[1) Call to Order - Roll Call]
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MAYOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR JONES IS NOT PRESENT DURING ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN MURPHY HERE, COUNCILMAN ALTMAN AND COUNCILMAN BUTLER IS NOT PRESENT DURING ROLL CALL. AND CITY MANAGER MANS HERE. BY THE WAY. OKAY. THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS TO DISCUSS
[2.a) 2nd Review of the FY 2026/2027 - FY 2030-2031 Proposed Capital Improvement Program]
THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, 2026, 2027 THROUGH 2030, 31.THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. OUR FIRST BUDGET HEARING TOOK PLACE ON JULY 9TH OF 2026. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? FEW PAGES IN, JUST TURN A COUPLE PAGES RIGHT THERE.
THERE YOU GO TO NOTE, THAT, CIP PLAN, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS A LONG TERM STRATEGIC PLANNING. A, I'M SORRY, A LONG TERM STRATEGIC PLAN THAT OUTLINES OUR FUNDING, OUR TIMING, AND OUR PRIORITIES FOR MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND ASSET IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEY ARE ALWAYS SUBSTANTIAL NON-RECURRING EXPENDITURES AIMED AT CREATING AND ENHANCING OUR PHYSICAL ASSETS. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY, AND WHAT TYPICALLY DEFINES THEM IS THE COST, THE RESULT ON THE ASSET AND THE RESULT OF ITS, MEASURABLE LONG TERM VALUE TO THE CITY. ON JULY 9TH, WHEN WE PRESENTED THE BUDGET TO YOU ORIGINALLY, WE HAD SOME TENTATIVE FIGURES AND, MISS DON HAS UPDATED THOSE FIGURES AND SO I WILL, ADVISE YOU THAT OF THE CURRENT OR THE, ON THE, THE CURRENT PLANNING IS FOR A BUDGET IN ITS TOTALITY OF $22,000,974. OH MY GOD. 74,000. THANK YOU. AND THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $350,000. THE STORM WATER FUND IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,385,000. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS 5,004,000. WATER AND SEWER FUND IS 3,555,000. THE REDEVELOPMENT FUND IS $9,115,000, AND THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND IS $2,565,000. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT. SO THAT YOU HAVE IT AND KNOW WHAT OUR WORKING BUDGET TOTALS ARE. WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW IS THE CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS IS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, A LOSS OVER LAST YEAR OF $2,572,310. SO LOSS IN WHAT WAY IN IN REVENUE OVER LAST YEAR'S TOTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET, JUST A REDUCTION OF THE BUDGET. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. REDUCTION OF FUNDING, THE FUNDING. RIGHT. THE FUNDING THAT WE APPROPRIATE TO SUPPORT THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. OKAY. THAT PAGE ISN'T IN HERE. NO, I WILL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU SO THAT YOU ALL HAVE IT. I GLANCED A FEW FIRST FEW PAGES IN AND DIDN'T SEE IT. YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE THEY'RE FRESH, HOT OFF THE PRESS. I WON'T INDEED. SO IF I MAY, AT THE HIGH LEVEL, BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE DETAIL ON THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE REDUCTION, TWO THINGS. ONE, BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST OF NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE TO. IN THAT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS, WE HAVE TO DO THAT EXERCISE OF 10% REDUCTIONS IN BUDGET. AND SO IF IT'S 10% REDUCTIONS IN BUDGET, THE, MY QUESTION REALLY BECOMES WHATEVER WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO ASK FOR BY WAY OF FUNDING, I IMAGINE YOU HAVE A NUMBER IN THERE, BUT, IF THE INCREASE IN THE ANTICIPATED POTENTIAL
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PROJECTS WE COULD TAKE ON, IF WE THINK WE COULD TAKE ON PROJECTS WAS OFFSET BY AN ANTICIPATED GRANT FUNDING OR PARTNERSHIP OR PORTION, THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO DO SOME OF THESE 50, 50 OFFERS TO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY OR THE WHICH I THINK MIGHT BE IN THE HOUSING. I KNOW YOU MAY BE PUTTING IN SOME REQUESTS FOR FUNDING. I'M. I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING SOME OF THAT. RIGHT. BUT, YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE AS WE GO THROUGH IT, IF WE COME UP WITH IDEAS, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY GO INTO THE BUDGET AND THEY'RE SUBJECT TO FUNDING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE WANT TO SET IT AND WE HAVE TO REDUCE IT, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE IT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT IMPACTING OPERATIONALLY. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE RULES. I MEANT TO BRING THAT SOME OF THE STATUTES, BUT THAT THAT SET IT'S ONLY OPERATIONAL. IS IT? I MEAN, I BELIEVE SO IT IS ONLY OPERATIONAL. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. OPERATIONAL WITHOUT ANY CAPITAL. RIGHT.OKAY. 10% REDUCTION. AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO 10%. IT JUST WE HAVE TO HAVE A HEARING WITHIN 15 DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING TO SAY HOW WHAT WE WILL CUT AND WHERE WE WILL CUT IT. RIGHT. AND SO MAYBE MY DISCUSSION WILL BE MORE WHEN WE GET TO THE CRA SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY THERE IN TERMS OF MAYBE THAT'S THE ENTITY THAT TRIES TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY TO ANYWAY, RIGHT. I'LL LET YOU GO POINTS. SO THANK YOU FOR RAISING THEM. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THE 9 MILLION. OH, ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT.
