Call to Order - Roll Call]
FOUR THINGS. LET'S JUST. OKAY, I'M JUST ASKING. ROLL CALL. ARE WE ALL HERE? CHAIRMAN DAVIS? EXCUSE ME. DIRECTOR. JONAS HERE. DIRECTOR. MURPHY. DIRECTOR. ALTMAN. DIRECTOR. BUTLER HERE.[2) Approval of Minutes]
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. MANNS. CITY ATTORNEY. DRISCOLL. HERE. APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 4TH MEETING AND AUGUST 10TH MEETING. I SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I I I CONSENT AGENDA.[3) Consent Agenda]
OKAY. FOR APPROVAL. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.[4.a) Memorandum of Understanding w/New Port Richey Main Street, Inc.]
AYE. OKAY. MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE NEW PORT RICHEY MAIN STREET. IN FRONT OF YOU IS TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH NEWPORT RICHIE MAIN STREET, RELATED TO THEIR OPERATION OF THE NATIONAL PROGRAM, AND IT IS IT FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, THE COMPENSATION TO THE MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION IS $12,500 PER QUARTER, AND WHICH IS $50,000 PER YEAR. THE AGREEMENT ALSO COVERS SOME REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO US IN TERMS OF THE FUNCTIONING OF THEIR VARIOUS SUBCOMMITTEES AND ACTIVITIES AT MEETINGS.WE'RE ASKING OR TRYING TO ENFORCE BY WAY OF THE AGREEMENT, THE FOUR POINT APPROACH STREET AND THOSE PRINCIPLES AND NEWPORT, RICHIE MAIN STREET HAS BEEN DOING A VERY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF KEEPING THOSE ITEMS UP TO DATE. AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. SPANNING THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? HI, MY NAME IS KIM BROSTE. I LIVE AT 6545 CIRCLE BOULEVARD AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF MAIN STREET, NEW PORT RICHEY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE'RE DOING THE BEST. I THINK WE'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AND WE'RE GETTING READY FOR FALL TO START. SO FOURTH FRIDAY STARTS AGAIN THIS MONTH. WE'VE GOT OUR MURDER MYSTERY, SO I WONDER WHO THE DEAD PERSON IS GOING TO BE. LOTS OF MUSIC, FUN FOOD AND FOURTH FRIDAYS GOING THROUGH UNTIL, LET'S SEE, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. WE TAKE A BREAK IN DECEMBER AND WE START BACK IN JANUARY. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I'LL BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A SECOND. THE MAKER. I JUST WANT TO THANK NEW PORT RICHEY MAIN STREET. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, REALLY ENJOYING ALL THE EVENTS. I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFO THAT YOU GUYS BRING BACK TO US, SO THANK YOU. SECOND, JUST A COLLABORATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME AND I THINK WE THE MAIN STREET HAS A BORDER THAT YOU HAVE TO STAY WITHIN FOR YOUR NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE CITY HAS A BIT OF AN EXTENDED AREA THAT WE WORK ON OR REDEVELOPMENT AREA CITYWIDE. SO I WOULD ASK ONLY THAT WE TAKE A LOOK DURING THE NEXT YEAR AT THE AT THE BOUNDARIES AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY AS WELL WITH OUR PLANNING, IF WE DO GET SUCCESS FROM OUR GRANT REQUEST OR IF NOT, IF WE DO IT ON OUR OWN, REALLY LOOKING AT OUR BOUNDARIES AGAIN. AND I WOULD FINALLY REQUEST THAT WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT SUCH AS THE CHASCO FIESTA, OR MAYBE A OR COULD BE THE BIKE FEST OR WHATEVER, THAT FALLS ON THAT FOURTH FRIDAY THAT LAST YEAR AT THE CHASCO, I THINK THERE WAS A REALLY DIFFICULTY IN HAVING THAT HAPPEN. AT THE SAME TIME, CONSIDERING ALL THE EFFORT THAT'S PUT ON BY THAT CHARITY AND THE AND THE TYPES OF FOLKS THAT GET TO COME OUT AND SET ON THE STREET WITH PROBABLY VERY SMALL PAYMENTS TO DO IT. SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU COOPERATE WITH THE CHASCO FIESTA AND THE OTHER GROUPS TO SEE HOW YOU CAN EITHER PARTICIPATE WITHIN IT, BUT I DID SEE SOME ISSUES LAST YEAR WITH SOME OF THE DATES THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T CROSS UP WITH THAT TIME FRAME. SECOND, THAT WAS THE SECOND. OH, OKAY. THANKS, MATT. NO, I, I KNOW THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB BECAUSE I CAN SEE IT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO
