[1) Call to Order – Roll Call] [00:00:11] MAYOR. JONAS. COUNCILMAN MURPHY HERE. COUNCILMAN ALTMAN PRESENT. COUNCILMAN BUTLER HERE. CITY MANAGER. MANNS. CITY ATTORNEY. DRISCOLL HERE. TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. YEAH. A PROCLAMATION. AND I SEE THE WHOLE CLASS OF 2026 IS HERE. [4.a) Gulf High School Class of 2026] THAT'S FUNNY. OH, DO YOU WANT TO COME DOWN? WHOLE CLASS? THIS IS A PROCLAMATION OF THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY. WHEREAS GULF HIGH SCHOOL WAS FOUNDED IN 1922 AND HELD ITS FIRST GRADUATION CEREMONY FOR SENIORS ON APRIL 29TH, 1924, WITH THE GRADUATING CLASS OF 11 STUDENTS. AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2026 MARKS THE 102ND GRADUATING CLASS FROM GULF HIGH SCHOOL, WHEREAS, GRADUATION CEREMONIES HAVE BEEN A RITE OF PASSAGE THAT DATE BACK TO THE 12TH CENTURY AND CULMINATES THE 13 YEAR JOURNEY EACH STUDENT MAKES BETWEEN KINDERGARTEN AND HIGH SCHOOL. AND WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY DEEMS IT PROPER TO RECOGNIZE THE 368 MEMBERS OF THE CLASS OF 2026 AT GULF HIGH SCHOOL. FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, WHICH HAS BROUGHT THEM TO THIS HISTORIC MOMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, I. CHOPPER DAVIS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, DO HEREBY CONGRATULATE THE GULF HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2026 AND WISH THEM WELL ON THEIR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT DO YOU HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE BEHIND ME? AND THEY'RE ALL GULF HIGH GRADUATES? I DIDN'T GRADUATE FROM GULF, BUT. BUT I DID GRADUATE ANYHOW. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S KIND OF A COMPLIMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY FINDS THESE THESE CITIZENS THAT WERE ACTUALLY FROM HERE AND, AND ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE STILL, STILL TODAY. THANK YOU. SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M HUMBLED TO, TO EVEN BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS, HAVING BEEN A, A GULF HIGH ALUMNI MYSELF, THE SCHOOL WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN CARVING A PATH. AND I GUESS WHAT BETTER LEGACY THAN MAYBE STEPPING IN AND, AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT FOR OTHER STUDENTS? SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE FILLED THIS LOBBY WITH MY SENIORS, BUT WITH ONE DAY OF TESTING LEFT, THEY BETTER BE HOME STUDYING. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR MAY 4TH, 2026 [5) Approval of Minutes] SPECIAL MEETING IN MAY 5TH. REGULAR MEETING. I'LL SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, [6) Vox Pop for Items Not Listed on the Agenda or Listed on Consent Agenda] I, I BOX POP. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP. JUDY, WHAT DO YOU WANT? ATTORNEY DRISCOLL TO READ? ALL THOSE IN ATTENDANCE MUST BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS OPINIONS AND REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS. ANY PERSON WHO BECOMES DISORDERLY OR WHO FAILS TO CONFINE REMARKS TO THE IDENTIFIED SUBJECT OR BUSINESS AT HAND, SHALL BE CAUTIONED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONCLUDE REMARKS ON THE SUBJECT IN A DECOROUS MANNER AND WITHIN THE DESIGNATED TIME LIMIT. ANY PERSON FAILING TO COMPLY AS CAUTION MAY BE BARRED FROM MAKING ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS DURING THE MEETING BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER, UNLESS PERMISSION TO CONTINUE OR AGAIN ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IS GRANTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT. THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS BONNIE MARTIN. OKAY. OH, THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. YEAH. I WAS SURPRISED RECENTLY TO READ THAT. ONLY 32, PLEASE. OH. I'M SORRY. BONNIE MARTIN, 6030 OAK RIDGE AVENUE, NEW PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA, 34653. I WAS SURPRISED TO READ RECENTLY THAT ONLY 35% OF OUR FIFTH GRADERS HAD WERE AFTER TESTING, WERE ON LEVEL FOUR SCIENCES ON GRADE LEVEL, AND THAT STATISTIC HIGHLIGHTS A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SUPPORT OUR PASCO STUDENTS WITH HANDS ON [00:05:02] ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS THAT INSPIRE CURIOSITY, CREATIVITY, AND LIFELONG LEARNING. AS YOU KNOW, BRAINSTORMS HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON BRINGING AN EXCITING INTERACTIVE SCIENCE DISCOVERY CENTER EXPERIENCE TO PASCO COUNTY. AND I TRULY HOPE. AND AS DO EVERYONE IN BRAINSTORMS, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PLACE THAT CENTER IN DOWNTOWN NEW PORT RICHEY. OUR CITY ALREADY OFFERS A WONDERFUL LIBRARY, PARKS WHERE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN CAN, CAN CONGREGATE AND PLAY. AND NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN INDOOR PLACE WHERE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES CAN ALSO DISCOVER, EXPLORE AND EXPAND THEIR MINDS TOGETHER. TO HELP BRING THIS VISION TO LIFE, WE HAVE ENGAGED IDEAS ORLANDO TO ASSIST WITH THE CONCEPT, DEVELOPMENT AND THE INITIAL PHASE OF OUR PLANNING. THEIR EXPERTISE WILL HELP US TO CREATE A MEANINGFUL STEM RELATED PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO MEET THE EDUCATIONAL AND AND CULTURAL NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE SERVICES. WE WANT TO ENHANCE AND PROVIDE THINGS THAT ARE NOT READILY AVAILABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE TOOK THEM ON A TOUR OF OUR RIVER YESTERDAY AND DOWNTOWN, AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE CHARACTER AND CHARM OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY. TODAY WE HELD THREE CULTURE MAPPING FOCUS GROUPS AND WE. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN HERE WHO ATTENDED THOSE GROUPS. AND ANYONE WHO IS COMING TOMORROW PUBLIC. THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING OUR STORY JAM TOMORROW. ON THAT NOTE, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AS THE NEXT VOX POP SPEAKER, DUNCAN KENNEDY, FROM IDEAS. HE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF EXPERIENCE DESIGN FOR THE IDEAS COMPANY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DUNCAN KENNEDY. I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF EXPERIENCE DESIGN FOR IDEAS. WE OUR COMPANY HISTORY. WE USED TO BE PART OF THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY. IN 2001, WE WENT INDEPENDENT, BOUGHT OUR DIVISION FROM DISNEY. AND THIS JULY WE WILL BE CELEBRATING OUR 25TH YEAR OF BEING AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY. WE ARE AN EXPERIENCED DESIGN AND BRAND ACTIVATION COMPANY, AND WE'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING HERE IN NEW PORT RICHEY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. WE'VE GOT TO VISIT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY MUSEUM. HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO GREAT PRESERVE. THIS MORNING WE WERE AT THE ENERGY AND MARINE CENTER AND HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THEM. AND WE'RE IN THE DISCOVERY PROCESS PHASE RIGHT NOW OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE, HOW BEST THE BRAINSTORMS SCIENCE DISCOVERY CENTER CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS, AND GETTING THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. AS WE START THE FIRST PART OF OUR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PHASE AND JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE HOSPITALITY SO FAR. WE'VE ALREADY FALLEN IN LOVE WITH NEW PORT RICHEY HERE, AND SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT SEVERAL MORE TIMES, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY COMES TO FULL FRUITION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS CAROL KENNARD. HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS CAROL KENNARD. I LIVE AT SIX EIGHT, TWO EIGHT RIVER ROAD IN NEW PORT RICHEY. AND THE REASON WHY I'M HERE, AS USUAL IS I'VE GOT QUESTIONS AND I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT MIGHT BE DOING. WE HAVE THE WHAT IS GOING TO BE LATER ON TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT RIVER ROAD SOUTH. AND I'M GOING TO EVEN MENTION RIVER ROAD NORTH, BECAUSE THOSE TWO PLACES COULD REALLY HAVE ISSUES. IF THERE ARE PLANS, FOR INSTANCE, HAVING ON RIVER ROAD SOUTH THERE, GOING TO THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS AND HAVE IT FOR LOTS OF HOMES THERE. AND SO I'M WONDERING WHERE THE DRIVING WILL BE. WILL IT BE GOING ON 19 OR WILL IT BE GOING ON RIVER ROAD SOUTH? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY HARD TO KNOW AS FAR AS THE DRIVING AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THERE. AND ON RIVER ROAD NORTH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE THE BOAT RAMP, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, [00:10:06] WE WOULD STILL HAVE THAT PROBLEM AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT CURRENTLY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN RIVER ROAD NORTH TO EVEN GET INTO THE THE MAIN STREET AND GET OUT BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY PRETTY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THERE AS WELL AS PEOPLE DON'T EVEN STOP, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STOP SIGNS, THEY DON'T DO IT, THEY JUST RUN THROUGH IT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS. AND SO I HOPE TO GET AN ANSWER, BECAUSE I'M REALLY ONE OF THOSE STUPID PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS. THANKS. THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS ANTONIA MURNICK. MY NAME IS ANTONIA. MY ADDRESS IS 6335 MISSOURI AVENUE, HERE IN THE CITY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I DO LOVE MANY, MANY OF THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE DOWNTOWN. TODAY I DID ACCOUNTING, AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO TAKE DOWN THE SIGNS THAT SAY GOLF CART PARKING ONLY. I HAPPEN TO DRIVE A VERY SMALL CAR. MY CAR WILL FIT INTO A GOLF CART SPOT WITHOUT HANGING OVER. UNLIKE MY SON'S 4X4 RAM THAT WOULD NOT POSSIBLY FIT. GOLF CARTS ARE ALLOWED TO PARK IN CAR SPOTS. CARS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK IN GOLF CART SPOTS. I SPOKE TO TWO CITY POLICE OFFICERS. THEY SAID IF I DID SO, THERE WAS A GOOD LIKELIHOOD I WOULD GET TICKETED AND OR POSSIBLY TOWED. TO ME, THIS IS VERY UNACCEPTABLE. THERE ARE 27 NOW SPOTS FROM MADISON, I'M SORRY, ON MISSOURI AVENUE FROM. ADAMS TO RIGHT BEHIND CAVALIER SQUARE THAT ARE DESIGNATED GOLF CART PARKING ONLY. I HAPPEN TO NOT BE ABLE TO REALLY DO THE WHOLE DART THING BECAUSE OF PERSONAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND IF I HAVE TO PARK FAR, FAR AWAY, I AM LIMITED TO ENJOYING THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ONLY AS LONG AS IT IS DAYLIGHT, BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY FEEL SAFE WALKING ALONE IN THE DARK TO MY CAR WHEN THEY HAD THE LOVELY CAVALIER EXTRAVAGANZA THAT INCLUDED THE LOVELY MUSIC AND THE DANCING. I COULDN'T STAY VERY MUCH PAST 815 BECAUSE IT WAS GETTING DARK AND MY CAR WAS PARKED OVER ALMOST TO CITY HALL. SO I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT CARS ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TO PARK. I UNDERSTAND GOLF CARTS ARE VERY FUN, BUT THEY DON'T HAPPEN TO BE PART OF MY LIFESTYLE. SO I DO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU, AND I'M ALSO REALLY HAPPY TO STAY AND HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AFTER. THANKS SO MUCH. BYE. THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS DONNA JENSEN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER, ATTORNEY AND STAFF. I'M DONNA JENSEN 5922 WYOMING AVENUE, NEW PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF AND OUR MAYOR FOR GETTING THE NOMINATION. 11 PAPERWORK IN FOR THE FLORIDA TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. BUBBA AND I AND CAPTAIN KIRK ATTENDED THE CONFERENCE. IT WAS FANTASTIC. WE LEARNED A LOT. WE MET A LOT OF EXCITING VENDORS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING WITH THE PRESERVATION OF GULF HIGH 1922. WE REFER TO IT AS THAT AND NOT SCHWEGMANN BECAUSE WE HAVE A SCHWEGMANN UP IN HUDSON. SO THIS IS 1922. I KNOW THERE'S SOME WORK BEING DONE ON THE SCHOOL. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE ARE EXCITED TO GET BACK AND START WORKING ON THE WATERFRONT FOR THE PROPERTY. AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP THE CITY PROCEED TO GET THINGS GOING SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT STARTED. SOS SAVE OUR SCHOOL WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH BRAINSTORMS. WE. SOME OF US ARE ON BOTH BOARDS AND WE REALLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN FOR BRAINSTORMS AND FOR H FOR SOS BECAUSE WE WILL BE HAVING PART OF BRAINSTORMS, HOPEFULLY WITH US AT SOS GULF HIGH 1922. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DID NOT, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT GET THE NOMINATION THIS YEAR, THERE IS TALK THAT NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE TAKING THE APPLICANTS THAT SUBMITTED APPLICATION THIS YEAR AND NOT ASKING FOR MORE BECAUSE THEY [00:15:01] HAD SO MANY THIS YEAR THAT WERE VERY EXCITING TO THEM THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO ACCEPT MORE NEXT YEAR. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE WHAT THEY HAVE. MAYBE WE WILL BE IN THERE NEXT YEAR. THE SCHOOL, THAT ONE SCHOOL, THAT 1 OR 1 BUILDING, THAT ONE IS IN STUART, FLORIDA. IT'S THEIR ARCHITECT WAS THE SAME ONE AS WE HAD FREDERICK TREMBLE. IT'S A 1922 HIGH SCHOOL. THEIR DETERIORATION OF THEIR PROPERTY SEEMED TO BE MORE PREVALENT THAN OURS. SO THEY WERE AWARDED THE NOMINATION. BUT ACCORDING TO TALKING TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CHANCE NEXT YEAR OF BEING THERE. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR OUR SUPPORT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING OUR HANDS DIRTY AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU. THE FINAL PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS LISA TINKER. GOOD EVENING, LISA TINKER 7017 PARK DRIVE, NEW PORT RICHEY 34652. I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE NORTH RIVER AREA. THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO THAT THERE WAS A MEETING HELD WITH VERY LIMITED INVITEES ABOUT MOVING THE BOAT RAMP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS FROM WHERE THE OLD GENESIS SCHOOL WAS, BUYING UP SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, MOVING THE STATE SPONSORED BOAT RAMP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST WANT TO REMIND THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS. YOU KNOW, WE THE CITY JUST SPENT A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION TO NARROW RIVER ROAD TO CUT TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND NOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO EXPAND IT, TO TRY TO PUT A BOAT RAMP WHERE BOAT RAMP DOESN'T BELONG? YOU KNOW, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA. YOU KNOW, YOU COME, YOU SIT AT MAIN STREET, YOU SEE AN APARTMENT AND STORES. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. YOU SEE THE BEAUTIFUL SIMS PARK ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TALK ABOUT PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT THERE. YOU'RE TOTALLY GOING TO CHANGE THE VIEW OF THE RIVER FOR THE CITY. SOMEBODY COMING IN IS NOT GOING TO REALIZE THERE'S REALLY A RIVER THERE. I SEE A BRIDGE, I SEE BUILDINGS, I DON'T SEE A RIVER. SO I REALLY WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT AND PLEASE HOLD MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. DON'T SPEND THREE YEARS BUYING THE PROPERTY, PLANNING IT, AND THEN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO AREN'T OVERLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. TRYING TO MOVE THE BOAT RAMP FARTHER INTO THIS, INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA. OR DOES ANYBODY [7) City Council Response to Vox Pop Speakers] WANT TO SPEAK FIRST? I THINK I JUST WANT. THAT RULING DIDN'T WE? YES. YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. WELL, I WILL START AND I WILL JUST SAY FIRST OF ALL, THAT TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THESE COMMENTS ABOUT THE BOAT RAMP AND TO THE PROCESS AND ASKING US TO NOT HOLD ON TO THINGS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CRA MEETING TONIGHT. SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WILL. WELL, THE ONE OTHER SIDE OF RIVER ROAD WILL BE ON THE CRA MEETING. THE BOAT RAMP PROPERTY BELONGS TO THE CITY. AND SO IT'S A CITY ISSUE. SO WE HAVE TWO HATS UP HERE. SO ON THE CRA HAT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHO'S PAID FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE NORTH RIVER ROAD WAS THAT WAS A THAT WAS CRA MONEY. SO CRA MONEY IS NOT INTENDED TO REDUCE TRAFFIC. IT'S INTENDED TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A FALLACY IN THAT COMMENT, THAT IMPROVEMENT ON THAT SIDE OF THE RIVER WAS A KIND OF HIGH END, EXPENSIVE SORT OF STREETSCAPING AND CURB APPEAL DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE HOUSING STOCK ON THE ON THE PROPERTY. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROMOTION, INCLUDING MYSELF CITY WIDE AT HAVING URBAN SLOWER, SMALLER LANES. SO THE SMALLER LANES ARE TO REDUCE SPEED ON THE ROAD, NOT TO ELIMINATE TRAFFIC. AND AND SO THE IDEA THAT THAT WAS BUILT JUST FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO REDUCE ITS USAGE IS NOT CORRECT. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTS AND THE CONCERN THAT FOLKS DON'T WANT THINGS TO CHANGE. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE CRA IS TO SEE THINGS THAT DO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER. SO ON THAT END, ON THE OTHER END, THAT'S A CRA DISCUSSION. WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE IT THEN AND NOT NOW. SO I'LL I'LL WAIT ON MY COMMENTS ON THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST A FEW THINGS. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK [00:20:01] ON THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THE COMPACT PARKING SPOTS AND THE, THE GOLF CART PARKING, OUR PARKING PLAN BACK FROM 2017 CALLED FOR 538 SPACES TO INCREASE IN OUR DOWNTOWN, OF WHICH THE PARKING GARAGE HOPED TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT. BUT ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PARKING PLAN, WHICH HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE PAST, IS DIVERSIFICATION OF PARKING SPOTS IN OUR DOWNTOWN. SO THE NOTE IS TAKEN, AND I WOULD JUST GO BACK TO COMMENTS MADE BY A COUNCIL MEMBER UP HERE IN THE PAST. MR. ALTMAN, AS WELL AS MYSELF, IS STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT PLAN AGAIN AND LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING THE OTHER PARTS OF THAT PLAN, BECAUSE IT HAS KIND OF SAT ON A SHELF FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. THEY'RE VERY MUCH IN ALIGNED WITH THE PLAN THAT WAS LAID OUT YEARS AGO. SO IT IS TIME. YOU'RE BRINGING UP A VERY VALID POINT THERE ON THE ON THE POINT OF BRAINSTORM. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP. ABSOLUTELY. COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS IS ESSENTIAL WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE OUR CHILDREN HAVE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF EDUCATION. AND YOUR POINT ON THE 35% SCIENCE RATES IS WELL TAKEN. I'M SURE YOU'RE REFERRING TO A NATIONAL STUDY WHEN WHEN YOU BRING THAT UP. AND IF YOU ARE, IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS HAVE DISCRETION IN WHO THEY GET TO CHOOSE TO TAKE THOSE STUDIES. SO THAT'S EVEN WITH SOME HIGH SCHOOLS CHOOSING, PICKING THE BEST OF THE BEST TO TAKE THOSE THOSE EXAMS. SO IT IS DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY TOP OF MIND ON THE ON THE RIVER ROAD AND SOUTH ROAD. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A LARGER CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER TIME, BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT I HAVE SAID ON THE RECORD THAT ANYTHING DONE ON SOUTH RIVER ROAD NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE TRAFFIC WAY THROUGH US 19 AND NOT THE ROAD THAT'S RIGHT THERE, RIVER ROAD. AND AS FOR NORTH RIVER ROAD, MY COMMENTS BEFORE WERE A BIT AMBIGUOUS BECAUSE I WANTED TO ALLOW STAFF THE TIME TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS ON THE BOAT RAMP, BUT AT THIS TIME I HAVEN'T RECEIVED MUCH UPDATE FROM STAFF, AND I'VE HAD ENOUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ON RIVER ROAD AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND BOATERS TO THINK THAT THE BEST SPOT FOR THAT BOAT RAMP IS WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. THE PROPOSAL THAT CAME BEFORE US, THE THE TENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF I WOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT A PROPOSAL. BUT THE IDEA THAT CAME BEFORE US, I JUST DON'T THINK IS BEST FOR THE NORTH RIVER ROAD COMMUNITY. SO I'M JUST UPDATING MY MY STANCE PUBLICLY THAT YES, I DO NOT. I DO AGREE THAT WHERE THE PARKING WHERE THE EXCUSE ME, WHERE THE BOAT RAMP IS NOW IS WHERE IT SHOULD STAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO TO THE GOLF CART THING FIRST. AND THIS IS PROBABLY A DISCUSSION FOR US, BUT THE WHOLE SHE MADE THE POINT THAT GOLF CARTS CAN PARK IN CAR SPOTS, BUT CARS CAN'T PARK IN GOLF CART SPOTS, AND I DON'T THINK GOLF CARTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED PARKING CAR SPOTS SPOTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PARK IN THERE, AND THEY TAKE UP THE WHOLE SPOT FOR ONE GOLF CART. AND THAT'S KIND OF DEFEATING THE PURPOSE. I THINK ONLY CARS SHOULD BE IN CAR SPOTS, GOLF CARTS AND GOLF CART SPOTS, AND THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE MANEUVERABLE, AND THEY CAN EVEN GET TWO IN THOSE SPOTS. AND BY CAPITOL SQUARE THERE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE THAT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE GOLF CART SPOTS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO PARK IN THE CAR SPOTS TO ME. SO I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN THE NORTH RIVER ROAD, SOUTH RIVER ROAD, I THINK THE SOUTH RIVER ROAD I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER, BUT WE CAN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT THEN. BUT THE NORTH RIVER ROAD AS FAR AS THE BOAT RAMP AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND LIKE, LIKE COUNCILMAN BUTLER SAID, IT WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT COME TO FRUITION ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT WAS JUST KIND OF AN IDEA. I DON'T I LIKE THE BOAT RAMP WHERE IT IS TOO, BUT I ALWAYS ON THE SIDE OF, OKAY, LET'S, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMETHING OUT THERE, LET'S LOOK AT IT, LET'S SEE WHAT IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE. AND IS IT A BETTER IDEA BEFORE WE KIND OF CANCEL OUT AND SAY, NO, IT'S NOT. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY TAKE ON IT. IF SOMETHING COMES UP OR WE HAVE ACTUALLY A PLAN OR SOMETHING, A PROPOSAL THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A BETTER IDEA THAN I THINK IT SHOULD GO TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEY CAN DECIDE. BUT THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. SO THE TALK OF THAT, IT'S GOING TO MOVE. NO IT'S NOT. THERE'S NO TALK OF THAT. IT'S JUST AN IDEA THAT WAS FLOATED OUT THERE. SO JUST KEEP THAT KEEP THAT IN MIND. I THINK THAT'S IT. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE THE BRAINSTORM TEAM FOR PUTTING THEIR INFORMATION TOGETHER AND MR. KENNEDY FOR BEING HERE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS CONCEPT IS A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, PETER'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON. SO I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF DESIGN CONCEPTS COME TO FRUITION. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE [00:25:01] DOING THERE. AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO JUST PUT MY $0.02 IN ON THE BOAT RAMP. YOU KNOW, I'M AN AVID BOATER. OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL SUPPORT THE BOAT RAMP, SO WE'RE ALL GOING TO MAKE WHATEVER THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY IS. AND LIKE WE'VE ALL SAID, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DESIGNS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE SET UP THAT WASN'T GREAT. SO WE'RE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT COMES THROUGH THAT YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT IT. AND THEN ALSO JUST REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE PARKING SITUATION IN THIS CITY IS VERY TOUCHY. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND FOR OLDER PEOPLE, IT'S HARD TO GET AROUND. BUT I THINK WITH THE EFFORT THAT WE PUT FORTH IN THE PARKING GARAGE, IF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY, I THINK THAT'S REALLY YOUR BEST AVENUE FOR GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE CITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE PAY FOR THE DART. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SECURITY, WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS. IT'S LIT, YOU KNOW, SO TO ME, IF SOMEBODY'S WORRIED ABOUT GETTING IN AND OUT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AFTER DARK, I THINK THAT'S REALLY YOUR BEST OPTION. YOU KNOW, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO PUT THESE GOLF CART PARKING SPACES IN, YOU KNOW, TO MINIMIZE THE CHAOS IN THE PARKING LOT. BECAUSE BEFORE WE DID THAT, GOLF CARTS WOULD PARK ANYWHERE. SO I THINK WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS THE BEST WE CAN FOR WHAT WE GOT TO WORK WITH AS OF RIGHT NOW. SO WE'LL SEE HOW PARKING PROGRESSES, YOU KNOW, FORWARD FROM THERE. WE HAD DECIDED TO HAVE VOX POP AND ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. AND I THINK YOU GOT FOUR ANSWERS. SO YOU DON'T NEED A FIFTH ANSWER SAYING PRETTY MUCH [8) Consent Agenda] THE SAME THING. SO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY. THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2355 [9.a) Second Reading, Ordinance No. 2026-2355: Amendments to Alcohol Ordinance RE: Update Allowable Permits by Non-Profits] AMENDMENT TO THE ALCOHOL ORDINANCE UPDATING, ALLOWING PERMITS AND AND FOR NONPROFIT OR BY NONPROFIT. THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2355. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT OF CHAPTER THREE, SECTION 3-5, SUBSECTION D SUB. SUBSECTION THREE OF THE NEW PORT RICHEY CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, PROVIDING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PERMITS FOR NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS FROM 3 TO 12 PER YEAR. PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AS YOU LIKELY WILL REMEMBER FROM THE FIRST READING, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS THAT IT ALLOWS FOR THE APPROVAL OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 561.42. BY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PERMITS AS INDICATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. FROM 3 TO 12 PER YEAR FOR NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS, AND THE REQUEST IS TO UPDATE THE ALLOWABLE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTES, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU DO SO. WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OF US. WE HAVE A PUBLIC OPINION HERE. SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. VOTE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND TO BAKER. YEAH, JUST TO SAY THE ALLOWABLE APPLICATIONS GOING FROM 3 TO 12, THE 12 IS IN ALIGN WITH STATE STATUTE. CORRECT. SO IF THE NUMBER WERE TO CHANGE AT THE STATE LEVEL, THAT WOULD EFFECTUATE HERE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO THIS EVERY TIME. CORRECT. SO TO THAT POINT, TWO THINGS WITH THIS, JUST REITERATING FROM THE LAST READING, THE FIRST ONE IS I'M SURE THE STATE LOVES WHEN WE JUST DO WHAT THEY ASK THEM TO DO, WE PARTNER WITH THEM. SO WE'RE BEING GOOD PARTNERS. THEY'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF COMMERCE LOCALLY. BUT TWO MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PUT THE BEST FOOT FORWARD AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR DOWNTOWN, EXCUSE ME, WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND BEYOND. SO IT'S A NET POSITIVE FOR OUR CITY. SECOND, NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU, MATT. I'M GOOD. PETE. ME AS WELL, SIR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. FIRST READING OF [9.b) First Reading, Ordinance No. 2026-2363: Amending Chapter 23, Code of Ordinances RE: Permanent Closure and Establishing Rules for Railroad Square] ORDINANCE 2026 3363. AMENDMENT OF CHAPTER 23 CODE OF ORDINANCES PERMANENT CLOSURE OF ESTABLISHED RULES FOR RAILROAD SQUARE. THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2363. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT OF DIVISION ONE. ARTICLE TWO OF CHAPTER 23 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC SCHEDULES PROVIDING FOR THE PERMANENT CLOSURE OF NEBRASKA AVENUE BETWEEN ADAMS STREET AND GRAND BOULEVARD, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS RAILROAD SQUARE. PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT OF SECTION 3-5 OF CHAPTER THREE PERTAINING TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION OF CAVALIER SQUARE AND OTHER AREAS WITHIN RAILROAD SQUARE, PROVIDING FOR ALLOWANCE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN RAILROAD SQUARE DURING DESIGNATED TIMES. PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT OF [00:30:04] SECTION 23-46 OF CHAPTER 2323 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO ONE WAY STREETS PROVIDING FOR REMOVAL OF NEBRASKA AVENUE THEREFROM. PROVIDING FOR THE POSTING OF APPROPRIATE SIGNS. PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT. PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF RESOLUTION 2026-12 PERTAINING TO THE PERIODIC CLOSURE OF RAILROAD SQUARE, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE. AS INDICATED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. THERE ARE SEVERAL CONDITIONS IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO EFFECTUATE, AND CHIEF COACH IS PREPARED TO FULLY REPRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM TO YOU, MAYOR. SUBSTITUTE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2026 2363. AND THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FURTHER, THE INTENT OF MAKING RAILROAD SQUARE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA. AND I WILL SAY WHAT WE'RE SEEING THIS THIS PROJECT IS A GAME CHANGER FOR DOWNTOWN. WE'RE SEEING RAILROAD SQUARE BECOME A DESTINATION NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE IN WEST PASCO COUNTY, BUT BEYOND. SO WE'RE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF INCREASED PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON RAILROAD SQUARE AT NIGHT, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT. AND THIS ORDINANCE IS BASICALLY TIGHTENING UP THE RULES SO WE CAN BETTER MANAGE THAT AREA. AND THAT AREA FUNCTIONS AS IT'S INTENDED TO FUNCTION. SO THE ORDINANCE IN PART ESTABLISHES THE FOLLOWING FOR RAILROAD SQUARE, AS A CITY ATTORNEY SAID IN THE TITLE, THE PERMANENT CLOSURE OF NEBRASKA AVENUE FROM ADAMS STREET TO GRAND BOULEVARD. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NULLIFYING THE ONE WAY STREET THAT YOU APPROVE. SO THIS ROAD IS NOW PERMANENTLY CLOSED. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO PROHIBITS VEHICLES OF ANY KIND ON NEBRASKA AVENUE BETWEEN ADAMS STREET AND GRAND BOULEVARD. AGAIN, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO PERMANENTLY ESTABLISHES WET ZONE HOURS FROM 4 P.M. ON FRIDAYS UNTIL 2 P.M. ON SUNDAYS, AND IF A MONDAY FALLS ON A LEGAL HOLIDAY, THE WET ZONE IS EXTENDED TO 2 P.M. ON THAT DAY, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND GIVES US AUTHORITY TO ISSUE TRESPASS WARNINGS FOR ANYONE THAT VIOLATES STATE LAW, COMMITS VIOLATIONS OR CITY ORDINANCE, OR COMMITS OTHER CRIMES ON RAILROAD SQUARE. SO CITY ATTORNEY DRAFTED ORDINANCE 2026 2363 CERTIFIED AS TO LEGAL FORM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE ORDINANCE 2026 2363 ON FIRST READING, AND I BELIEVE THE MAP. WE HAVE AN ENHANCED MAP THAT'S. IT'S BETTER. IT'S MORE DIGITAL. YOU KNOW, THE CLARITY IS MUCH BETTER. SO I THINK THEY HAVE IT AT THEIR STATIONS, CORRECT? NO, IT WILL BE AT THEIR PLACES, AT THEIR SECOND. AT THE SECOND. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE MAP. THE MAP COULD BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR. YEAH. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHEN THIS ORDINANCE FINALLY GETS APPROVED, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE SOME OF OUR FORMS AND THE AXON PROGRAM. AND IF WE DO HAVE TO TRESPASS ANYONE, THEY WILL GET THIS MAP ALONG WITH WITH A FACE PAGE THAT CLEARLY TELLS THEM WHERE THEY CAN'T BE. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, TO THE MAKER. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS JUST WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE. I THINK THE AMOUNT OF TIME, EFFORT AND ENERGY THAT THE CITY HAS PUT INTO THIS PROJECT WARRANTS THIS. YOU KNOW, I THINK ON A TWO FOLD, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GOT THE PROJECT KIND OF COMPLETED AND YOU SEE HOW KIND OF TIGHT IT IS AND HOW PEOPLE ARE MOVING AROUND, IT JUST WASN'T CONDUCIVE FOR VEHICLES TO BE GOING DOWN THERE. SO I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND I THINK THE CHIEF PUT PUT TOGETHER A GOOD PRESENTATION. SO THANK YOU. SECOND. YEAH, JUST IF THE STAFF COULD FILL IN ANY GAPS, I MISS THE THAT ROAD THERE. NEBRASKA. CORRECT. SPENT SOME TIME I WOULD SAY WELL OVER A YEAR, POSSIBLY 2 OR 3 YEARS UNDER A WEEKEND TRAFFIC STUDY OF SORTS WHERE YOU PUT UP THE BARRICADES, YOU SAW HOW THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC WAS IMPACTED BY THAT, HOW THE BUSINESSES WERE IMPACTED. THEN YOU MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION, YOU DO A QUITE A BIT OF CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN YOU MOVE INTO A VERY SHORT LIVED ONE WAY ROAD THAT NOW HAS MORPHED INTO A FULL CLOSURE, ALL FOR THE NET BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC. AM I MISSING ANY PART OF THAT TIMELINE OR THAT'S A PRETTY SOLID SEQUENCE THERE. I'M BEING BRIEF WITH IT, BUT YOU'RE ARE BEING BRIEF. BUT BASICALLY IT WAS AN EIGHT MONTH CONSTRUCTION PERIOD AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INTERFACE ALONG THE WAY WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE CLOSURE OF THE ROAD IN ITS ENTIRETY. AND I THINK THAT THAT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO MY POINT, WHICH IS A LOT OF DELIBERATE THOUGHT, HAS WENT INTO THIS PROJECT FOR YEARS NOW. AND SO THE THE OUTCOME, THIS IS A BIG [00:35:07] WIN FOR THE BUSINESSES. AND TO MR. JONAS'S POINT, IT'S A BIG WIN FOR WALKABILITY AND SAFETY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING. THE DOWNTOWN CHIEF USED THE COMMENT DESTINATION. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD. AND SO I I'M GLAD WE'RE WE'RE FINALLY IN THIS PHASE WHERE WE CAN WHERE WE CAN GO THIS ROUTE. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS AT SOME POINT, WHATEVER THE CITY ADMINISTRATION THINKS IS APPROPRIATE, THAT WE COULD GET SOME SORT OF REPORT IN THE CITY MANAGER'S MEMO OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA DESIGNATED WITHIN THE MAP IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY USE FOR MEDICAL, IN TERMS OF TRESPASS. SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WHEN IT COMES TO PERSONNEL USE, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO CALLS, CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST. I MEAN, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU IF YOU THINK GIVE IT SIX MONTHS, GIVE IT A YEAR. I CAN ALWAYS REPORT BACK OR I CAN ALWAYS ASK ASK AGAIN. BUT HAVING SOME SORT OF DATA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I KNOW CHIEF HAS ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY, PRETTY ACTIVE PRESENCE THERE IN TERMS OF POLICE PRESENCE. SO THERE'S ALREADY A PROACTIVE APPROACH THERE. BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW, HOW, HOW THIS IS GOING TO INCREASE POLICE PRESENCE IN OUR DOWNTOWN. YEAH. THE, I GUESS THE PROGRESSION OF RAILROAD SQUARE IS I MEAN, JUST IT'S COME ALONG VERY NICE. AND REALLY HAVING THAT CLOSURE AND THE BUSINESSES THAT I'VE TALKED TO, THEY'RE FINE WITH IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING SO MUCH MORE OUT OF HAVING THE FOOT TRAFFIC THERE. THEY'RE FINE WITH DOING IT, DOING IT THE WAY THEY'RE DOING IT DURING CONSTRUCTION. SO EVERYBODY'S WINNING RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. IT'S A SAFE SPOT FOR FOR RESIDENTS TO GO. SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST AN OVERALL WIN FOR EVERYONE. I'M I'M FINE WITH THE MOTION ONCE WE GET IT. I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMES AND THE DATES. AND THE REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE I WAS IN THE BAR BUSINESS WHEN I FIRST CAME TO TOWN. AND THE BEST FRIDAY NIGHT YOU EVER HAVE IN DURING THE YEAR IS ON A WEDNESDAY, AND THAT'S THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE DATES IN THERE THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT, NOT JUST THE HOLIDAY MONDAY, THAT FRIDAY THAT THAT WEDNESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS A HOLIDAY THAT'S A HOLIDAY EVENING. SO I THINK JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE YOU'RE LIMITING IT PRETTY MUCH TO FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, UNLESS THERE'S A MONDAY HOLIDAY. BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON DURING THE YEAR AND A LOT MORE HOLIDAYS. SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AGAIN, I JUST POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS YOU TO DESIGNATE OTHER TIMES BY RESOLUTION. SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK YOU CAN DO. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH WE COME BACK FOR, OH, THERE'S THIS GOING ON THIS MONTH, THIS GOING ON THIS MONTH. SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR A LITTLE CLOSER FOR THE SECOND READING. I'M JUST GIVING ONE EXAMPLE THAT I KNOW FRIDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS A FRIDAY NIGHT. AND IF YOU COULD, ON THE SECOND READING, JUST SPELL OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IS IT? IF SOMEONE JUST NEEDS TO COME AND REQUEST IF THEY COULD BE HERE EVERY, EVERY MEETING, RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. SO WHAT IT PROVIDES IS YOU HAVE THESE SET HOURS THAT WERE DESCRIBED IN WHATEVER ADDITIONAL ONES MAYBE WE ADD AS A RESULT OF THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS. AND THEN IT JUST SAYS THAT YOU CAN SET OTHERS BY RESOLUTION. SO IT JUST GIVES YOU THAT LATITUDE AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A PROCESS FOR IT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE YOUR DISCRETION AS TO WHEN YOU WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL TIMES. WELL, I JUST THINK THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO HERE. EVERY, EVERY MEETING LOOKING AT THE NEXT MONTH BECAUSE SOMEBODY CAME AND SAID, THIS IS GOING ON OR THAT'S GOING ON. AND ALSO, I THINK WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON DOWN THE ROAD WITH RAILROAD SQUARE AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME AND THINGS THAT WANT TO GO TO, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO COULD BE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THAT'S HANDLED AND NOT JUST HERE, MAYBE IN YOUR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO SOME PREDICTIONS, BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT IT'S BY RESOLUTION MAKES IT EASY FOR US TO ADD DATES AS SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S STILL IT'S STILL COMING HERE. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PASSED EVERY TIME. I MEAN, HE'S IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD ANOTHER DAY OF THE WEEK BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. SO I JUST WANT TO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE SECOND READING. AND MAYOR, IF I IF I MAY BEFORE SO I CAN GET THIS IN BEFORE THE SECOND READING, IS IT POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE THE AN UPDATE, WHATEVER YOU COME BACK WITH, EITHER IN THIS ORDINANCE OR THROUGH RESOLUTION TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER A CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT, IF MET, SHE CAN JUST DESIGNATE A WET ZONE ON A CERTAIN DAY OR DOES THAT HAVE DOES IT HAVE TO COME THROUGH [00:40:03] COUNCIL? THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I THINK IT'S PREFERABLE TO HAVE IT APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES, ALCOHOL SALES. SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY PREFERABLE THAT YOU APPROVE IT. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND SEE IF THERE'S OTHER DATES THAT MAYBE SHOULD BE IN THE ORDINANCE. IN ADDITION TO THE RESOLUTION, OUR 4TH OF JULY IS GOING TO BE ON THE 4TH OF JULY, AND IT HAPPENS TO BE A SATURDAY THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY. SO GO ON. RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR [9.c) First Reading, Ordinance No. 2026-2364: Amendments to Chapter 23, Code of Ordinances RE: Micromobility Devices ] SIGNIFY BY I, I, I. OKAY, FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2026 2363 AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 23 CODE OF ORDINANCES. MICROMOBILITY DEVICES. THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2364. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NEW PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT OF CHAPTER 23 OF THE NEW PORT RICHEY CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC AND MOTOR VEHICLES, PROVIDING FOR A NEW ARTICLE FOUR THEREIN PERTAINING TO TRANSPORTATION DEVICES PROVIDING FOR PROHIBITION OF SUCH DEVICES IN RAILROAD SQUARE AND LIMITATIONS ON SUCH DEVICES AND OTHER AREAS. PROVIDING FOR EXCEPTIONS. PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS OF TERMS, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE CHIEF COACHING. IF YOU COULD REPRESENT THIS AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE 2026 2364. THIS ORDINANCE SETS FORTH RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING TRANSPORTATION AND MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES IN CHAPTER 23 OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. SO WITH INCREASED PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN OUR CITY PARKS AND IN RAILROAD SQUARE, THESE REGULATIONS AIM TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WHILE STILL PERMITTING THE USE OF THESE DEVICES AND MOST OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE. THE MAIN ELEMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE ARE AS FOLLOWS. TRANSPORTATION DEVICES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN RAILROAD SQUARE, WHAT WE CALL TRANSPORTATION DEVICE EXCLUSION AREA AT ANY TIME. THE RECKLESS OPERATION OF TRANSPORTATION DEVICE IS NOT ALLOWED WITHIN THE CITY. TRANSPORTATION DEVICES EXCEPT FOR BICYCLES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN ANY CITY PARK AT ANY TIME. HOWEVER, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO AREAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR SUCH DEVICES LIKE SKATEBOARD PARKS. CITY ATTORNEY TIM DRISCOLL DRAFT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026, 26, 2364 AND CERTIFY THOSE TO LEGAL FORM. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 2364 ON ITS FIRST READING. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION DO WE DEFINE WHAT A MICROMOBILITY DEVICE IS? WELL, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION DEVICES, SO IT SHALL MEAN ANY DEVICE USED FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF HUMANS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, MICROMOBILITY DEVICES, MOPEDS, ELECTRIC, PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICES, SKATEBOARDS, ROLLERBLADES, INLINE SKATES, COASTERS, AND OTHER SIMILAR DEVICES. I SOUND LIKE ONE OF THOSE CAR SALESMEN READING THE SMALL PRINT. THE TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE STROLLERS DESIGNED TO TRANSPORT CHILDREN OR DEVICES USED BY PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, OPERATING AS PROVIDED IN THIS ARTICLE. THIS DEFINITION IS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO AS YOU SEE, IT'S IT'S BROAD AND IT COVERS A LOT OF THINGS. DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? CHIEF? YES, DOCTOR DONALD CABLE, 6820 RIVER ROAD, NEWPORT. RICHIE, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP, BUT I HOPE THAT IT'S ONLY A FIRST STEP. AND I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT. NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE JUST SAW THAT THERE WAS A KID THAT WAS KILLED OVER IN LAKE NONA IN ORANGE COUNTY. HE TURNED RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF ANOTHER CAR OR TRUCK. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, NOT ONLY FOR RAILROAD, SQUARE AND PARKS, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND WHAT IT AFFECTS HERE. THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS AGE THERE. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT AGE AS FAR AS HOW OLD A PERSON SHOULD BE WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING ONE OF THESE, RIDING ONE OF THEM. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS WHETHER SOMEBODY HAS TO WEAR A HELMET. THIS PERSON THAT GOT KILLED WAS NOT WEARING A HELMET. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS PEOPLE THAT ARE MODIFYING THEIR BICYCLES OR WHATEVER MIGHT BE GOING ON. I JUST HAD A YOUNG MAN THAT USED TO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT STOPPED ME ON A BICYCLE. HE SAID, I CAN DO 45 MILES AN HOUR NOW. I MODIFIED THE BICYCLE, AND THAT'S PRETTY COMMON THING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. AND MAYBE THIS IS GOOD FOR WHERE IT'S ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO CLOSER. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT ARE LOOKING INTO MAKING REGULATIONS THAT ADDRESS THIS. ALSO, WHEN YOU READ THROUGH THIS, IT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY GOLF CART, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT [00:45:04] OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO CONCERTS IN THE PARK, AND THEY PARK THEIR GOLF CARTS. IN THEIR LAST CONCERT I WAS AT, THEY WERE THREE DEEP. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ALSO, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET IF THEY COULDN'T TAKE THEIR GOLF CART IN THERE TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERT. SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I HAD PROBLEMS, BUT THOSE ARE PRIMARILY IT, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER. LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY. I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE AS FAR AS KIDS BEING ON THE SIDEWALK ON THESE BIKES AND RUNNING PEDESTRIANS OFF THE SIDEWALK. SO I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS A SAFETY PROBLEM. AND IT'S NOT ONLY SAFETY PROBLEM FOR THE CITIZENS, BUT IT'S SAFETY PROBLEM FOR SOME OF THESE PEOPLE RIDING IT TOO. SO THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WITH RAILROAD SQUARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A BIG SAFETY ISSUE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVE TO LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE IN THE PARK, YOU KNOW, SENDING ME MESSAGES, YOU KNOW, GETTING UPSET BECAUSE THEY'RE WALKING THEIR DOG AND SOMEBODY ON AN E-BIKE ALMOST RUNS THEM OVER FROM BEHIND. LOOK, I LOVE BICYCLING. IT'S GREAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOCTOR CABLE WAS JUST SAYING THEY'RE MODIFYING THESE BIKES TO GO REALLY FAST, FASTER THAN THEY SHOULD. YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY FOLLOWED THE RULES, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. AND AND THE SAME GOES TRUE WITH, YOU KNOW, RAILROAD SQUARE IN THAT AREA. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M DOWN THERE VERY OFTEN AND AT LEAST 3 OR 4 TIMES A NIGHT, I SEE SOMEBODY DOING AT LEAST 33 RAILROAD SQUARE ON THEIR BICYCLE, YOU KNOW, PASSING RIGHT BY THE SIGNS THAT ARE THERE. SO IT'S, IT'S FRUSTRATING TO ME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT TO SEE IS SOME LITTLE KID WALKING AROUND OUT THERE AND GET HIT ON A BICYCLE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT TO SEE. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. AND IT'S AND IT'S A SHAME. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. AND I AGREE THIS IS A FIRST STEP. AND WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF BROADEN IT A LITTLE BIT. BUT OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE FUN FROM EVERYBODY. WE JUST NEED TO BE SENSIBLE ABOUT IT. SECOND, YEAH, BASICALLY WHAT HE SAID AND HE'S CORRECT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE EXAMPLE, RAILROAD SQUARE SITTING OUT THERE AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, ONE AFTER ANOTHER, BIKES, YOU KNOW, SCOOTERS, WHATEVER IT IS FLYING THROUGH THERE AND IT'S NOT BUSY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING. BUT WHEN THERE'S PEDESTRIANS AND IT IS BUSY, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A REAL HAZARD BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN INTO SOMEBODY AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THESE RULES AND AND STICK WITH THEM. YES, I, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL IN THE 90S WHEN A BOY WAS RIDING A SKATEBOARD ACROSS VAN BUREN, ACROSS INDIANA ON VAN BUREN, AND WAS KILLED BY A CAR. SO WE CAN WE CAN DO ALL WE THINK WE CAN DO TO TRY TO CONTROL BEHAVIOR AND MAKE PEOPLE WATCH. BUT THE RESULT OF THAT WAS A FOUR WAY STOP. AND THE CITY HAS PUT IN A LOT OF FOUR WAY STOPS. AND SO THE ANSWER THAT SOMEONE CAME EARLIER AND SAID TO THE PEOPLE, DON'T STOP. EVEN THOUGH THE STOP SIGNS ARE THERE. THAT REQUIRES THAT REQUIRES US TO BEAR DOWN ON THAT. MY WIFE OFTEN DISCUSSES THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING DOWNTOWN, JUST HOW FOLKS ARE WALKING ACROSS, WE USED TO CALL IT JAYWALKING. I GUESS THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THAT ANYMORE. KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, VIDEO STORES. BUT. PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE SLOW THEM DOWN. AND SO WE NARROW THE ROADS TO SLOW THEM DOWN, TO SLOW DOWN THE CARS, WHICH ARE REALLY WHAT CAUSES IT. AND THERE, AND I THINK, I THINK COUNCILMAN MURPHY, YOU WERE WITH ME WHEN WE HEARD THAT TRANSPORTATION THING A YEAR OR TWO AGO, AND I BROUGHT IT UP. BUT THEY PUT OUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE INJURIES THEY PUT, THERE WAS A STUDY THAT SHOWED THE SPEED AT WHICH A VEHICLE HITS A PERSON. AND THERE'S A POINT WHEN IT'S FATAL. AND SO. I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF PROTECTING FOLKS. THESE KIDS GO FLYING. THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD AT IT. THEY [00:50:02] DON'T HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY DON'T HIT THEM. AND WE CAN TRY TO STOP THEM ALL DAY. BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE ORDINANCE. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF SKATEBOARDS COUNT. I GUESS THEY WOULD. SKATEBOARDS SHOULD BE ON THE ROAD OR THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED AT ALL, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN. JUST LIKE OUR GOLF CARTS AREN'T ALLOWED TO CROSS HIGHWAY 19. EXCEPT NOW MAYBE WE HAVE SOME SPOTS FOR IT, BUT THEY DO IT EVERY DAY. AND I DON'T GUESS THERE'S BEEN MANY VIOLATIONS OF IT. SO TO THE TO THE COUNCILMAN MURPHY, THAT YOU SAY, BUT WE IF WE GOT THE RULE, WE HAVE TO STICK TO IT. WHEN WE MAKE RULES, PEOPLE EXPECT US TO STICK TO IT. AND SO PARTICULARLY THE RULE, WHICH NEEDS A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION IS THE GOLF CART. SO OUR OUR CITY MANAGER MENTIONED MOBILITY. YOU SAID NO, IT'S TRANSPORTATION. IT IS MOBILITY. IN MY MIND. I DON'T THINK THE GOLF CARTS ARE PART OF THIS. IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE THE WORD MICROMOBILITY OUT OF IT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THOSE ARE NOT, I DON'T THINK IN THE IN THE DEFINITION OF MICRO, UNLESS WE MAKE UP OUR OWN DEFINITION AND OUR OWN ORDINANCES, BUT TO THE POINT OF SIMS PARK, AND NOT BEING ALLOWED IN A PARK AND HAVING ALL THE SIDEWALKS AROUND ORANGE LAKE, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SIDEWALK. IT'S PRETTY MUCH ONE WAY. I'M NOT BOTHERED BY KIDS THAT DO IT SLOWLY AND, AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP IT. SO I JUST WANT TO BE THE REALISTIC TO SAY WE CAN HAVE A RULE IF SOMEBODY. AND THIS IS THE CASE, PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT OR LIKE RAILROAD SQUARE, WHICH IS TO THE POINT WHEN YOU HAVE A CROWD, YOU DON'T WANT TO ALLOW THEM THERE AT ALL. AND SO BUT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CROWD AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN ATTRACTIVE SIDEWALK, BEAUTIFUL NETWORK OF SIDEWALKS IN THE PARK, FUN TO RIDE THROUGH THEM, I'M SURE. MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A LINK. I'D LIKE TO THINK MORE OF A LINK ABOUT THE CROWD CONTROL. AND YOU CAN'T PUSH WALKABILITY AND THEN TELL EVERYBODY YOU CAN'T GET ON THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER THING, AND YOU CAN'T WRITE IT IN THE ROAD. I WAS IMPRESSED TO HEAR A POLICE VEHICLE ON THE LOUDSPEAKER TELLING A KID WHO WAS ON THE ROAD, YOU HAVE TO OBEY THE SIGNS. THAT WAS AT THE END OF GRAND BOULEVARD AT CIRCLE, AND I HEARD SOMEONE SAY, YOU KNOW, GET ON THE SPEAKER AND SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO RIDE, YOU GOT TO OBEY THE TRAFFIC LAWS. SO GOOD LUCK. IT'S A GREAT THING. WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS. BUT I'M NOT THINKING IT WAS A BAD THING TO SEE ALL THE FOLKS AT THE PARK. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT DESIGNATED AREAS AT DESIGNATED TIMES FOR THOSE KIND OF EVENTS, BECAUSE THEY PARKED ALL OVER, INCLUDING AROUND THE CIRCLE, TO HEAR AND TO BE PART OF THAT, JUST TO BE PART OF THE CROWD, EVEN IF THEY COULDN'T SEE THE STAGE. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION. I THINK ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE THAT. YEAH. I WOULD START BY SAYING THIS ORDINANCE IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO RAILROAD SQUARE, CORRECT? ALSO INCLUDES PARKS AND PARKS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONES WHERE THERE'S THERE'S SKATEBOARDS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. RIGHT. THE SECOND ONE, JUST ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION. THE STATE STATUTE CALLS FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN 50 POUNDS, GENERALLY NOT INCLUDED AS A MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION DEVICE. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD MEAN THE GOLF CART QUESTION IS THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE. SO THE THE DEFINITION OF TRANSPORTATION ADVICE DOES INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT IS DESIGNED AND USED FOR DESIGNED OR USE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF HUMANS. SO GOLF CARTS WOULD FALL INTO THAT. SO THEY'RE ALSO PROHIBITED BY THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU JUST READ ON FIRST READING. AND ON NEBRASKA AVENUE, WHERE THAT'S CLOSED SPECIFICALLY BY THAT ORDINANCE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING IF THERE'S SOME MAYBE TINKERING WITH THIS AS IT RELATES TO GOLF CARTS THAT I CAN PRESENT, MAYBE FOR SECOND READING, ESPECIALLY AS, AS COUNCILMAN ALTMAN SAID, FOR DESIGNATED AREAS, HAVING SOME EXCEPTIONS AS WELL. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT I CAN PRESENT YOU SOMETHING AT SECOND READING, POTENTIALLY TO ADDRESS THAT, OR YOU CAN LEAVE THAT DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER TIME AFTER YOU SEE HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED. BUT THE DEFINITION OF TRANSPORTATION DEVICES IS PURPOSELY BROAD. WE COULD EXCLUDE GOLF CARTS FROM THAT DEFINITION AND ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY IN OTHER WAYS. THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE GOLF CART ORDINANCE, SO THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE TO MAYBE ADDRESS THAT. AND SO FOR NOW, I COULD, IF YOU'D LIKE, I COULD TAKE OUT ON SECOND READING GOLF CARTS FROM THIS TRANSPORTATION DEVICE, BUT WE DON'T WANT THEM EITHER IN [00:55:02] THESE AREAS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCESSIBLE SOME OF THESE AREAS MIGHT BE FOR GOLF CARTS. AND MAYBE THE CHIEF COULD COULD ADDRESS THAT. YOU COULD GET GOLF CARTS INTO THESE AREAS, RIGHT? YES YOU CAN. YEAH. WELL, YOU SAID THERE'S A SEPARATE ORDINANCE. WE PASSED A SEPARATE ITEM. WE PASSED ADDRESSING THAT. THAT'S PERTAINS TO NEBRASKA AVENUE SPECIFICALLY. SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL OF RAILROAD SQUARE. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CAVALIER SQUARE IN THAT AREA. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OPEN QUESTION HERE ABOUT THE GOLF CARTS THAT I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO MORE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS, ADVERTISE AS MICRO MOBILITY IN THE AD FOR THE NEWSPAPER. IT'S NOT BEING ADVERTISED UNTIL THE NEXT READING. AND AS A RESULT OF SOME CHANGES TO THE TITLE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT READING AT THE NEXT MEETING. WE'LL HAVE TO BE THE MEETING AFTER TO MEET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS. SO IT IS BEING ADVERTISED AS TRANSPORTATION DEVICE, WHICH IS A TERM THAT WE'VE DEFINED THAT'S BROADER THAN THE STATE TERM, LIKE MOBILITY IS A STATE TERM. AND SO WE REFERENCE JUST THE STATE STATUTE FOR THAT. AND THAT INCLUDES BICYCLES AS WELL. SO THEY'RE INCLUDED IN WITH THAT. AND SO WE'VE ACCEPTED THEM OUT FROM THE PARK RESTRICTION BUT NOT FROM THE RAILROAD SQUARE RESTRICTION. SO YOU CAN'T EVEN RIDE BICYCLES IN RAILROAD SQUARE. YOU CAN WALK THEM THROUGH, BUT YOU CAN'T RIDE THEM. YOU CAN'T OPERATE THEM. I THINK WE SHOULD PUT AN INCLUSION IN THERE OF GOLF CART USE DURING SPECIAL EVENTS. AND THEN I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD DESIGNATE AN AREA, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE GOT 200 GOLF CARTS COMING INTO SIMS PARK TO WATCH THE EVENT. SO IF WE FORCE THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF THERE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? SO WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT IN THAT AREA WHERE THEY PARK IS NOT WHERE WHERE A PEDESTRIAN WOULD GO AND WATCH THE CONCERT ANYHOW. WELL, AS LONG AS WE KEEP THEM TO THAT SIDE, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GO TO THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL. SO I'M JUST THINKING IF WE CAN MAYBE DESIGNATE AN AREA LIKE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, ONLY GOLF CARTS CAN PARK HERE. WELL, I THINK IT'S JUST LIKE THAT LAST CONCERT THERE WAS THREE DEEP ALL THE WAY AROUND. RIGHT. BUT BUT BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE PEDESTRIANS, THEY ALL CAME IN IN THE CIRCLE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT'S WORKING OUT THE WAY IT IS SET UP RIGHT NOW. JUST WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ENFORCED. THEY CAN'T GET A GOLF CART IN THE CIRCLE ANYHOW. BUT BUT THAT WAS MY INITIAL QUESTION IS IF THIS IS IS IF THIS IS JUST RAILROAD SQUARE OR IF THIS IS THE PARKS, I MEAN, THE SIMS PARK SIGN STARTS ALL THE WAY OFF OF MAIN STREET. SO WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS SIMS PARK ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE? IS IT AT THE CIRCLE TO THE STAGE OR IS IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ROAD? IS IT AT THE PLAYGROUND? LIKE, WHERE DOES THIS PROHIBIT? BASICALLY BEGINS WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY ENDS. SO ANYTHING BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAYS THAT SURROUND IT IS PART OF THE PARK. AND THAT'S FOR ALL PARKS, NOT JUST SIMS PARK. SO IF SOMEONE PARKED AT BEHIND THE GATE WHERE THEY, IF A GOLF CART PARKED WHERE THEY NORMALLY TRADITIONALLY WOULD. CLOSER TO THE RIVER DURING A CONCERT, ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED. CORRECT. I AGREE THAT THAT THAT COULD POSE A PROBLEM. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, ONE MORE ISSUE. FRANCIS, PARK, THE DRIVEWAY IN THE PARKING LOT IS IN THERE. IT'S A BIG OPEN FIELD. THE IDEA OF A PARK TO SAY NO, NO, NO. AND TO OUR ATTORNEYS POINT, YOU INDICATED THAT WE DON'T WANT. BUT I DON'T REMEMBER US ASKING FOR THIS ORDINANCE. SO THE STAFF IS SUGGESTING THIS ORDINANCE TO US, BUT WE'RE THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHAT WE WANT. SO, I MEAN, IN THE CITIZEN'S OPINION, WELL, WE'RE THE VOTERS. I MEAN, I'M SAYING WE'RE GETTING THE CITIZENS OPINION. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT LEADS US TO ME. IT NEEDS A LITTLE WORK, YOU KNOW. BUT IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT AND BRING IT BACK AND TELL US WHAT IT IS WHEN WE DON'T GET TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF HEADWAY, BUT IT DEFINITELY NEEDS IT DEFINITELY NEEDS THAT WHOLE 80% AROUND THE PARK OR 75% AROUND THE PARK. THREE DEEP. I MEAN, THAT CONCERT THIS PAST WEEKEND IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. YOU, YOU, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT THEM IN HALF THE CIRCLE. RIGHT? WELL, THE LIBRARY'S EVENT DOWN BY THE RIVER ON THE CORNER, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PARKING ARRANGEMENT DOWN THERE. YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS DESIGNATED AS SPECIAL EVENTS AND THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS. THEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO THE CROWD CONTROL BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE JUST DOING THE OPPOSITE, WHICH IS NOW ANY EVENT, YOU HAVE THE CROWD WITH THE, WITH THE MESHING TOGETHER. WE DISCUSSED THIS AND YOU CAN GO WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MICROMOBILITY VEHICLES. AND, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT THAN A GOLF CART, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION ANYHOW. BUT, BUT I ALSO THINK AS FAR AS THESE MICRO, YOU KNOW, MOBILITY VEHICLES, THEY'RE A PROBLEM IN THE CITY. I MEAN, AND IT'S PROBLEM IS BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE [01:00:05] 12, TEN, 14, 15, THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A LEARNER'S PERMIT. AND SO THEY'RE NOT OBEYING THE STOP SIGNS. THEY'RE NOT OBEYING THE RULES. SAY, HEY, WE GO THERE WHEREVER WE WANT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE DID WHEN WE WERE KIDS, YOU KNOW? SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM. AND I THINK THIS IS JUST A START, YOU KNOW, BUT AND WE'LL ADDRESS IT AND SEE HOW THAT GOES. AND WE'LL GET FEEDBACK FROM THE POLICE AND SEE HOW IT GOES, IN MY OPINION. WELL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY. YEAH YOU DO, WE DO. YEAH YOU DO. AND I, I MADE MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT GOLF CARTS. I JUST WANTED TO ADD, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FROM DOCTOR CADDELL AND COUNCILMAN ALTMAN REGARDING SOME PEDESTRIANS THAT WERE THEN, THEN AND NOW TRAGICALLY STRUCK AND KILLED IN, IN ACCIDENTS. AND I WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT FOR THE REASON OF WHAT THIS DOES. WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS DOING IS TAKING AWAY AREAS THAT, IN MY MIND, ARE SAFER FOR FOR THOSE WHO ARE ON MICRO MOBILITY TO DRIVE ON IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT THE IMPACT OF THE ORDINANCE IS IT'S FORCING THEM ON TO ROADS WHERE THERE ARE CARS OR ON THE SIDEWALKS CLOSER TO CARS. AND SO I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ADD THAT SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO RAILROAD SQUARE AND ALSO THE PARKS, THAT THE PROBLEM YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO HERE IS AS YOU'RE TELLING KIDS AND ADULTS AND ANYONE ON BICYCLES OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, HEY, YOU CAN'T RIDE HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE FORCED CLOSER TO WHERE THE CARS ARE. ONE AND TWO. MORE IMPORTANT, JUST AS IMPORTANT, IS WE YOU TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OF PLANNING AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THE PINELLAS TRAIL AND CONNECTING IT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BUILD A CONNECTION BETWEEN TRAILS TO THE SOUTH AND THE EAST OF US. I THINK THE, THE BUSINESSES WOULD BENEFIT WOULD, WOULD ON A, ON A WEEKDAY, SEEK TO BENEFIT FROM AN INCREASE OF BICYCLISTS WHO ARE USING OUR TRAIL PASSING THROUGH, SEEING WHAT ALL NEW PORT RICHEY HAS TO OFFER. WE JUST CALLED RAILROAD SQUARE DESTINATION, AND I DON'T THINK THAT DESTINATION SHOULD JUST BE LIMITED TO THOSE WHO CAN PARK AND WALK, BUT SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE WHO ARE TRAVELING FROM FROM SOUTH ON BICYCLE. AND SO I THINK IN TWO WAYS, THIS ORDINANCE FALLS SHORT IN ADDRESSING THE GOLF CART ISSUE. BUT EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT, I THINK IT OVERLY EMPHASIZES THE PEDESTRIAN. WHEN WE JUST GOT DONE SAYING THAT THE PEDESTRIANS WOULD PREDOMINANTLY BE USING IT ON THESE SET DAYS DURING A WET ZONE. I THINK MY FIRST IMPRESSION OF RAILROAD SQUARE WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING ALONG ADAMS STREET AND LOOKING OVER AND SEEING TWO BICYCLES STROLLING PAST, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS AWESOME TO BE ABLE TO TO SEE BIKE ABILITY ON A ROAD THAT NORMALLY DIDN'T GET BIKE ABILITY. SO I THINK WE'RE LOSING THE BIKE ABILITY ELEMENT HERE. AND I SUPPORT WHAT COUNCILMAN ALTMAN SAID, WHICH WAS. PARAPHRASING, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OF CHARACTERIZE WHAT YOU SAID, BUT MAYBE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT CERTAIN TIMES OR CERTAIN PARTS OF THE DAY, CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WEEK WHERE BIKE ABILITY SHOULD BE ALLOWED, WHEN THE CROWDS AREN'T, WHEN THERE AREN'T CROWDS. I GET THE SAFETY ARGUMENT, I GET THE CROWD ARGUMENT, BUT I THINK EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS MAKING SURE THE THE BICYCLISTS AREN'T BEING LOST AND THEIR ABILITY TO ENJOY WHAT HAS SHAPED UP TO BE A $2.9 MILLION INVESTMENT INTO OUR DOWNTOWN WELL, PINELLAS TRAIL, PINELLAS BIKE TRAIL IS NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH RAILROAD SQUARE. IT IS PLANNED TO BE A BLOCK OR TWO SOUTH. SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A FACTOR. WELL, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DECIDED ON THAT, BUT IF I COULD JUST CHIME IN ON SOMETHING ELSE. SORRY, MATT. JUST IN REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT BIKE ABILITY. I MEAN, I'M A HUGE BIKER AND I BIKE TONS OF PLACES WHERE I CAN'T BIKE IN AN AREA, BUT I CAN BIKE TO IT, PARK MY BIKE, EAT LUNCH, WHATEVER, WALK BACK TO MY BIKE AND GO. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO DETER PEOPLE. BUT ONE THING I DID FORGET TO BRING UP AND IT STILL BUGS ME TO TODAY. MY WIFE AND I ARE WALKING THROUGH GRAPE PRESERVE ABOUT 3 OR 4 WEEKS AGO, AND I SEE TWO KIDS ON BIKES BLOWING BY ME, AND I SEE TWO OLDER GENTLEMEN COME UP TO ME AND SAY, MAN, THESE KIDS ALMOST RAN ME OVER. SO I, YOU KNOW, I LET THEM TELL ME THEIR STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED. AND I SAID, NO PROBLEM. AND AS I WAS PULLING IN, THERE WAS A GROUP OF 30 CUB SCOUTS AND THEIR PARENTS DOING AN EVENT THERE. AND ALL I'M THINKING IS THESE KIDS TEARING THROUGH THERE AND BLOWING THROUGH THIS GROUP OF 30 PEOPLE. AND OF COURSE, I'M WALKING AND THEY COME UP TO ME AND I SAID, HEY, YOU GUYS, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BIKE HERE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND OF COURSE, THEY GAVE ME SOME CHOICE WORDS AND GAVE ME THE FINGER AND TOOK OFF, SAID YOU WERE NUMBER ONE. THEY DID. AND I SAID, NO PROBLEM. WELL, SURE ENOUGH, THEY GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO THEM BECAUSE THE POLICE OFFICER [01:05:02] THAT LIVES OUT FRONT SAW THEM AND CHASED THEM INTO THE WOODS. SO, BUT EVEN WORSE THAN THAT, IT WASN'T EVEN JUST THAT THEY WERE KIDS. THEN AFTER THAT, I SAW TWO ADULTS RIDING THEIR BICYCLES ON THE BOARDWALK. SO TO ME, I JUST THINK IT'S MORE OF A COMMUNICATION TO PEOPLE BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF OUR ASSIGNING MIGHT NOT BE GREAT. SO I THINK PEOPLE MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED. SO I DON'T THINK BY DOING THIS IS GOING TO HURT PEOPLE COMING THERE. I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR OF WHAT THE RULES ARE SET FORWARD. AND TO MR. ALTMAN'S POINT, WE CAN MAKE THE RULES, BUT WHETHER THEY DO THEM OR NOT, IT'S UP TO THEM. BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE THE POLICE A TOOL TO ENFORCE, THEN THEIR HANDS ARE TIED. AND THAT'S MY AND THAT'S KIND OF MY BIG THING. IF WE GIVE THEM A TOOL TO WORK WITH, THEY CAN WORK WITH IT. AND I THINK ONCE THE WORD GETS OUT LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THIS. I THINK IT'LL BE BETTER. WE'VE JUST WE'VE MODIFIED THIS ENOUGH. ARE WE TABLING THIS AND HAVING A READING AGAIN OF THE FIRST READING? WELL, I THINK I CAN COME BACK WITH TWO VERSIONS FOR SECOND READING. I CAN PROVIDE THIS VERSION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AND AN ALTERNATE VERSION, AND THEN THAT MIGHT GET SOME MORE DISCUSSION GOING, AND YOU MAY END UP HAVING A THIRD READING AS A RESULT OF THAT AND SENDING US BACK TO COME BACK TO YOU. AND THAT'S FINE. I JUST WONDERED IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS AND WORK ON IT NOW AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER READING. I'M ASKING THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I, I WOULD, I'D BE HAPPY WITH COMING BACK WITH A SECOND READING VERSION FOR YOU. IF YOU WANT TO START OVER AND HAVE US PROVIDE A DIFFERENT DRAFT TO START OVER, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. EXCUSE ME. YEAH. MATT. SO FOR THIS FOR THIS ORDINANCE HERE, MICROMOBILITY DEVICES THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE GOLF CARTS. IT THE TRANSPORTATION DEVICE IS BROAD ENOUGH TERM THAT IT DOES INCLUDE THEM. SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO IS COME BACK TO YOU WITH AN EXCLUSION OF THAT TERM FROM THAT PARTICULAR DEFINITION, AND THEN PROVIDING SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR GOLF CARTS IN DESIGNATED AREAS, AND MAYBE ADDRESS THOSE IN A SEPARATE ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER ORDINANCE. YEAH. RIGHT. AS AS PART OF THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT MAKES MORE SENSE BECAUSE YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S TOO YEAH, IT'S TOO MESSY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE BICYCLES AND STUFF, THE BICYCLES DON'T HAVE TO STAY ON THE BIKE TRAIL. THEY CAN GO OFF ON THE ROADS ARE ALLOWED TO RIDE ON ROADS. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER IT GOES THROUGH GRAND BOULEVARD. IF IT GOES AROUND THE DOWNTOWN BEFORE YOU HIT DOWNTOWN. EITHER WAY, THEY CAN STOP, GET OFF AND WALK THROUGH AND LIKE NEBRASKA AVE, YOU KNOW, RAILROAD SQUARE, IT'S NOT THAT LONG. THE PARKS, I MEAN, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO RIDE THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT THEY CAN RIDE TO THEM. SO I DON'T I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT THAT'S TOO CRAZY OF A THING. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE RULES AND HAVING HAVING SOME REGULATIONS, IT GIVES OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE'S NO RULES. YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY CAN'T TELL THEM, GET OFF, DON'T DO THIS, DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO RULES. SO IT GIVES THEM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A, A VOICE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, KNOCK IT OFF. GET OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ACTING UP, WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE IT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO BE CHASING KIDS AROUND EVERYWHERE. UNLESS THEY'RE ACTING UP AND NOT BEING SAFE. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE NO RULES BECAUSE I HEARD MR. JONAS SAY IT. AND NOW MR. MURPHY SAID IT. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE, IF A IF A IF IF A BICYCLE, A BIKE, SOMEONE ON A MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE, A BIKE WERE TO DO SOMETHING CONSIDERED RECKLESS, IT IS IS IT CURRENTLY WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE AND THE POLICE'S AUTHORITY TO ASK THEM TO VACATE THE PARK AND OR TRESPASS THEM? NO, THIS ORDINANCE WILL GIVE THEM THAT AUTHORITY BECAUSE IT HAS A RECKLESS PROVISION AND ALSO HAS THE TRESPASS PROVISION. ARGUABLY, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY NOW. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I, I, YOU SAY YES, YOU SAY YES. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DID WE CLARIFY THE MOTION? DID YOU SAY YES? YEAH. OKAY. FIVE. NOTHING. OH, NO. I'M RUSHING HERE. WE'RE MAKING GOOD TIME, ACTUALLY. OKAY. FOUR AND ONE. NO. TWO. CAN WE JUST RETAKE THE VOTE? BECAUSE. OKAY. THREE. THREE. TWO. AYE AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NAY NAY. OKAY. THREE. TWO. AND I WILL BRING BACK ALTERNATE LANGUAGE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TIM. BOARD APPOINTMENT. GEORGE. HELP ME. GEORGE. AND HE IS IN ATTENDANCE [10.a) Board Appointment: George Thiebes, Parks & Recreation Advisory Board] THIS EVENING. FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. YES. AND MR. THEBES HAS SUBMITTED [01:10:08] HIS APPLICATION, AS YOU'VE INDICATED, TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. THE TERMS OF OFFICE FOR THAT BOARD ARE FOR THREE YEARS, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING HIS APPROVAL TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD. AND IF YOU DETERMINE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO FORWARD WITH AN APPOINTMENT FOR MR. THEBES, THEN HIS RENEWAL ON THAT BOARD OF HIS TERM WOULD BE ON MAY 19TH OF 2029, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM SERVE ON THE BOARD. DO YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK? SO GOOD EVENING, GEORGE. THEBES. I LIVE AT FOUR SEVEN, THREE ONE SANCTUARY DRIVE, NEWPORT. RICHIE 34562. SO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING MORE WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX YEARS NOW, SO IT'D BE GOOD TO BE HERE AND MORE INVOLVED. SO THANKS A LOT. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEE? NO. COME FORWARD. BRING IT BACK. APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENT OF GEORGE STEPHENSON. SECOND. NO. I'M HAPPY. ANYTHING? YEAH. JUST TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. FOR YOUR FOR STANDING UP AND WANTING TO SERVE. AND THANKS FOR YOUR 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE SERVICE. I KNOW THE FAMILY HAS AN ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THE SHORT TIME THAT THEY'VE A RELATIVELY SHORT TIME. WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS SITTING TO MY RIGHT, BUT THEY HAVE MADE THE MOST OF THE LAST SIX YEARS. THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN LOCAL ELECTIONS, LOCAL PRECINCT WORK, LOCAL VOLUNTEERISM, YOUR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS, AND SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO EXTEND THAT TO THIS BOARD, BRIAN. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING ON THE BOARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU MORE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT. HEY. WELCOME ABOARD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? IT'S FIVE. NOTHING. REQUEST A WAIVER FEE FOR THE 2025 CODY [10.b) Request to Waive Fees for 2025 Cotee River Bikefest] RIVER BIKE FEST. MR. MAYOR, MRS. TINA FARRELL REALLY WANTED TO BE IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. AND UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY SHE CALLED AND COULD NOT BE PRESENT. TONIGHT AND ASKED IF WE COULD DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL THE JUNE 2ND MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AT WHICH TIME SHE CAN BE PRESENT. ADDITIONALLY, EARLIER TODAY, DEPUTY MAYOR JONAS ASKED FOR A COPY OF A FINANCIAL REPORT FROM THE 2025 CODY RIVER BIKE FEST, AND I ASKED HER IF SHE COULD PROVIDE THAT IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING ON JUNE 2ND. SHE INDICATED SHE COULD GET THAT TO ME, AND I'LL DISTRIBUTE THAT TO YOU IN ADVANCE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING IT? OKAY. YES. OKAY. APPOINTMENT OF CITY COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE CITY [10.c) Appointment of Council Member to Participate with the City Manager in Negotiations with Pasco County Re: Interlocal Service Boundary Agreement] MANAGER. NEGOTIATIONS WITH PASCO COUNTY AND THE INTERLOCAL SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENT. AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, AT YOUR MEETING ON MARCH 17TH, 2026, YOU VOTED IN FAVOR OF INITIATING DISCUSSIONS WITH PASCO COUNTY IN RESPECT TO AN INTERLOCAL SERVICE BOUNDARY AGREEMENT RELATED TO RECREATION SERVICES. IN THAT RESPECT, THEY RESPONDED BACK TO THE CITY WITH A RESOLUTION UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING HAS BEEN SET FOR FRIDAY, MAY 22ND AT 9:00 AM, WHICH IS SET TO BE CONDUCTED BETWEEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MIKE KARBALA AND MYSELF. THE FLORIDA STATUTES, THOUGH, CLEARLY INDICATE AND. OPENLY SUGGEST THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS SHOULD INVOLVE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEREFORE, I AM ASKING YOU TO APPOINT A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS ALONG WITH ME, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER APPOINTING COUNCILMAN ALTMAN TO GO ALONG WITH ME TO THE NEGOTIATIONS ON THAT DAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE COUNCILMAN ALTMAN ACCOMPANY FOR THOSE WE. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK. AND FOR YOUR. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. THE MAKER. NO, HE'S THE ONE THAT'S [01:15:02] BEEN MOST INVOLVED WITH IT. SO IT MAKES. MAKES SENSE. NO, I AGREE WITH MR. MURPHY. YOU KNOW, PETER'S BEEN INVOLVED. HE'S BEEN KIND OF SPEARHEADING THIS ITEM. AND I THINK OUT OF THE GROUP HERE, I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE THE MOST BACKGROUND IN REFERENCE TO THAT. SO I THINK HE WOULD GIVE US THE BEST REPRESENTATION. SO YEAH, TO MR. JONAS'S POINT, MR. ALTMAN HAS SERVED ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION BEFORE. HE'S VERY ATTUNED ON THE THE RESOLUTION AND THE TOPIC BEFORE US, AND HE'S BEEN INVOLVED SINCE THE START. HE HAS A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS POINT TO HIM BEING A THE APPROPRIATE CHOICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR NEEDS MET AS A CITY WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT. YOU WANT TO BRAG ON YOURSELF, PETE? NO, I BETTER STOP WHILE I'M AHEAD. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. IT'S FIVE. NOTHING. CONSIDER. AMENDMENT [10.d) Consider Addendum Three: Extension of 2023 Interlocal Agreement for Legal Services w/Pasco Sheriff] AMEND. YEAH. RIGHT. THREE. NUMBER. AMEND. YEAH. RIGHT. AMEND THEM. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. NUMBER THREE EXTENSION OF THE 2023 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR LEGAL SERVICES WITH PASCO SHERIFF. THE ADDENDUM THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO EXTEND WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RELATES TO OUR RISK PROTECTION ORDERS THAT ARE PROCESSED THROUGH THE CIRCUIT COURT AND THE STATE. THE CHIEF COACHMAN CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO I'M UP TO BAT AGAIN. SO, YES, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO APPROVE ADDENDUM THREE, WHICH EXTENDS THE 2023 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE PASCO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO BASICALLY PROSECUTE OUR RISK PROTECTION ORDERS. THIS, WITHOUT A DOUBT, IS A BEST PRACTICE. SO UNDER SEVEN 9401 STATE LAW BASICALLY EMPOWERS US TO GO FOR A RISK PROTECTION ORDER FOR ANYONE THAT'S A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. THIS IS A VERY GOOD LAW. NOBODY THAT IS A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO POSSESS OR OWN OR HAVE A CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT FOR A FIREARM. SO WE WORK WITH THE PASCO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE FOLKS OBVIOUSLY ARE AFFORDED FULL DUE PROCESS THROUGH THE CIRCUIT COURT. A JUDGE CAN AWARD US TO HOLD THE GUN FOR UP TO ONE YEAR, AND THAT CAN BE EXTENDED BASED ON HOW THE PERSON IS ACTING OR IF THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE POSSESSION OF THEIR FIREARM BACK. ALSO, THE SYNERGIES BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND OUR DEPARTMENT ARE PHENOMENAL. SO WHEN WE WHEN WE BASICALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH AN RPO, OUR LIFT TEAM AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WORK TOGETHER. AND ONCE WE GET THE INJUNCTION IN PLACE, THE LIFT TEAM ACTUALLY MAKES CONTACT WITH WITH THESE FOLKS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, SEE IF THEY NEED HELP, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. WE CONSTANTLY SAY IN COMMUNICATION WITH THESE FOLKS MORE TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING. AND BASICALLY SO AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES THE SAME THING ON THEIR SIDE, BUT SOMETIMES WE OVERLAP AND WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT. SO THIS REALLY IS A GOOD AGREEMENT. WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. WE'VE DONE 12 OF THEM SO FAR SINCE 2022. SO TIM, OUR OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED ADDENDUM TWO AND APPROVED AS TO FORM. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU APPROVE ADDENDUM THREE. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THREE OF THE 2023 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE PASCO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROSECUTE OUR RISK PROTECTION ORDERS. AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND. YEAH, I THINK THE CHIEF SAID IT WELL WHEN HE SAID THAT THERE'S THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THE LIFT TEAM IS PROVIDED TO. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM SOMEONE, IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING THEM THE NECESSARY SUPPORT. AND WHEN YOU THINK OF THE THE PERSONAL INJUNCTIONS BETWEEN PEOPLE, DOMESTIC DOMESTIC ABUSE CASES AND AND OTHER INSTANCES OF MENTAL HEALTH WHERE THIS IS NECESSARY. I APPRECIATE THE CHIEF FOR BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT THERE BEING A 12 COUNT SINCE THE AGREEMENTS SINCE THE ADDENDUM, EXCUSE ME, SINCE THIS AGREEMENT WAS PUT INTO PLACE AND THE ADDENDUMS THEREAFTER, IT SHOWS THAT IT IS BEING USED, IT'S BEING PUT INTO IT, THERE'S A NEED FOR IT AND IT'S BEING USED. IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING WE PASS. IT'S IT HAS A NECESSARY POWER TO BE ABLE TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. SO THANK YOU. SECOND, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR KEEPING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PASCO COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOING GREAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUED USE WITH THEM. THANK YOU MATT. I'M GOOD PETE. YEAH, I ATTENDED THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING THING A FEW MONTHS BACK IN AT THE COUNTY BUILDING. I THINK THAT YOUR REQUEST, MR. MAYOR, OR SOMEHOW YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT THE ATTORNEYS AND THE THE EMPATHY THAT IS GIVEN FOR THE VICTIMS, REALLY, OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. AND IT OFTEN BEGINS IN THOSE [01:20:04] THAT ARE THE MOST NEEDY, OR PERHAPS VULNERABLE, NOT LEGALLY HERE OR WHATEVER THE CASE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GREAT NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PROBLEMS IS AND TRY TO DEAL WITH THEM. AND I THINK THAT THE USE OF LEGAL SERVICES IS ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL, BENEFICIAL ACTION FOR THOSE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE THAN WE ARE THE TEAM EFFORT. AND THEY THEY HAVE A HUGE TEAM. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I, I IT'S FIVE NOTHING. REQUEST. APPROVAL [10.e) Request Approval of Police Federal Equitable Sharing Expenditures ] OF POLICE. FEDERAL. EQUITABLE. SHARING. EXPENDITURES. REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FEDERAL. FEDERAL EQUITABLE SHARING FUNDS FOR SOME EXPENDITURES THAT DO NOT EXCEED $110,000 AND ADDITIONALLY, TO APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO SUPPORT THE USE OF THE. THE FUNDS ON TWO EXPENDITURES WHICH THE CHIEF WILL PRESENT TO YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO, AS CITY MANAGER SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT THE REQUEST IS. IT'S $110,000. AND I LOVE USING FORFEITURE FUNDS BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING FUNDS THAT WERE ACQUIRED FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND WE'RE PUTTING THE GOOD USE. THIS IS NOT TAXPAYER MONEY. IT'S NOT GENERAL FUND MONEY. THIS IS MONEY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS US TO REINVEST BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THIS IS THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO THESE FUNDS DO EXIST TO BASICALLY TAKE THESE ILLEGAL FUNDS AND REINVEST THEM BACK INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS I ALWAYS SAY, THERE IS A LOT OF OVERSIGHT TO THIS. WE NEED APPROVAL FROM OUR OWN COUNCIL. WE ARE OBLIGATED BY THE STATE. WE ARE AUDITED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OVERSIGHT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING ON HOW WE SPEND THESE FUNDS. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES IN OUR FORFEITURE FUND UP TO 110,000 FOR TWO THINGS. THE FIRST THING IS A POLICE UTILITY VEHICLE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO OF THEM THAT WE PURCHASED OUT OF FORFEITURE, AND THESE VEHICLES ARE INVALUABLE. WE'VE SEEN THEM AT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. WE'VE SEEN THEM AT CHASCO. WE USE THEM AT THE RIVER BIKE FEST. WE USE THEM DOWNTOWN. ANOTHER VEHICLE WOULD REALLY COMPLEMENT OUR DEPARTMENT AND HELP SERVICE, ESPECIALLY THAT DOWNTOWN AREA. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL TO PURCHASE ONE POLICE UTILITY VEHICLE UP TO $30,000. AND THIS WILL INCLUDE OBVIOUSLY THE LIGHTS, THE ACCESSORIES AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO OUTFIT THE VEHICLE. THE OTHER EXPENDITURE IS TO PURCHASE UP TO 55 UPGRADED POLICE RIFLES, WHICH WILL REPLACE EXISTING DEPARTMENT RIFLES THAT ARE AT OR BEYOND THEIR END OF LIFE CYCLE. AND WE ALWAYS USE THE TERM UPGRADED AND FORFEITURE BECAUSE WE CAN'T SUPPLANT THE REGULAR BUDGET. SO THESE RIFLES ARE VERY OLD AND THEY'RE CYCLED OUT. AND THIS IS WHAT THIS MONEY IS INTENDED TO BE USED FOR, THINGS LIKE THIS, SO THAT THAT EXPENDITURE WILL NOT EXCEED $80,000. AND THAT'S FOR THE RIFLES, THE TRAINING, THE ACCESSORIES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE RIFLES. SO BASICALLY THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE OUR EXPENDITURES OF FEDERAL EQUITABLE SHARING EXPENDITURES UP TO AND NOT TO EXCEED $110,000. WE ALSO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT ALLOCATES THESE FUNDS INTO POLICE DEPARTMENTS. FY 2526 BUDGET. SO BASICALLY POLICE. FEDERAL FEDERAL EQUITABLE SHARING ACCOUNT IS THE BUDGET BUDGET FISCAL IMPACT OF $110,000. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT GENERAL FUND MONEY. THIS IS FORFEITURE MONEY. SO I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, NO, I MEAN, I MEAN, I SEE THE THE TVS OUT ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE THEY'RE GREAT. I THINK IT SHOWS A LITTLE LESS, YOU KNOW, POLICE ENFORCEMENT LOOK, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I KIND OF LIKE THAT, THAT LITTLE DOWNPLAYED LOOK. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GOING OFF THE CHIEF'S RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ARMORY THAT IS IS OUT OF DATE OR GETTING READY TO BE OUT OF DATE, I THINK WE NEED TO UPDATE IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO BE THERE. GOD FORBID. WE NEED IT. SO THANK YOU. SECOND. SOUNDS GOOD. JUST A QUESTION. YOU SAID FORFEITURE. AND YOU ALSO SAID EQUITABLE SHARING. BUT FOR THE FINANCE OFFICER, I GUESS SO THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER. BUT I UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE FUNDS, TWO SEPARATE EQUITABLE SHARE OF MONEY. SO FEDERAL EQUITABLE SHARING IS FEDERAL FORFEITURE STATE. SO THIS IS EQUITABLE SHARING. SOMETIMES I USE THAT WORD FORFEITURE BUT IT'S EQUITABLE SHARE. SO I AM MENTIONING IT BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO STRAIGHTEN MYSELF OUT ON IT A FEW TIMES. AND I THINK THAT THE EQUITABLE SHARING REQUIRES A FEDERAL, AS YOU SAY, MUCH MORE OVERSIGHT. AND I'M GUESSING THAT THE FINANCE OFFICER IS THE IS THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS TO FILE [01:25:01] THOSE FORMS EVERY YEAR. LITTLE EXTRA WORK THAT YOU'RE GIVING OVER TO HER. YEAH, WE GET AUDITED. SO WE WORK WITH FINANCE, WE WORK WITH EVERYBODY, FILL OUT ALL THE PROPER PAPERWORK. YEP. SO WHETHER IT'S OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS, EQUITABLE SHARING FUNDS OR FORFEITURE FUNDS, I THINK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT GIVES THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR OWN ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM PLENTY OF WORK WHEN IT COMES TO USING THOSE FUNDS, BECAUSE THEY DO SO IN WAYS THAT ARE VERY INTENTIONAL AND MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S HONEST. AND THAT BEING SAID, YES. AND THEN ON THE POINT OF THE RIFLES, I THINK IT IS CRITICAL THAT THE GOOD GUYS AND THE PROFESSIONALS HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I, THAT'S FIVE. NOTHING. PEACE. [10.f) Peace Hall Renovations Project Task Order No. 26-019 – Engineering Services] ALL. RENOVATIONS. PROJECT TASK ORDER NUMBER 26019. ENGINEERING SERVICES. THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH RGA DESIGN LLC AND IT IS TO COVER DESIGN, PERMITTING BID AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE FOR THE 2026 PEACE HALL RENOVATION PROJECT. WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY FROM RGA DESIGN LLC AND WILL HAVE COLIN FOLEY REPRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM AND ASK THEM TO COME UP. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THE PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDED, THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT. WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE CAPITAL PROJECT, BUT IN LARGE PART, MANY OF THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHICH WE WOULD BE SEEKING FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECTS REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE FULL BID SPECIFICATIONS AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME. AND COLIN, IF YOU COULD TAKE IT FROM THERE. YEAH, VERY WELL PUT. AND THANK YOU, MISS MANCE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE ATTACHED ENGINEERING SERVICES TASK ORDER IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $108,750 WITH RG DESIGN LLC. AND THIS AGAIN IS FOR THE DESIGN, PERMITTING BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS 2026 PEACE HALL RENOVATION PROJECT. AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, PEACE HALL IS ONE OF THE CITY'S MOST HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES. I'VE DETAILED THAT PRETTY THOROUGHLY IN THE MEMO, AND ONE OF THE THE THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT THERE IS IN 1921, WHEN THE STRUCTURE WAS PICKED UP BY A STORM AND SHIFTED FROM SOUTH TO WEST FACING, AND THEY JUST KIND OF LEFT IT LIKE THAT AND WENT WITH THAT FOR YEARS. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY COOL THING TO HIGHLIGHT. IT SERVED THE COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL FACILITY SERVED AS THE AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY CULTURAL FACILITY FOLLOWING ITS RELOCATION AND RESTORATION WITHIN SIMS PARK. AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS INTENDED TO IMPROVE THE FUNCTIONALITY AND USABILITY OF THIS BUILDING WHILE PRESERVING THAT HISTORICAL CHARACTER THAT WE CARE ABOUT SO MUCH AND ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE STRUCTURE. THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE UPGRADES TO FINISHES AND INSTALLATION OF CODE COMPLIANT COMPONENTS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE 2025 DEFICIENCY ANALYSIS. THE CITY IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH RG DESIGN ON SEVERAL PROJECTS, INCLUDING CITY HALL, CAMPUS RESILIENCY PROJECT AND THE JAMES E GRAY PRESERVE RESTROOM PROJECT. BASED ON THE FIRM'S EXPERIENCE, PERFORMANCE, AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION GOALS, STAFF BELIEVES FIRMLY AND CONFIDENTLY IN THE ABILITY OF RG TO PROVIDE A DESIGN THAT IS BOTH FUNCTIONAL AND RESPECTFUL TO THE FACILITY'S HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. WITH THAT, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. FISHER, WHO'S WITH RG DESIGN, WHO WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED RENOVATION PROJECT. YES. HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. I'M MILES FISHER, I'M THE MANAGER OF DESIGN OPERATIONS AT RG A. I BROUGHT A COUPLE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TEAM HERE AS WELL. WE'VE GOT CONNOR COUGHLIN AND JOSEPH NUNES. BUT AND YES, AS COLIN MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM ON, ON A FEW DIFFERENT FACTORS, RIGHT. AND IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE AND SEE HOW MUCH EFFORT AND INTENTION THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO ENHANCING ALL THE PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT YOU HAVE HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE WORKING ON THIS BUILDING HERE IN TERMS OF RESILIENCY, WE'RE WORKING IN SIMS OFFICE OR POTENTIALLY IN SIMS PARK AND JAMES E GRAY PRESERVE, AS WELL AS RAILROAD SQUARE, NOW PEACE HALL, AS I'M SURE YOU HAVE SEEN AND KNOW, IT'S IT'S A BUILDING THAT HAS A LOT OF CHARACTER AND A LOT OF HISTORY, BUT IT DOES NEED SOME [01:30:06] LOVE, RIGHT? IT NEEDS SOME HELP. WE BEGAN THIS LAST YEAR WITH A ARCHITECTURAL DEFICIENCY STUDY. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE'S A LONG LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE COULD GET INTO. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT IT NOT ONLY NEEDS TO HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THEIR RESILIENCE, RIGHT? THE BUILDING IS NOT CODE COMPLIANT IN ANY WAY, RIGHT? FROM AN INSULATION PERSPECTIVE, FROM A HURRICANE PERSPECTIVE, FROM A ADA CODE COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE, OBVIOUSLY A HISTORICAL BUILDING. BUT IN TERMS OF MITIGATING RISK FACTORS, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO BRING FACILITIES LIKE THIS INTO CODE COMPLIANCE. NOW, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN SOME OF THESE IMAGES, THE INTERIOR AND THE EXTERIOR FACTORS OR INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING ARE ALL IN VARIOUS STATES OF DISREPAIR. THE INTERIOR FLOORING IS FALLING APART, THE SIDING ON THE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, THE GUTTER SYSTEMS. THIS IF YOU SEE THE PICTURE IN THE IN THE MIDDLE BOTTOM THERE. THAT'S HOW THIS STRUCTURE IS SUPPORTED. NOW, CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT STRAPPED DOWN WITH ANY KIND OF HURRICANE TIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND FRANKLY, WE TAKE ONE STRONG STORM TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS BUILDING AWAY AND RUIN IT. NOW AS WE COME IN AND WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL RESILIENCE, BRING IN AND UPGRADE THESE FACTORS WHILE MAINTAINING ITS CHARACTER. WE HAVE DECIDED TO EXPAND THE FACILITY. RIGHT. WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN EVENT SPACE AND IT COULD BE USED FOR WEDDINGS OR. I KNOW THAT IT'S IT'S CALLED A LINE DANCING FACILITY ON THE MAPS AND WHATEVER. BUT THE BUILDING DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE THOSE ELEMENTS EFFECTIVELY AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? IT NEEDS MORE RESTROOMS. IT NEEDS THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY UPGRADED. I MEAN, THE AIR HANDLERS ARE STRAPPED UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING. THE CONDENSERS ARE THERE. WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE ALL OF THAT UP, GET IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, AND THEN MAKE THE BUILDING JUST MORE USABLE. IN GENERAL. YOU'LL SEE IN THE RENDERINGS THAT COME IT IS IT HAS AN ADA RAMP NOW, BUT THE RAMP SENDS THE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO'S, YOU KNOW, IMPAIRED IN ANY WAY TO A SIDE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING. AND FOR US AS ARCHITECTS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT INCLUSIVE IN ANY WAY. AND WE WANT TO MAKE THIS A FOCAL POINT IN THE SIMS PARK AREA THAT EVERYBODY CAN, CAN CELEBRATE AND CAN ENJOY. YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS WOULD BE OUR, YOU KNOW, SCHEMATIC LEVEL INTENTION WITH THE UPGRADE TO THE BUILDING, RIGHT? IT KEEPS ALL OF THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS, THE, THE WHITE AND THE PEACE AND THE SAME ENERGY THAT IT'S