AND AND THE POINT YOU RAISE ABOUT GRANT FUNDING IS AN IMPORTANT ONE TO BRING UP AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE DO TRY TO SUBSIDIZE THE BUDGET EVERY WAY WE CAN WITH GRANT FUNDING. WHEN OPPORTUNITIES ARISE THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO PURSUE, WE DO THAT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, TO LEVERAGE OUR INVESTMENTS. WE, STAY ON TOP OF KAREN FROM BILIRAKIS, DON'T WE, BECAUSE WE DO GET REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS. SHE'S ALWAYS PRESENTING AND TELL HIM SHE'S GOT THIS WHOLE PILE OF GRANTS THAT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ALL GO IN. I DON'T YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MY IT'S ALWAYS A MATTER OF DO THEY FIT FOR US OR NOT? AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR NEEDS. AND SO WE CAN'T PURSUE THEM DIRECTION MAYBE SOMETIMES. RIGHT. WELL THERE'S ALWAYS THE PORK BARREL STUFF. YES. THAT MEANS WHAT DO YOU WANT? AND HOW HOW CAN WE PUT A SPECIAL REQUEST IN? I DON'T KNOW, WE DO.
I'M I GET HER STUFF AND I KNOW YOU AND YOUR NAMES IN THERE STUFF, SO. AND I USUALLY WILL PASS IT ON TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AS I SEE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT A DEPARTMENT OR A PROGRAM. THAT'S THAT, OF COURSE, THAT'S IT IS NICE THAT THE CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE DOES THAT AND PROVIDES US WITH THAT DIRECT INFORMATION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'VE ASKED MR. MUELLER TO PRESENT ALL OF OUR MAJOR CITY FUNDS TODAY. AND TO UPDATE YOU ON WHAT CHANGES WE'VE MADE RELATED TO THE INPUT THAT YOU PROVIDED AT YOUR FIRST BUDGET MEETING. AND THEN WE'RE, AND I DID NOT PLAN TO REVIEW EVERY PROJECT AGAIN TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME INPUT ON A PROJECT THAT ISN'T REFLECTED IN WHAT WE PRESENT, PLEASE LET US KNOW. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. SO IF WE COULD JUMP RIGHT AWAY AND GET INTO THIS, IF YOU GO TO PAGE EIGHT WITHIN YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET BOOK, YOU'LL LOOK AT OUR SUMMARY OF GENERAL FUND. AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POOL RESURFACING PROJECTS WITHIN THAT FUND. AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES FROM THE FIRST DRAFT IN THAT. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR FUND, AND THIS IS HOW I'D LIKE TO DO THIS, IS GO THROUGH EACH FUND IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, YOU KNOW, OR ANY EDITS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, WE'LL ADDRESS IT THEN, AND THEN WE'LL ROLL THROUGH THIS AND I'LL, I'LL TOUCH ON THE CHANGES MORE SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE GET TO THEM. SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT QUESTIONS. GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE'LL GO TO THE SUMMARY OF THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND. THIS IS 002. THAT'S ON PAGE TEN. THIS ALSO HAS NO CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO THIS FUND AND REMAINS THE SAME WITH THE MISCELLANEOUS FLOOD
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CONTROL WATER QUALITY PROJECTS. THE CARLTON ROAD DARTMOUTH PROJECT, THE TOWN AND COUNTRY FLOOD ABATEMENT, THE RIO DRIVE RESILIENCY, AND THE RIVER ROAD RESILIENCY PROJECT AS WELL.GENERAL, BIG GENERAL QUESTION. WHEN WE GET INTO PLANNING IN YOUR REGULAR OPERATIONS BUDGET, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONTRACTED SERVICES OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD FALL SINCE WE HADN'T IDENTIFIED A CAPITAL PROJECT. SO IF WE DO GET INTO ANY KIND OF, MASTER PLANNING OR WHATEVER, IT WOULD NOT BE ON THIS DOCUMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE SUMMARY OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND HERE. WE DO HAVE ONE EDIT OR ONE ADDITION, AND THAT WOULD BE WITH THE SIMS PARK ORANGE LAKE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. YOU'LL FIND THAT PROJECT LOCATED ON PAGE 27 OF YOUR BUDGET BOOK. AND TO JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THIS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING ORANGE LAKE FOUNTAIN WITH A NEW MODERN, ENERGY EFFICIENT SYSTEM, THE REMOVAL AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE LARGE STAIRWAY THAT'S ADJACENT THERE TO THE OVERLOOK, SOME LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS, AND AN UPGRADE TO THE ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE PARK THAT WILL SUPPORT KIND OF OUR ADDITION OF PARK AMENITIES AND SPECIAL EVENTS. ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL WE'RE PROPOSING AN INSTALLATION OF ARTIFICIAL TURF, AND THAT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY OVER THERE AT THE OVERLOOK, THOSE STEPS THAT AS YOU'RE MOVING DOWN TO KIND OF REDUCE THOSE MAINTENANCE ITEMS, THESE IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD ENHANCE SIMS PARK, AS YOU KNOW, A DESTINATION FOR THE CITY, FOR TOURISM IN OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS. TO LOOK DOWN AT THE PROJECT COST SUMMARY. THERE ARE SOME EDITS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THIS AND SOME, SOME CORRECTIONS. THE FISCAL YEAR 2627, THE TOTAL COST FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BE 120 000. THERE IS NO COST FOR ENGINEERING OR SITE ACQUISITION THERE, AND THERE WILL BE NOTHING PLANNED OUT IN THE FUTURE YEARS. ANOTHER 1,000,002.