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SAY EVERY YEAR THE MAIN STREET EXCUSE ME, EVERY YEAR THE MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION IS BRINGING ON NEW EVENTS AND WAYS TO INVOLVE MORE PEOPLE IN OUR DOWNTOWN. AND THEY'VE WON AWARDS BECAUSE OF IT. THEY'VE HIGHLIGHTED GREAT PARTS OF OUR CITY. THEY'RE AN AMAZING PARTNER. TO TO THE CITY. AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THE SERVICE AGREEMENTS LIKE THESE ONES ARE CRUCIAL TO CONTINUE TO EXTEND THAT COLLABORATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I[4.b) Home Beautification Grant - Benson]
IT'S FIVE NOTHING HOME BEAUTIFICATION. GRANT BENSON, OUR FIRST APPLICANT FOR THE HOME BEAUTIFICATION GRANT. MR. GAMMON IS ANXIOUS TO PRESENT IT TO YOU THIS EVENING. OH, THAT WAS THE REASON WE WERE BRINGING IT FOR YOU. IT'S NOT A BIG ONE, BUT IT IS THE FIRST. WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND ONE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. SO IT IS MOVING FORWARD SLOWLY, BUT IT'S MOVING.THANK YOU. IS THERE A COMMENT? IS IT A VOTE OR IS IT. THAT'S IT. OH I'M DONE. YEAH. APPROVAL.
PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE. MOVE. APPROVAL. I'LL. SECOND SPEAKER FIRST. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT HAPPEN. MATT. I'M GLAD WE'RE GIVING BACK. YEAH. THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A HOMEOWNER THAT WANTS TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY. AND THE CITY IS PUTTING TAX DOLLARS BACK TO WORK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. A RESPONSIBLE HOMEOWNER THAT WANTED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE, BUT I DO. I AM GOING TO FOLLOW UP ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE THE IRRIGATION. I'M ASSUMING THE CRA JUST DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE FUNDED. BUT I DID NOTICE THAT WAS TAKEN OUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I. OKAY. I, I, I, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. THAT'S
[4.c) Reject all Proposals - RFP26-024 Real Estate Listing Agreement - Rivergate/Palm Properties]
FIVE NOTHING REJECT ALL PROPOSALS FOR THE REAL ESTATE LISTING AGREEMENT FOR RIVER GATE. OH I'M SORRY. PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M SORRY, MR. GAMMON. OH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.FELLOW DIRECTORS, PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO REJECT ALL PROPOSALS RECEIVED ON RFP 26024 SEEKING A REAL ESTATE LISTING AGENT FOR THE CRA OWNED PROPERTY IN RIVER RIVER GATE PALM AREA. YOU ALL KNOW THE AREA FIVE AND THREE QUARTER ACRE PROPERTY ASSEMBLAGE. WE RAN CONCURRENTLY TWO RFPS, ONE FOR A LISTING AGENT, A BROKERAGE TEAM TO MARKET THE PROPERTY. AND ALSO WE DID ONE TO SELECT A DEVELOPMENT ENTITY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND CONSTRUCT A DESIRED AND APPROVED PRODUCT. SO THAT ONE IS STILL APPLICABLE. THIS IS THE RANKING CRITERIA WE HAD IN THE RFP. THE PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENT LISTING EXPERIENCE AND KEY PERSONNEL. THAT WAS ABOUT 25%. AND WE ALSO HAD A DATABASE OF CLIENTS CAPABLE OF COMPLETING THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO ABOUT HALF OF THE CRITERIA WAS IF THEY COULD, IF THEY HAD EXPERIENCE AND THEY COULD BRING IN THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPER FOR IT, 10% FOR QUALITY MARKETING MATERIALS AND 40% FOR THEIR PROJECT APPROACH. HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. ACTUALLY, WE GOT FOUR PROPOSALS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY GOOD AND POSITIVE. UNFORTUNATELY, NONE OF THEM MET THE STANDARDS WE WERE SEEKING.
JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH ONE. THE FIRST ONE WAS EASILY RANKED NUMBER ONE. THAT'S CALLED COLLIERS. THEY'RE NUMBER ONE IN FLORIDA. COMMERCIAL LISTING AGENT. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE DATABASE. THEY DO DOZENS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF TRANSACTIONS LIKE THIS. THEY CAN CALL THESE DEVELOPERS ON THEIR PHONE EASILY. THE FORTUNATE THING ON THEIR PROPOSAL. AND THEY WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE ON IT WAS AN UNACCEPTABLE FEE STRUCTURE. WE JUST COULDN'T DO IT WITH THEM. SO WE HAD TO MOVE J AGAIN, NATIONAL NATIONAL LISTING AGENT, EXTENSIVE DATABASE. THEY'VE DONE THESE KIND OF TRANSACTIONS TO. THEY HAD A VERY SIMPLE FEE STRUCTURE WHICH WE LIKED ON THEIR CONCERNS PART. THEY JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE THEIR HEART IN IT. THEY DID IT THE LAST TIME THEY GAVE US A GOOD PROPOSAL, AND THIS TIME THEY JUST KIND OF DIDN'T GIVE IT. IT WAS INCOMPLETE PROPOSAL AND IT MADE US WORRIED. THE ONLY LOCAL ONE WE GOT WAS COMMERCIAL ASSET PARTNERS. THEY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD QUALITIES. I LIKE THE NAME THEY CAME UP WITH. I THOUGHT RIVERFRONT VILLAGE WAS A COOL NAME. THEY HAD A GOOD SIMPLE FEE STRUCTURE ON THE BAD SIDE HERE THEY HAVE VERY LIMITED, LARGE TRANSACTION EXPERIENCE, LIMITED DATABASE OF THE KIND OF DEVELOPERS WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT HERE. AND THEY'RE REALLY A MORE OF A LEASING COMPANY AND THE SALES COMPANY. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE, FLORIDA HOMES OUT OF JACKSONVILLE. THIS IS JUST NOT THEIR NICHE AT ALL. IN EVERY RFP WE HAVE IN THIS ONE, SPECIFICALLY PARAGRAPH 2.6, THE CRA ALWAYS RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT ANY AND ALL PROPOSALS. WE PUT THAT IN ALL RFP MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS THE TIMELINE AGAIN OF THOSE TWO RFP
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WE'VE GOT RUNNING. WE GOT THE PROPOSALS ON THE LISTING ON JULY 20TH, BUT WE STILL HAVE RUNNING THAT DEVELOPER ONE, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR PROPOSALS FOR ANOTHER MONTH. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, THE STAFF HAS BEEN MARKETING THE PROPERTY THROUGH THIS. WE'VE CONTACTED ABOUT 25 DEVELOPERS GETTING A LOT OF INTEREST ON IT. THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS, WE CAN ALWAYS REMARKET THIS IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. IT'S ONLY A MONTH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO REJECT ALL THE PROPOSALS AND TO CONTINUE THE MARKETING EFFORTS. PUBLIC INTEREST. HI, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN, MY NAME IS HEIDI TUTTLE BEISNER. I'M THE OWNER, PRESIDENT, BROKER OF COMMERCIAL. EXCUSE ME. IT'S PAST MY BEDTIME. COMMERCIAL ASSET PARTNERS REALTY. I'M A CITY RESIDENT AT 5444 BELLEVUE AVENUE. AND ALSO OUR COMPANY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY AT 5330 GEORGE STREET. I'VE BEEN A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR 33 YEARS, AND OUR COMPANY IS 20 YEARS OLD THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE BASED RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE CONCERNS WERE LISTED AND ALSO WHAT WAS HOW IT WAS HANDLED. THERE'S A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE THAT