NO. 120,000. SORRY, THAT'S A TYPO ON THIS PAGE. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YEAH THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH. IT'S ONLY 120,000. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE 1.2 MILLION. AND DO YOU CALL THE STAIRWAY A RAMP. IS IT A RAMP. YOU. IT'S NOT GOT STEPS RIGHT. IT'S A STEP DOWN SYSTEM. AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN YOU HAVE THE RAMP ADJACENT TO IT. BUT THEN YOU HAVE YEAH, YOU HAVE THOSE STEPS AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN NEXT TO THE OVERLOOK AND THERE'S SOME PROGRAMING LIKE REGULAR STAIRS.
IT'S JUST IT DROPS DOWN AND DROPS LIKE A LAWN TERRACE MORE THAN ANYTHING, JUST THINKING ABOUT. BUT WE HAVE A HANDICAPPED RAMP AS ASSORTED AS WELL, SO A HANDICAPPED CAN RIDE A WHEELCHAIR OUT THERE. CORRECT. THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PROJECT OR ON THE CAPITAL FUND? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO THE WATER AND SEWER CONSTRUCTION FUND. THIS IS FUND 405. THAT'LL BE ON PAGE 33. AND THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THIS AS WELL. AGAIN, WE'VE INCLUDED THE HIGH SERVICE PUMP, THE RECLAIMED WATER SEWER SYSTEM EXTENSIONS, THE SMART METER CHANGE OUT. OUR WATER UTILITY SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AND OUR SEWER UTILITY SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS IN THERE, AS WELL AS OUR OXIDATION BASIN CONVERSION PROJECT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON 405? ONLY THE QUESTION I, YOU KNOW, SORT OF SPRUNG ON YOU YESTERDAY ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF SANITARY SEWER. I KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE PIPES. IT'S GRAVITY FED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ISSUE TO TRY TO COVER THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
I'VE NEVER QUITE FIGURED OUT IF WE DID A JUST A BRIEF LOOK AT IT THIS MORNING TO LOOK AT IF WE HAD ANYTHING HISTORICALLY ON THAT. WE DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING ON THAT. HOWEVER, I DID LOOK AT THE GIS MAPS. IT WOULD BE A RUN, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL RUN TO PROVIDE SEWER OUT THERE. OUR NEAREST, WOULD BE ABOUT 2000FT AWAY AND IT'S A TWO INCH LINE, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO UPSIZE IT AND BRING IT IN. SO IT REALLY WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS YOUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON THAT? AND THEN, KIND OF BECAUSE IT'S PASCO COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE THEY WOULD HAVE IN PLACE. SO THAT DISCUSSION WOULD HAVE TO START IF THEY HAD A PROJECT PLANNED FOR THAT AREA, OR IF THEY ALREADY HAVE UTILITIES CLOSE ENOUGH. BY OBVIOUSLY BEING WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION, IT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO START THAT
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DISCUSSION WITH THEM FIRST. WELL, IN 1986, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SEWER AND OUR OLD, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR SAID, GOOD NEWS, ALL OF OUR PROPERTY IN THE TOWN IS SEWERED, OR ALMOST ALL. AND WHEN I PRESSED HIM ON IT, THE ALMOST ALL WAS ALL THE PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT, THERE ARE CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS THAT THAT THEY DON'T TRUMP IT, BUT THERE ARE FACTOR. AND SO IF THE COUNTY PROPERTY AND IT'S A POLLUTER AND WE CAN GET THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT SOMEHOW, OR MAYBE THEIR THEIR LINES, THEIR LINES ARE COMING IN THAT WAY. THERE'S A THERE COULD BE SOME NEGOTIATION, BUT I'M NOT PUSHING IT FAST. BUT IT JUST HASN'T GONE ANYWHERE SINCE WE IDENTIFIED IT OR HAD ANY REAL, GOOD LOOK AT IT. SO, I'M IN NO HURRY TO SEE IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT I DID WANT TO JUST BRING IT BACK UP TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR COASTAL RESILIENCY, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT AND WHAT KIND OF COSTS ARE INVOLVED, IN THAT? WELL, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ALTMAN, FOR BRINGING THAT UP. AND WE WILL DO A STUDY SO THAT WE HAVE SOME FACTS TO SHARE WITH YOU. YEAH. AND THEN WE CAN CONSIDER IT FROM THERE. YEAH. AND I DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY SPENT. IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE, YOU KNOW, SIZE OF THE PIPE, HOW FAR IT IS. IS THERE ANYTHING ALONG THE WAY? WHERE DOES ALL THE GULF HARBOR STUFF COME FROM? YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES OUR CITY PROPERTY COME FROM? ACROSS THAT TEN ACRES WE BOUGHT THAT FEEDS INTO THE BACK OF THAT, ALL THOSE CONDOS, I'M NOT SURE. DO THEY PAY THE GULF HARVEST CONDOS ARE PAYING THE LINDRICK SYSTEM. THEY DO? YES. SO IS THAT A BETTER OPTION TO HAVE THAT GONE THROUGH THAT LAND AND BACK? BECAUSE IT ALL ENDS UP, IT ENDS UP GOING TO THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP. SO IF THAT'S AN OPTION AND THEY'RE BETTER SUITED TO DO IT, WE TAKE SOME OF THEIR STUFF OUTSIDE OUR SERVICE AREA. MAYBE IT'S JUST A JOB WE COULD DO, THROW AT THEM AND SEE IF THEY WANTED TO DO IT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, THAT'D BE WORTH LOOKING INTO FOR SURE. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 4 OR 5. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVE ON TO PAGE 46. THIS WILL BE YOUR REDEVELOPMENT FUND. 630. SOME OF THE FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM OR TO THIS PARTICULAR FUND IS NOTABLY THE RAILROAD SQUARE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. WE BUMPED THAT ONE UP. WE ORIGINALLY HAD THAT SET FOR, CONSTRUCTION IN FISCAL YEAR 2728. AND WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO BEGIN THAT CONSTRUCTION PROCESS EARLIER INTO THE 26, 27 YEARS. THAT'S THE FACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF GRAND BOULEVARD, CORRECT? YEAH. GREAT. AND THEN ONE OTHER CHANGE TO THIS FUND. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE ON PAGE 47, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS WAYFINDING SIGNS THAT PROJECT WAS PUSHED OUT FROM FISCAL YEAR 2627 TO 2728. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 630 FUND AT THIS TIME? I TRAIN THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW TO LOOK AT THE SIGNS TO FIND THE DART. TRY TO FIND ANYTHING ELSE THAT. THE ACORN STREETSCAPE PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE, THE MILLION 650, I'D LIKE THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT IT'S A POTENTIAL TO BE AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY AS YOU LOOK TO GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS OR GET BIDS SOLICITED OR OTHERWISE ON ALL OF THAT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS REALLY A FINANCE QUESTION BECAUSE WE SEE THE SPENDING SIDE HERE AND YOU'VE TALKED TO US ABOUT THE REVENUE SOURCES. AND I SEE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY ACQUISITION AT 750,000. I WONDER IF THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A NET NUMBER OR IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET FOR SALE OF PROPERTY. SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION YESTERDAY ABOUT, ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THIS OR ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THAT? YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT SELLING THE HIGH STREET PROPERTY FOR REDEVELOPMENT. OFTENTIMES THERE'S A, A REQUEST TO GIVE IT SO THEY CAN DO LIKE THEY DID WITH THE BAPTIST CHURCH. AND I THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, MARKET DRIVEN QUESTION IS WE HAD TO DO THAT TO GET THE PRIME PRIME, THE PUMP. BUT, IS THERE A REVENUE POTENTIAL REVENUE IDENTIFIED FOR, FOR ANY OF THIS[00:20:05]
ACORN STREET PROJECT? OR JUST COMING OUT OF CRA FUNDS JUST OUT OF SYRIA? OKAY. SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, IF WE FIND A DEVELOPER AND WE WORK WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE PROBABLY COULD INCREASE THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, AND THEN PUT A LIKE INCREASE IN TO, SALE OF, TO, TO RECEIPT OF SALE OF EXCESS OF CRA LAND. THIS IS A CRA SO CORRECT. YES. IT IS. YEAH. SO, YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING UNLESS IT'S IN THE PLAN. AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S ANTICIPATE THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU'LL DO THIS, WE'LL DO THAT. AND IT KIND OF GOES TO THAT UNDER THE BRIDGE WALKWAY, THE EXTENSION OF ACORN AND SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS, WHICH, ARE GOING TO NEED FUNDING. AND IF SOMEONE PAID US FOR THE PROPERTY AT SUNTRUST AND ALL OF THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR VALUE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. AND IF SOME, IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD ENVISION THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO SOME THINGS TO CREATE THAT WALKABILITY AND, YOU KNOW, SHOW THAT THE DOWNTOWN ECONOMY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DOES GO THERE IS NOT JUST A SINGLE ONE OFF, GET OUR MONEY BACK AND SEE WHAT SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO DO. BUT THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS MASTER PLAN.AND I THINK THE THE WHOLE TOURISM BEND IS IN THERE AS WELL WITH THE RIVER. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL THE PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO STAY PART OF THE FEE, BUY THE PROPERTY. WE INCLUDE THE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THIS NUMBER, BUT YOU CAN SAY IT'S THE MONEY WE'VE PUT INTO ACORN. I DON'T THINK THE NUMBER IS SUFFICIENT TO DO ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE IT TO THE ACORN LAND OR OUT TO THE WATER OR DEAL WITH ANY OF THE OTHER. IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME. I THINK I DESCRIBED THIS TO YOU ONCE, BUT I GOT THIS, LEAD, I THINK THAT CAME FROM SAINT PETERSBURG FOR THE COMPANY AND I OF AND I'M SORRY, I FORGET THE NAME OF THEM, BUT THEY, THEY WON THIS AWARD FOR THE, CEMENT, 3D PRINTED CEMENT SEAWALLS. AND SO WHAT THEY DID IN MIAMI WAS THEY GOT A CITY THAT NEEDED SOME SEAWALLS SOMEWHERE. IT COULD BE AT SWETMAN, IT COULD BE UNDER THE BRIDGE. IT COULD BE TO HELP CREATE A SECOND WALL, TO HAVE A WALKWAY ACROSS OR WHATEVER. BUT THE, THE, THE 25 MILLION THAT'S OUT THERE TO, TO INCREASE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR CITY. IF WE, IF WE PUSHED IT AS A WALKABILITY THING, WHICH IS ALSO A PARKING PROBLEM THING, WE HAVE, I THINK THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR, WE GET $50,000 FOR EVERY PERSON THAT'S EMPLOYED BY A, BY THE PROJECT.
IF THE CITY DID A PROJECT THAT WAS GOING TO BRING A BUSINESS WHO'S WILLING TO MOVE, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME WORK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD THEN HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A $2 MILLION, THREE D ENVIRONMENTAL SEAWALL PROJECT, IF THEY HIRED A HUNDRED PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OR, OR 50 PEOPLE AT THE LOW INCOME OR 20, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU GET $50,000 FOR EACH ONE. SO YOU GET $1 MILLION FOR 20 EMPLOYEES WORKING. AND I BELIEVE WE COULD GET THAT MONEY FOR OUR OWN EMPLOYEES WORKING AT THE, AT THE CENTER AS WELL FROM THE REC CENTER. AND I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE. SO I WAS TOLD, WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE WE'RE HIRING PEOPLE. AND SO IF WE CAN GET THE MONEY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND USE OUR, OUR FUNDS IN THAT REGARD, WE GET A PRODUCT OUT OF IT, NOT JUST SO THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HURTS CHOPPER OR YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT, BUT I THINK IF WE JUST IF WE THINK WE MIGHT MAKE A LARGE ASK AND WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS YET, I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT WE SHOULD IDENTIFY THAT WE WANT SOME OF THAT $25 MILLION AND, OR WE WANT TO SEE IT USED TO OUR BENEFIT. IT COULD GO TO A PRIVATE COMPANY TO BUILD SOMETHING FOR US THAT WE COULD, CONTRACT FOR AND DO A PARTNERSHIP ON IT RATHER THAN NOW THEY WANT TO GIVE IT TO PRIVATE COMPANIES TO DO SOMETHING PRIVATELY THAT'S NOT EVEN RELATED TO RESILIENCY OR HURRICANES. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO DUMP THE MONEY. WE KEEP IT IN OUR EASTER BASKET. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING TILL YOU RIPEN IT, BUT NOW'S THE TIME. I THINK THAT WE COULD INCREASE
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OUR, OBJECTIVES BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS NOT DO IT. BUT IF IT ISN'T IN THE CRA PLAN, ACCORDING TO A 101, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH THE CRA TRAINING, I THINK WE DID HAVE WE DO HAVE SOME TRAINING THAT'S GOING ON THERE OF TWO THINGS HAS TO BE IN. THE PLAN HAS TO BE IN THE BUDGET. SO I SAY, LET'S PUT STUFF IN THE BUDGET.IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN WE CAN EXPLAIN THAT WE DIDN'T GET THE GRANT MONEY THAT WE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, OR WE DIDN'T FIND THE PARTNERS. WE NEEDED TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS ANYWAY. IT'S A STRATEGY I'LL TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT. I'M SURE YOU'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, BUT, AS LONG AS WE KEEP IT IN OUR EASTER BASKET, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF MY REQUEST IS TO GET SOME KIND OF A, OF AN ESTIMATE. AND WE HAVE THIS MEETING ON TOURISM THAT, IS A TWO HOUR ON THE 27TH. I HOPE SOME OF YOU ALL CAN MAKE THAT. IT'S A 2 TO 4:00 AT THE REC CENTER, AND THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF SORT OF REGIONAL PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL, RESILIENT, ECO TOURISM. AND, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THAT WILL LET OTHER PEOPLE EXPLAIN WHAT I ALWAYS HAVE A HARD TIME DOING, SOME POTENTIAL AND MATCH IT UP WITH THE KIND OF DOLLARS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THANK YOU. FOR THE NEXT ONE. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, WE CAN MOVE ON. TO PAGE 65. THAT'LL BE YOUR STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND. THIS IS FUND 701. WE MADE ONE CHANGE TO THIS FUND AND THAT WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT IT'S ON PAGE 65. I DON'T REMEMBER IF I SAID THAT, BUT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, THAT'S THE SOUTH RIVER ROAD PROJECT.