WAS GIVEN IN THE CRA WITH A JULY 31ST CHOSEN CANDIDATE, AND THEN TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT FINALIZED BY AUGUST 18TH. I FOLLOWED UP SEVERAL TIMES. I CALLED MR. GANNON ORIGINALLY IN THE QUESTION PERIOD, AND I EXPLAINED, I ASKED, WHY WAS THE BROKER AND THE DEVELOPER IN TWO DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES? WHY WERE THEY FOUR MONTHS APART? AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THAT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY SO THAT THE BROKER COULD NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. AND NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. I GOT AN EMAIL FROM MR. GANNON SAYING THAT THEY WERE JUST GOING TO REJECT ALL THE PROPOSALS. AFTER EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION, MISS MANN SAID THERE HAD BEEN NO DISCUSSION OF THE CRA BOARD, AND THAT WASN'T UNTIL TONIGHT WAS THIS PROPOSAL CONSIDERED. NOBODY EVER ASKED US ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE. I PERSONALLY WAS THE LISTING AGENT FOR THE PORT RICHEY ACREAGE THAT WAS SOLD FOR REDEVELOPMENT FOR GIL DOG THAT WAS MARKETED FOR TWO YEARS. I DEALT WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED DEVELOPERS. WE HAVE A DATABASE OF OVER 10,000 CLIENTS. AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE IN NEW PORT RICHEY. WE DO TREMENDOUS DEALS. WE'VE SOLD TWO OF THE LARGEST BUILDINGS IN THE CITY TWICE, MEADOW LANE OVER THERE ON THE CORNER OF MEADOW LANE AND GEORGE, WHERE BAYONET POINT PLUMBING, HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING IS, AND ALSO THE SCHOOL ROAD BUILDING, THE 300 ZERO SQUARE FOOT SCHOOL ROAD BUILDING THERE, RIGHT NEAR OUR OFFICE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE LEASING IS PART OF WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE'RE A FULL SERVICE REAL ESTATE COMPANY. BUT SALES IS DEFINITELY A BIG COMPONENT, AND REDEVELOPMENT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO. I EVEN SERVE ON A COUNTY REDEVELOPMENT OF US 19 BOARD. I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE PASCO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, VERY INVOLVED. SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT A BUSINESS WITHIN OUR CITY IS NOT BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN ONE THAT'S IN SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA OR NATIONAL. YOU DON'T NEED A NATIONAL. THIS IS NEW PORT RICHEY. WE'RE NOT TAMPA. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NO ONE ELSE, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE BIDS. SECOND. I'LL SECOND THE MAKER. YEAH. I MEAN, I VOTED AGAINST, I THINK, GOING OUT TO BID AT THE TIME, BECAUSE I'M REALLY A PROPONENT OF HAVING A MASTER PLAN. THE CITY HAS INJECTED NOT ONLY HAS REPLACED REALLY THE MONEY THAT WAS TO BE USED FOR STORMWATER ISSUES, BUT THAT STILL IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR. BUT WE HAVE ALSO NOW INVESTING MONEY IN THE ACORN STREET ADDITION AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT AND THE DESIGN OF THAT. SO THE LAST THING WE NEED IS JUST TO HAVE DEVELOPERS OF ANY TYPE TO TELL US WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S MIXED USE. WE KNOW WE'D LIKE SOME COMMERCIAL ON THE HIGHWAY. WE KNOW THERE'S SOME PARCELS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ASSEMBLED. TO HER CREDIT, OUR CRA DIRECTOR HAD TAKEN THE TIME TO CONTINUE TO ASSEMBLE MORE AND MORE LAND SO THAT IT CAN BE A MORE APPROPRIATE, WELL THOUGHT OUT AND STRUCTURED MIXED USE. AND[00:15:05]