WE BUMPED THAT OUT WITH OUR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION NO LONGER OCCURRING WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 2627, BUT RATHER WE PUSHED THAT OUT TO FISCAL YEAR 2728. AND AS YOU REMEMBER, THAT PROJECT INCLUDES THE, THE STREETSCAPE OR THE STREET ENHANCEMENT PROJECT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RIVER ROAD, GOING SOUTH OF MAIN STREET. THAT'S A 1.7. OH. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE IF YOU'RE LOOKING HERE, IT'S THE SECOND ITEM DOWN ON PAGE 65, YOU'LL SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND YOU'LL SEE SOUTH RIVER ROAD ON IT. OKAY. THE 800. CORRECT. THANK YOU. SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD CONCLUDE ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE SECOND DRAFT HERE OF THE BUDGET. AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER. IS THERE IS THERE ON DO YOU KNOW OF A RIVERVIEW DRIVE? IS THERE SOMETHING POTENTIALLY GOING IN OR THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I GUESS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SAID THEY SAW SOMEBODY SURVEYING OUT THERE OR SOMETHING ALONG THE ROAD. I THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE SIDEWALKS OR SOMETHING, SEWER OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING SOME PARK IMPROVEMENTS. IN GRAND BOULEVARD PARK. OH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AND IT MAY HAVE BEEN RELATED TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE, WHICH, WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS ADVANCED TO YOU BY THE CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE TO PUT IN SOME MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS. PUBLIC ART REALLY AS WELL. AND, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN DOING SOME WORK RELATED TO THAT PROJECT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M AWARE OF. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO IS THE GRAND BOULEVARD BRIDGE PROJECT. WE SENT BACK SOME COMMENTS TO THEM ON THEIR DESIGN, AND THEY MAY BE GOING OUT AND DOING SOME ADDITIONAL SURVEY, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF AT THIS TIME. OKAY.
THANK YOU. THE. PAGE 66 IS THE FUNDING, AND I SEE YOU'RE INDICATING A USE OF PRIOR RESERVES OF 1,000,090 IN 26, 27 TO, I GUESS THAT BALANCES THE BUDGET OF 2.6 MILLION IF I'M
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READING IT RIGHT, 2.5 MILLION. WHAT PAGE YOU ON AGAIN? I'M ON 66. IT'S JUST A SECOND HALF OF THAT 65 HE TOOK US TO. AND IN THAT 2.5 MILLION IS THE AMOUNT SPENT OF WHICH IT USES RESERVES IN THE NEXT YEAR. IT USES MORE RESERVES. AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, MORE RESERVES AND THE NEXT YEAR MORE RESERVES. SO. ARE WE ANTICIPATING THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY RESERVES WE HAVE TO USE, OR DO WE HAVE 15 MILLION IN RESERVES? WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT OTHER ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES. NOW WE HAVE BUDGETED A PAVING NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE IF OUR NON-AD VALOREM IS APPROPRIATE FOR OUR CITY STREETS AND THAT THOSE THAT WE'VE ANNEXED IN. SO THAT COULD CHANGE THE, THE ASSESSMENT, THE PAVING ASSESSMENT, AND THEN THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX DOLLARS HAVE NOT COME IN YET. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'LL LAND WITH THOSE. SO THESE NUMBERS UP HERE WILL CHANGE WHICH THE PRIOR YEAR RESERVES WILL CHANGE. BUT DEPENDING ON HOW THESE NUMBERS COME IN, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THESE PROJECTS.SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ASPIRATIONAL IN TERMS OF THE EXPENSES WITH UNCERTAINTY ABOUT EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING. WE'RE JUST PREPARED TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE RELATED TO THE PROGRAM. I JUST WANT TO TELL A LITTLE STORY. BRIAN'S COMING BACK FROM KEY WEST AND HIS FLIGHT WAS DELAYED. HAS ANYBODY EVER GONE TO THE KEYS IN THE LATE 60S, EARLY 70S? NO. BACK THEN THERE WASN'T AN AIRLINE THAT WENT DOWN THERE AT ALL. IT WAS JUST A CHARTERED FLIGHT THAT FLEW YOU BACK TO MIAMI OR WHATEVER. AND IT WENT OUT AT NIGHT, AT NIGHT. BUT IT WENT OUT WHENEVER EVERYBODY SHOWED UP TO GET ON THE AIRPLANE, AND IT WAS CALLED THE LAST FLIGHT OUT. SO BRIAN'S PROBABLY IS THAT HE'S DOING THE LAST FLIGHT OUT. YEAH. BUT THERE'S EVEN A, YOU KNOW, BOOK ABOUT IT. THERE'S T-SHIRTS ABOUT IT. THERE'S A WHOLE HISTORY ABOUT THE LAST FLIGHT OUT, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T REGULAR AIRLINES THAT WENT INTO KEYS. AND I RULED THE LAST FLIGHT. HE WASN'T EVEN BORN IN THE. WELL, I GUESS HE WAS. HE BORN IN THE 70S. 50S. BRIAN. YEAH, I THINK SO. 50, 50, 75. YEAH. 75. YEAH. SO I'VE BEEN RIGHT AT THE END OF LAST FLIGHT OUT. DEFINITELY NOT THE 60S. REMEMBER IT? I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT. IN EARLY 70S, I GOT TO WRITE IT IN THE EARLY 70S. I WOULD LIKE JUST A MOMENT BEFORE WE BREAK UP, JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK INTO THE CRA BUDGET, TO LOOK AT IT QUICKLY, BECAUSE WE DID LEAF THROUGH IT. IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. YEP. THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS WE TALKED ABOUT. WELL, I'VE JUST STARTED AT 51. I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO OR 50. I'M JUST TRYING TO FLY THROUGH THAT. THE USE OF TIF MONEY COMING IN. IF, IF OUR TIF VALUES GO UP AS EXPECTED. YOU KNOW, THE. THOSE FUTURE YEARS WHEN WE ADD UP ALL THE FUTURE YEARS, IF WE DID IT AS AN EXAMPLE AND LOOKED AT IT FOR THE FIVE YEAR TERM, I'M CURIOUS HOW MUCH CAPITAL LIKE, LIKE THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT MONEY, THEY, THEY SET SOME OR EVEN WITH PENNY FOR PASCO. THEY USED TO SET SOME. BILL PHILLIPS WAS FAMOUS FOR HER. THIS WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR TRANSPORTATION. THIS WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR THIS AND THAT. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CRA PLAN AND WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT SOON, WE STILL HAVE TIME TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO CRA BUDGET AS WE HOPEFULLY GET THAT PLAN ADOPTED BY SEPTEMBER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS. I WAS HOPING BY YEAR END OR BY YEAR END, BUT MAYBE, THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN, WE SHOULD BE BEGINNING AT LEAST DURING THE REST OF THIS YEAR BEFORE YEAR END TO THINKING FORWARD ON, ON ALL THAT REVENUE THAT'S COMING IN, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IF WE HIRE SOME FOLKS TO OPERATE, FOR EXAMPLE, A BOAT RENTAL, LANDING AT A, OR HAVE BOAT RENTAL LANDINGS, WE DON'T HIRE THEM THE CITY, THEY CONTRACT FROM US. WELL, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RECREATION CENTER GETS INTO THE BUSINESS OF HAVING A CITY OWNED SORT OF.
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JUMP ON THE BOAT OR TRAINING OR WHATEVER THEY COULD DO IN TERMS OF PARTICIPATING, OR IF THE LIBRARY, WHICH HAS BEEN OPERATING THE TASTY TUESDAYS, FOUND THAT WE HAVE AN ENHANCED FOOD PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO ON THE PROPERTY WITH, TRAINING PEOPLE. AND I THINK SOME OF THIS COMES FROM WHAT I KNOW TO BE BEV'S LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY COULD BE DOING OUT THERE WITH THE IFAS AND, AQUACULTURE OR WHATEVER MIGHT COME FROM THAT. THE SUPPORT OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, IF IT STAYS IN PUBLIC DOMAIN, WHICH IS THE IDEA OF WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED FOR A CULTURAL CENTER, WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE CITY'S CRA USES SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL MONEY THERE. AND WHEN THE CRA IS DONE AND THE MONEY GOES BACK TO THE CITY, YOU DON'T WANT YOUR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES OF WHAT YOU'VE BUILT TO EXCEED 50% OF THE CRA MONEY, OTHERWISE YOU COULDN'T CONTINUE IT IN ONCE THE CITY GOT THAT MONEY BACK TO IT. AND IT MAY BE NICE THAT THE CITY GETS SOME RELIEF WHEN IT'S OVER WITH, AND DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF IT JUST TO MANAGE THINGS. BUT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY WORKING ON THIS SUMMER FOR THE PROGRAM AT THE FRA, WHICH IS THINKING THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIFESPAN OF THE CRA. SO MY QUESTION IS IF WE COULD ADD UP ALL THE CAPITAL ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE HAVE ENVISIONED IN OUR BUDGET, AND WE DECIDED, OKAY, FROM FROM WHAT DAVE HAS DONE WITH SOME OF HIS RETURNS AND MONEY THAT'S COMING IN OVER TIME AND PAYING US BACK AND WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE THAT WE COULD AT LEAST FEEL THAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE BETWEEN LIQUIDATING DEBT SERVICE BY TURNING OVER SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND IMAGINING THAT WE HAVE THE USE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, TO GET 4 OR $5 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY EVERY YEAR. THAT'S WHY SOME ONE COUNTY COMMISSIONER PARTICULARLY WANTS US TO LIQUIDATE IT SO HE CAN GET HIS MONEY BACK. SO WE REALLY NEED AN AGGRESSIVE, EXCITING PLAN. EVERYBODY GETS BEHIND. THAT'S DEPENDENT ON US BEING SUCCESSFUL. AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT THE STATE KEEPS ASKING US, IS TO LOOK BACK AND SEE IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR STRATEGY, SO WE CAN ENHANCE OUT YEARS. JUST TO THE POINT OF MY COMMENT WITH CRYSTAL, WHICH IS HOW MUCH USE IN SOME OF THOSE YEARS, YOU'RE ONLY USING A FEW MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW PER PROJECT. SO MAYBE IT DOES ADD UP TO 8 OR 9 