SO WE DON'T NEED A PLUMBING STORE THERE. AND NO DISRESPECT HEIDI TO YOU, MISS TUTTLE, BUT YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED IS TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN ON THAT PROPERTY AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO. WE'VE HAD ARGUMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND LOCATION AND DESIGN, AND I'LL BRING MY DRAWING AGAIN TO SHOW YOU THE GREAT PICTURE I HAD DONE, ONLY TO SHOW YOU WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AND EVERYONE LOOKED AT THE COST OF THINGS. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RUSH AHEAD OF OUR CONCEPTUALIZING. AND I REJECT THE IDEA THAT THIS BOARD SHOULD BE AWARE OF EVERY.SHOULD THIS GROUP SHOULD BE KEPT, NOT PUBLICLY INFORMED AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO I BECAME AWARE THAT WE'VE. WE HEARD THAT WE HAD A A PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT THAT WE COULD BUY TO MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN ON THE RIVER. AND WE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE COME IN AND ARGUE, ARGUE ABOUT IT. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, I HEARD WE'VE LET THAT EXPIRE. SO. SO PLEASE STOP RUNNING THE CRA AND LET US RUN IT SO THAT WE CAN THEN GIVE YOU DIRECTION, BECAUSE THE DIRECTION NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING SPECIAL OUT THERE. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SIX PARCELS OR THE FOUR PARCELS. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE MY TIME TO DO THIS. RIGHT. I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET ALL ANXIOUS AND WE HAVE TO SELL IT. WE OWN THE PROPERTY, IT'S IN OUR NAMES. WHY AREN'T WE THE DEVELOPER? WHY DON'T WE TAKE OUR IDEAS AND PUT THEM TO PLAY OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE? WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ARCHITECT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BRING HERE? THEY CAME TO ONE MEETING. FACE THE AUDIENCE THE WHOLE TIME. NEVER TURNED AROUND TO US UNTIL WE ASKED HIM ABOUT AN IDEA THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HAD BEEN PERCOLATED PUBLICLY. SO THIS IS A JOYOUS TIME FOR THIS CITY TO HAVE ALL OF THE ASSETS AND THE RESOURCES WE HAVE. THIS IS A CHANCE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER TO BE WINNING MORE AWARDS, AND INSTEAD, I READ, YOU KNOW, COMMENTARY ABOUT CRA MEETINGS THAT ARE OCCURRING DURING A CONE OF SILENCE WHEN WE'RE VIOLATING RULES OF, OF PROCUREMENT. AND SO WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO STEP IT UP AND BE PROFESSIONAL BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHALLENGE US WHEN WE SEE AND READ INTERPRETIVE COMMENTARY THAT BELONGS TO US.
SO I DON'T WANT TO KEEP HEARING THAT. WE DECIDED THAT COLLIERS WAS TOO EXPENSIVE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE COST WAS. AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THEM, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING THAT MONEY TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO TALK TO US. PLEASE TREAT US LIKE ADULTS UP HERE AND STOP FEEDING US STUFF.
AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BECAUSE SOMEHOW YOU ALL HAVE FIGURED OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. IT'S WRONG. AND I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE SILENT ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND WE HAVE SMART PEOPLE UP HERE WHO HAVE DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS AND UNDERSTANDINGS. I DON'T NEED SOMEONE TO COME IN IN A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS OR TWO YEARS OR FIVE YEARS AND TELL ME, AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THIS CITY, HOW TO DO BUSINESS, WE'RE HIRING YOU. AND THAT'S OUR CITY MANAGER, WHO WE PAY $75,000 A YEAR TO MANAGE A $10 MILLION ANNUAL BUSINESS FOR US TO NOT MEET REGULARLY, NOT HAVE AGENDAS THAT ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND TO GET MEMOS AT THE END OF THE WEEK TELLING ME TO JUST DISPARAGE OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS BY MAKING COMMENTARIES ABOUT LIABILITIES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EXIST, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DIRECT US IN SOME FASHION. I'M SMARTER THAN THAT, AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ARE. PLEASE ALLOW US TO SET THE STAGE. WHERE'S WHERE'S THE CRA PLAN? WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS? STOP TELLING ME YOU'RE ALMOST FINISHED AND BRING IT TO ME. AND PLEASE LET US HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE THESE THINGS ARE. I'M INSPIRED TO BE IN A POSITION. I AM AT THIS PART OF MY LIFE, AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO HAVE IT.
ANYTHING LESS THAN THE BEST IT CAN BE. THAT'S. I'M SORRY, BUT THIS HAS BEEN BUILDING UP FOR ME FOR SOME TIME. WE'VE HAD A GROUP THAT'S OUT THERE STILL WITH A GREEN SHIRT, AND WE CONTINUE TO ACT LIKE THEY'RE NOT EVEN THERE, AND WE'LL DO SOME OF OUR OWN PLANNING AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT. WELL, THEY HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS AND THEY MAY NOT
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ALL COME TRUE, BUT IT'S TIME FOR US TO EMBRACE THE RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE AND STOP TREATING US AS A BOARD, TO PUT A RUBBER STAMP ON THE IDEAS THAT YOU ALL COOK UP. I MEAN, THAT'S A IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA TO STOP THE RIVER. GOD FORBID THE BOATS ARE OUT IN THE GULF WHEN THE STORM COMES IN, AND THEY'VE GOT TO TRY TO GET IN AND THE GATES ARE LOCKED. I MEAN, THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN SPENDING YOUR TIME ON, AND HOW MUCH TIME HAVE YOU ALL TALKED TO US AT A MEETING WHEN WE'RE NOT RUSHED, MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST 10:00 AT NIGHT. AND I'M I'M TELLING YOU, WE NEED SEPARATE MEETINGS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. AND IF WE CAN'T HAVE A SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT CONVERSATION AS A CRA WITH A $10 MILLION BUDGET, THEN I'M SORRY, WE'RE BEING WE'RE BEING UNDERSERVED. DONE A SECOND. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, PETER. I MEAN, IT'S WE DO NEED TO PUT MORE TIME INTO THE CRA. YOU KNOW, I DO FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE KIND OF JUST RUSH THROUGH IT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND MAYBE WE DON'T GET ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO ASK FOR THIS. WE NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT, JUST LIKE YOU DID TONIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A FEW FRIENDS IN SOME OTHER CITIES AROUND HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST TALKING GENERALIZED THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS TELLING ME HOW THEIR CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE CONTROL OF PROPERTIES LIKE WE DO. AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS THAT WE HAVE ASIDE FROM OUR RIVER. AND I FEEL WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. BUT I FEEL SOMETIMES OUR YOU KNOW, OUR GENERAL MEETINGS OF RUNNING THE CITY KIND OF OVERSHADOW OUR PROPERTY. AND I JUST AND I REALLY DO FEEL THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT. I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, TONS