MILLION, ASSUMING THAT WE'LL HAVE 15 MILLION. BUT IF WE HAD SOME KIND OF A, I HATE TO USE THE WORD RULE OF THUMB, BUT IF THE RULE OF THUMB WAS THAT, 40% OF OUR EFFORT IS IN GETTING PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO INCREASE THE TAX BASE, AND 60% OF OUR ELEMENT IS TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES THAT WE KEEP PUBLICLY, LIKE ALL OF THIS NEW STREETSCAPE OR OPERATING THE LIBRARIES EFFORTS ON THE RAILROAD SQUARE, ALL THOSE THINGS. IF IT'S A NEW EMPLOYEE THAT'S HIRED TO DO IT, IT'S OUR PLAN CAN BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO HIRE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HIRE 15, 20 PEOPLE FOR THESE PROJECTS. AND SO ADD 50,000 TIMES EACH ONE OF THOSE. AND WE'VE GOT $1 MILLION TO HELP TO, TO SAY, YEAH, IF YOU APPROVE OF THIS ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COMMIT TO HIRING THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN BUDGET IN THE EXPENSES AND THE CRA, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T GET OUT OF CONTROL. AND NO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OVER THOSE EXPENSES AS A CITY WHEN ALL OF THAT GETS TURNED BACK OVER TO US. SO, LONG TERM PLANNING IS WHAT THAT 25 MILLION IS FOR. AND WHEN WE DO FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, THAT'S LIKE THE COUNTY'S GOT A 2050 PLAN OUT THERE AND THEY'RE ALL IN THE MINDSET. AND TRANSPORTATION HAS A LONG TERM PLAN. SO AS WE GO ALONG, I WOULD LIKE DURING THIS FALL SEASON, MAYBE THIS IS A POST-BUDGET CONVERSATION, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REALLY START PLANNING NEXT YEAR'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. THE NEW LAW CAUSES US TO START OUR BUDGET, LIKE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, NEXT YEAR. SO THIS IS OUR TIME TO KIND OF DO THAT LONG TERM STRATEGY AND LOOK AT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE CHARTING OUT AND THEN WHATEVER WE CAN INTO OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, EVEN IF WE CHANGE IT ALONG THE WAY. I JUST[00:40:07]
WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT. IT GOES BACK TO YOUR EASTER BASKET COMMENT CHOPPER. I WANT TO LOOK ON PAGE 62. WE BUILT THE ENTRANCE TO SIMS PARK. WE PUT A LA LA NO, NO EXCITEMENT TO POST AND ASSIGN SID SIMS PARK. AND I BROUGHT UP A WHOLE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, USED SOME KIND OF CONSTRUCTION LOOK THAT WOULD MATCH OUR BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN AND DATE BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, 1920S, 1930S. AND, AND I HAD THIS WHOLE LAY IT OUT AND THE CONTRACTOR JUST SAID, WELL, HE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT HIS IDEA. THAT WAS IT. HE WENT AHEAD AND PUT HIS BLOCKS UP AND PUT THIS METAL SIGN OVER THERE. AND THAT WAS THE END OF IT. AND WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS RAILROAD SQUARE BATHROOMS SITE, SINCE YOU WERE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE OLD RAILROAD, DEPOT FROM THE 1920S AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOME SOME OF THAT DESIGN INTO THAT BUILDING SINCE WE IT IS A RAILROAD SQUARE BATHROOM AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, A RESTROOM AND IT'S RIGHT THERE ON RAILROAD SQUARE. IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN NEED A SEWER CONNECTION TO IT IF IT DID. I'M JUST KIDDING.BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME FOO FOO ON THE OUTSIDE TO TAKE AND LOOK AND LOOK LIKE OUR ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, RAILROAD STATION. THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, MAYOR. AND, AND WE HAVE, IN ADDITION TO MAKING SURE THAT THE DESIGN FEATURES WE PRESENT TO YOU ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT EXISTS IN RAILROAD SQUARE, WE HAVE ASKED TO INCORPORATE SOME RAIL ROAD FEATURES. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BRING SOMETHING THAT'LL BE OF INTEREST TO YOU OR YOU CAN GIVE US MORE DIRECTION THAT OLD BUILDING AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME FEATURES FROM THAT OLD BUILDING THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT. I'M SURE IT WAS A WOODEN BUILDING, WHATEVER, WHATEVER. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF IT AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY SAID, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD A BATHROOM? AND I TOLD THEM THE WHOLE PROBLEM WITH VERIZON WOULDN'T HELP US, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A BATHROOM. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TIME AND WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A RAILROAD. THE RAILROAD DEPOT BACK IN, IN 1920S, 1930S. RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD.
IT WON'T BE JUST PROJECT IS PASSIONATE PROJECT. IF NOTHING ELSE. FOR
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.