OF GROUPS OUT THERE WANTING TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS IN THIS CITY. AND I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE ESTABLISH SOME MORE WORK SESSIONS WITHIN OUR CRA TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS OUTSIDE OF OUR PHYSICAL MEETING, YOU KNOW, SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DIRECT DEBBIE TO DO, THEN WE NEED TO DO THAT. BUT I DEFINITELY FEEL THAT IF WE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE PARCELS AND USE THEM TO THE CITY'S ADVANTAGE, WE'RE GOING TO END UP LOSING OUT MY FEAR AND I'LL END IT AT THAT. MATT. YEAH, I MEAN, I AGREE, I DON'T DISAGREE. I JUST THINK IT'S A MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, CAREFUL OF HOW WE DEVIL INTO BECOMING DEVELOPERS VERSUS HIRING DEVELOPERS, WHAT, WHAT WE THINK WILL WORK. OR OUR IDEA MAY NOT NECESSARILY WORK IN THE ECONOMIC SIDE OF IT. YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE JUST HAVE TO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT ALL THE TIME. JUST BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY GOING TO WORK FINANCIALLY, YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A BALANCE. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IT MORE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, PROPOSE PROPOSALS COME THROUGH AND WE DON'T LIKE IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT, YOU KNOW, AND GO ALONG WITH IT. BUT WE CAN'T BE NEGOTIATING THEM IF WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE IS MY POINT. YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH FOLKS AND DEVELOPING IDEAS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, THAT I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT. CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS? NO, NO. ARE YOU DONE? YEAH. THAT'S FINE. YEAH I'M DONE. I KNOW WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP THERE WAS NO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, NO RFP.IT WAS THE REASON WAS GIVEN WAS EVERYTHING FROM IRAN TO JUST THE LOCAL HEAT OF THINGS. THIS ROUND THERE ARE SOME RFPS. SO THAT'S PROGRESS IN MY MIND. I BELIEVE IN THE MARKET, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IDEAS CAN BE GENERATED ON THAT SIDE, AND ARGUABLY THEY SHOULD BE GENERATED ON THAT SIDE. HOWEVER, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN ALTMAN, IF WHEN THE IDEAS ARE GENERATED AND BECAUSE WE DID APPROVE A CRITERIA AND WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO DECIPHER THOSE, I DID I DID HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE SECOND RFP WHERE BASICALLY JUST SAID, WELL, THERE WE DIDN'T FEEL CITY STAFF DIDN'T FEEL OR IN THIS CASE, WHOEVER REVIEWED THOSE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY WERE IN IN IT. WELL, I NEED I PERSONALLY NEED MORE THAN THAT. AND SO TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT, I, MY KNEE JERK REACTION IS, OKAY, WELL THEN LET'S GO THE MASTER PLAN ROUTE.
BUT I STILL GENUINELY BELIEVE THAT THIS NEEDS TO ORIGINATE IN THE MARKET. AND THIS NEEDS TO
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BE A PARTNERSHIP. AND MR. MURPHY'S POINT, WE SHOULD NOT BE THE DEVELOPERS, BUT ON THE SAME TIME, THEN THAT MEANS WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEASH IN BEING ABLE TO SEE THESE PROPOSALS AND, AND MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS OURSELVES, AND PERHAPS AT A DIFFERENT CRA MEETING WHEN IT'S NOT 1030 AT NIGHT, WE NEED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE EXPECTATIONS AS A AS A BOARD, BECAUSE THE STAFF'S POINT AND TO MY POINT, I'VE HEARD SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE SAY, WE DON'T NEED MORE MASTER PLANNING. WE DON'T NEED MORE STUDIES, WE NEED TO START MOVING. AND NOW IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE SAYING WE NEED TO MASTER PLAN AND STUDY, WHICH THAT'S FINE, BUT I'M I'M GETTING CONFLICTING. AND, AND THAT MIGHT BE IT. BUT THE THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO I FEEL ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING ARE LIKE I, IN MY OPINION, WE DON'T ALWAYS GIVE A CLEAR DIRECTION UP HERE AS A CRA ESPECIALLY.AND SO I THINK THAT GIVES THE CITY MANAGER A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY TO DO THINGS THE WAY SHE SEES FIT. AND SO THAT'S A CONSEQUENCE OF US UP HERE. I MIGHT JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK US AS A COUNCIL HAS GIVEN DEBBIE SOME DIRECTION, THE WAY WE WANT TO GO WITH THE CRA. AND I THINK SHE'LL END UP DOING THAT FOR US. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I, I YEAH,
[4.d) Resolution No. 2026-08 Amend Boundaries of the Redevelopment Area to include Leisure Lane/Van Doren Avenue Properties]
ONE MORE. WE HAVE ONE MORE JUST BACKING UP. SOLUTION NUMBER 2020 2604 AMENDMENT BOUNDARIES ON THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA TO INCLUDE LEISURE LANE AND VAN BUREN. MR. HAMMOND, I'M SORRY YOU LET HIM GO. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 608, A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF NEW PORT RICHEY. ADOPTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN TO AMEND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU, MR. SIMMONS. THIS AGENDA ITEM GETS US MUCH CLOSER TO AMENDING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CRA TO INCLUDE THE LEISURE LANE AND VAN DOREN AVENUE PROPERTIES. THERE WE GO. YOU ALL KNOW THE PROPERTIES OF SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY, JUST NORTH OF PUBLIX. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES. WE HAVE THE SAME GOAL SINCE DECEMBER 2023, WHEN THE CITY ENTERED INTO AN INTERLOCAL WITH PASCO COUNTY. BRING THESE PARCELS INTO THE CRA. PER FLORIDA STATUTE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY ALL TAXING AUTHORITIES, WHICH WE HAVE DONE AND ADVERTISED THE PROPOSED ACTION AGAIN, WHICH WE HAVE DONE. THIS IS THE BACKGROUND.
WE'VE DONE SEVERAL STEPS. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE END. THESE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS. WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT, WE ONLY HAVE TWO MORE STEPS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, FIRST AND SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED UPDATE AND AMENDED CRP ALONG WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE TIF ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING TONIGHT. PUBLIC INPUT. SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND MAKER.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR A SECOND. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU MATT. GOOD. YES, SIR. GOOD. ALL THOSE IN
[5) Communications]
FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I WITHOUT ANY TIME LIMIT COMMUNICATIONS. BUTLER. JUST JUST TO STRESS THE POINT OF COUNCIL OR THE COUNCILMAN ALTMAN MADE THAT HAVING THE CRA IS ON THE SAME NIGHT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO SUCCESS IN THAT IF IF IT'S THE GETTING EVERYONE ALL TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK WE NEED EVERY STAFF MEMBER FOR CRA MEETING. BUT OF COURSE, THAT'S UP TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION. YEAH, I'VE SAID ENOUGH. THANK YOU. ANY MORE TIME, YOU WANTED MORE TIME? ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CRA MEETINGS. MEETINGS AT THE SAME TIME AS OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAYBE DO SOME SEPARATE WORK SESSIONS TO DIVE DEEPER INTO THESE ITEMS. SO THIS WAY WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THEM BEFORE THEY COME BEFORE US AT A MEETING, SO WE CAN GIVE OUR INPUT. THANK YOU. AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I DON'T KNOW, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO TREAT OUR CRA MEETINGS KIND OF LIKE OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH THE SAME IMPORTANCE. SO I ALMOST FEEL BETTER ABOUT SPLITTING THEM UP AND SPENDING MORE TIME ON THEM JUST TO. YOU'RE WILLING. I AM, WELL, EASY FOR YOU TO SAY. YOU'RE OUT OF HERE. MY THOUGHT IS AGENDA ITEM. IF IT DESERVES ITS OWN TIME, YOU GIVE IT ITS OWN TIME. IF WE CAN DO IT ON THE NIGHT OF OUR MEETINGS AND DO IT ON THE NIGHT OF OUR MEETINGS, IF WE HAVE A SMALL[00:30:01]
CRA MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHEN TO KIND OF GIVE US INFORMATION AND NOT REALLY VOTING ON ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE IT TO. GOOD POINT.