ALWAYS HAD. BUT WE'RE BRINGING THIS INTO A WAY THAT THE ENTRY CAN BECOME A FOCAL POINT, RIGHT? IT CAN BECOME A BACKDROP FOR PHOTOS, AND IT CAN ALSO IMPROVE THE USABILITY OF THE EXTERIOR SPACE AROUND AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS NEXT PICTURE, THIS IS WHAT THAT RAMP WOULD LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? THE CURRENT RAMP THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE, IT'S RUSTED, IT'S FALLING APART. IT'S DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE TO USE. AND YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, RIGHT. WE'LL BE UPGRADING AND I GUESS REPLACING ALL OF THE SIDING, WE'LL BE REPLACING ALL THE WINDOWS, ALL THE DOORS, MAKING IT ALL IMPACT RATED, CODE COMPLIANT. WE'RE ADDING BRICK SKIRTING AROUND THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF THE LOOK AND THE FUNCTIONALITY. AND THEN ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WE WOULD BE EXPANDING THE MORE UTILITARIAN SYSTEMS THAT THE BUILDING HAS, RIGHT? WE'D ADD MORE RESTROOMS, WE'D ADD A DEDICATED MECHANICAL SPACE, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE AUDIO VISUAL CAPABILITIES IN THE BUILDING SPEAKER SYSTEMS, LIGHTING SYSTEMS THAT YOU CAN CONTROL, ALL IN WAYS THAT WE CAN MODERNIZE, RIGHT, AND BRING THIS FACILITY INTO THIS DAY AND PRESERVE THE, THE FEEL THAT IT'S ALWAYS HAD THERE. NOW THIS IS AGAIN, HERE, THIS IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE BEYOND BASIC RENOVATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE, RIGHT. WE COULD ALWAYS JUST COME IN AND, AND REPLACE THE SIDING, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THE BIGGER ISSUE THAT THIS FACILITY IS SURE TO HAVE GOING INTO THE FUTURE, RIGHT? ADDING THE GAZEBO ON THE FRONT, ADDING THE EXTENSION ONTO THE BACK OF THE FACILITY, KITCHENETTE, SERVING SPACES INSIDE THE THE FLOORING HAS SOME DIFFERENT MULTILEVEL ISSUES. WE'D BE BRINGING EVERYTHING UP TO THE SAME LEVEL AND YEAH, FIXTURES, RIGHT? [01:35:01] WE'LL BRING CONTEMPORARY FIXTURES THAT HAVE THAT KIND OF RETRO FEEL TO THEM SO THAT IT HAS THE EXACT SAME FEEL, THE EXACT SAME ENERGY THAT IT'S ALWAYS HAD. BUT IT'S NOW A BUILDING THAT YOU CAN CELEBRATE. IT CAN BE A FOCAL POINT IN THE PARK AREA, AND SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HAVE FOR YEARS TO COME. SO THANK YOU. EVERYBODY. PUBLIC INPUT. I DON'T MIND JUST STEPPING ASIDE. YOU HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE COMING DOWN. DONNA PENDLETON JOHNSON 5922 WYOMING AVENUE, NEW PORT RICHEY. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT WE'RE DOING. I LOVE IT, BUT I HAVE JUST A FEW LITTLE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO ADD. I HOPE, BECAUSE WE'RE IT'S A HISTORICAL BUILDING THAT WE KEEP THE HISTORY THERE. I HOPE WE DON'T GO WITH VINYL SIDING, THAT WE GO WITH THE BOARD AND BATTEN THAT'S ON THERE, OR LAP SIDING, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. ALSO, I'D LIKE THE WINDOWS TO BE THE SAME HISTORICAL WINDOWS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BUILDING WHEN IT WAS BUILT. THEY ARE AVAILABLE ALSO THE STAGE AREA. OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE WEST PASCO HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND MUSEUM, AND WE USE THE THE BUILDING EVERY MONTH FOR FREE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY. WE LIKE THE STAGE BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT GIVES OUR PEOPLE A PLACE TO ACTUALLY PERFORM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PERFORMANCE THERE WITH THE DA IN THE COMING MONTHS. THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT STAGE. SO HAVING A STAGE IS KIND OF NICE TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE, SAY YOU HAVE A WEDDING THERE, YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ELEVATED FOR THE WEDDING. YEAH. ALSO A LITTLE KITCHENETTE. I LOVE THAT IDEA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON THERE, WE, WE HAVE A LITTLE SINK AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO ADD. ALSO, WHEN WE'RE DOING A PROJECT, A PROGRAM THERE AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S DOING. THEY HAVE A PROJECTOR PROJECTION AND WE CAN'T SEE IT. THE SCREENS BECAUSE THE WINDOWS HAVE NO COVERINGS ON THEM. AND WE'VE ASKED FOR THIS BEFORE. I KNOW THAT OUR PRESIDENT OF THE SOCIETY HAS ASKED FOR SOME TYPE OF COVERINGS, AND THEY TOLD US NO. SO IF WE COULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF COVERINGS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO USE A PROJECTOR, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME. SO THAT WOULD HELP. BUT I LOVE THE BUILDING. I LOVE THE ENTRANCE TO IT, THE WALK. WE NEED THINGS DONE. I HOPE WE GO WITH WOOD FLOORS LIKE ARE THERE. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE THE HISTORICAL PART OF IT. BEING PART OF THE PRESERVATION BOARD FOR THE CITY. I ALSO ASK THAT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. WE NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON THIS. YOU WANT TO DISCUSS FIRST, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. SECOND MAKER. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT DONNA IS SAYING. I MEAN, I'M ON THE BOARD. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN SPENDING WEEKS THERE AT A TIME, SO I KNOW THE CONDITION IT'S IN. I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING WITH TRYING TO KEEP IT LOOKING FROM WHEN IT WAS BUILT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT UP TO CODE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT HURRICANE WINDOWS AND DOORS IN THERE SO WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THE LOOK AS OLD AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS, BUT YEAH, OF COURSE. YEAH, THAT THAT IS THAT'S THE INTENTION WE'RE GOING TO I MEAN, THE WINDOWS AREN'T EVEN FUNCTIONAL RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T EVEN OPEN THEM. BUT WE'LL KEEP THAT EXACT SAME LOOK. BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, MODERNIZE IT CODE COMPLIANCE. SO UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD KEEP WOOD FLOORS IN THERE. THAT WOULD BE NICE. YOU KNOW, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE MULTI LEVEL, BUT I THINK FOR FUNCTIONALITY ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK ONE LEVEL WOULD MAKE THIS BUILDING DEFINITELY MORE USABLE. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS INVESTMENT, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING IT MORE. YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY USE IT. CHASKA USES IT. BUT TO ME, I THINK THIS COULD BE A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, WEDDING VENUE. I MEAN, I GOT MARRIED AT OUR LADY QUEEN OF PEACE. YOU KNOW, I TOOK MY PICTURES IN SIMS PARK. SO TO ME, YOU KNOW, I GOT A DAUGHTER WHO'S GETTING READY TO GET MARRIED. TOO BAD IT WASN'T READY. SO THANK YOU GUYS, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ME, RIGHT? IT WAS YOU. SECOND GOOD POINTS, MR. JONES. I WOULD START BY SAYING I KNOW [01:40:03] THE RECREATION AND AQUATIC CENTER HAS SOME FREQUENTED USE IN THIS FACILITY THROUGH ITS EVENTS AND ALSO THROUGH VENTURING OUT FOR CERTAIN PRIVATE VENUES, WHETHER IT BE WEDDINGS OR BABY SHOWERS AND WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AS WELL AS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, AS DONNA BROUGHT UP, IS A FREQUENT USER OF THAT FACILITY. SO IF THOSE TWO STAKEHOLDER GROUPS HAVE NOT BEEN CONTACTED ALREADY IN REGARDS TO THEIR INPUT, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO DO THAT. BUT THAT BEING SAID, THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, THE THE TASK ORDER, THE HISTORIC CONTEXT PROVIDED BY MR. MUELLER, I THINK IT REALLY PAINTS THE PICTURE, THE IT GIVES A SENSE OF THE TONE, AND IT HITS A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY ALREADY BROUGHT UP. AND I THINK THAT THE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A DESIGN LLC, WHICH IS PARTNERED WITH US ON JAMES GRAY PRESERVE AND, AND CITY HALL PROJECTS, IS THAT THEY KNOW SOME OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY ALREADY WANTS. AND SO THEY'VE HIT SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS, LIKE THE, THE ADA REQUIREMENTS. I LIKED SEEING THAT INCLUSION, MOVING IT TO THE FRONT. IT ISN'T CURRENTLY IN AN AWKWARD SPOT AND TO THE POINT OF SOME PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE THERE IN THE PAST. IT'S THE PRESENTATION ALMOST TAKES PLACE RIGHT WHERE SOMEONE, IF THEY NEED TO LEAVE EARLY WITH ADA NEEDS, CANNOT LEAVE WITHOUT AWKWARDLY INTERRUPTING THE PRESENTATION. SO THE BUILDING BUILDING WAS DEFINITELY FUNCTIONALLY BUILT FOR A DIFFERENT TIME. AND THOSE HISTORIC ELEMENTS CAN BE PRESERVED WHILE BRINGING IT UP TO A FUNCTIONAL STANDARD THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY. THE ELEVATED AC UNITS. I LIKE THE INCLUSION OF THAT. THE EXPANSION OF THE UTILITARIAN ELEMENTS. YOU COULD SEE THE INTENTIONALITY IN THAT, THE IDEA OF MAKING MORE RESTROOM USE A DEDICATED SPACE FOR THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE NOTCHES OF SHOWING THAT YOU HAVE WHAT IS THE BEST INTEREST OF THAT BUILDING IN MIND? I WOULD SAY DOES NOT ACCUMULATE ACCOMMODATE USES EFFECTIVELY. I WOULD JUST ADD THE THE KITCHENETTE. IT IS CURRENTLY IN AN AWKWARD SPOT TUCKED AWAY, SO I DIDN'T SEE ANY DESIGN ELEMENTS THERE. I DID SEE IT MENTIONED AS A BULLET POINT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE IN A CITY MANAGER MEMO OR WHATEVER. THE NEXT STEP IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE IT WASN'T. I DIDN'T SEE A VISUAL OR AN IDEA OR UNLESS YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I TRUST IT WILL BE MORE INCLUSIVE AND MORE FUNCTIONAL, BUT I JUST WHERE IT IS NOW AND WHAT IT'S DOING NOW, IT'S DEFINITELY KIND OF TUCKED OFF ONTO THE SIDE. THE OTHER THING WAS THE INCLUSION OF, I THINK IT WAS REFERRED TO AS A GAZEBO IN THE FRONT. I THINK WHATEVER DOES COME FROM THAT DESIGN, ADDING THAT ONE, THE FUNCTIONAL BENEFIT WITH RAIN SEASONS IS GREAT. BUT TWO, I THINK TO MR. JONAS'S POINT, IF IT DOES COME INCREASED VENUE FOR WEDDINGS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT IS GOING TO BECOME A STAPLE OF THAT BUILDING IN TERMS OF PHOTOGRAPHY, IN TERMS OF MARKING IT AS A DESTINATION. SO THAT'S AN EXCITING ELEMENT. IT'S NOT HISTORIC, BUT IT POINTS TO THE ABILITY TO TO KEEP WITH HISTORY AND ALSO ADD ADD A GENTLE, IT'S VERY SENSITIVE OF THE HISTORY AND IT'S GENTLE, BUT IT DOES MODERNIZE THE BUILDING. AND I THINK THAT THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE TO WANT TO APPRECIATE ITS HISTORY. SO OVERALL, AN EXCITING DEMONSTRATION HERE TONIGHT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS. SO BRINGS BACK THE MEMORY. WHEN I WAS IN MY ALTAR BOY DAYS, WHEN I PLAYED THE GOOD SHEPHERD IN THE PLAY THERE, THAT ONE WAS THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH FLIP. THAT WAS WHEN I WAS. YEAH, ON WASHINGTON STREET, ON WASHINGTON STREET. BUT I THINK ALL THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ARE IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THE ONE POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY FOR IT. SO AS TO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR, WE'RE APPROVING THE DESIGN. I THINK YOU'VE GOT WHAT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY STRONG SUPPORT FOR US TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. SO TO THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK OUR APPROVING THIS IS NOT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR CURRENTLY WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE TIME FRAME FOR THIS AND THE SEQUENCING OF THIS OR PHASING IN. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT GIVEN THE TIME OF YEAR AND THE ABILITY TO GET THIS DONE, AND POTENTIALLY THE WILLINGNESS AND THE INTEREST OF THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE PROJECTS THROUGH, ONCE WE GIVE APPROVAL THAT WE NOT THAT WE NOT DILLY DALLY AROUND, BUT PUT IT, PUT IT, FIND A PLACE, PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, TALK TO US. AND I THINK IT'S YOU. YOU HAD MY SUPPORT WHEN I SAW YOU GET RID OF THAT THREE TIERED STAIRWELL TO HELL COMING OUT OF THE CHURCH. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SURPRISED WE HAD. TALK ABOUT MICRO TRANSPORTATION EARLIER. [01:45:04] THIS IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN THAN THAT. I MEAN, I'M SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE INJURED. YOU HAVE TO REALLY GRAB THAT SIDEWAYS RAIL TO COME DOWN. SO I THINK WE'RE MAKING A BIG IMPROVEMENT NOT JUST IN THE HANDICAPPED ACCESS, BUT IN THE OVERALL FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT BUILDING. IT'S IT'S SCARY, ESPECIALLY WEDDINGS. USUALLY THERE ARE FOLKS EVEN OLDER THAN I AM THAT COME AND GO UP AND DOWN THOSE STEPS. AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN EASY LIFT. SO LET'S DO IT RIGHT. WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT PARK. WE'VE GOT IMPROVEMENTS EVERYWHERE. AND THIS LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT ONE. SO I'M EXCITED TO. YEAH, YEAH, JUST JUST ONE THING. AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE CAN REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE ACOUSTICS IN THAT BUILDING ARE AMAZING, BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE OVERWHELMING BECAUSE YOU COULD BE SOMEONE COULD BE TALKING UP FRONT. IF ONE PERSON TALKS IN THE BACK, YOU CAN'T HEAR NOTHING. FOR SOME EVENTS, IT MIGHT BE OPTIMAL, BUT FOR A LOT OF OTHER EVENTS, NOT SO. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SOUND BARRIER TECHNOLOGY COULD BE PUT IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY. I MEAN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOUND PANELS AND THINGS THAT YOU CAN PUT IN IN SELECT AREAS THAT CAN MANAGE AND MITIGATE THAT. SO DEFINITELY MY SUGGESTION HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. YES. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I'M, I'M AN OLD GUY AND THAT YOU HAVE THAT CIRCLE ON THE GAZEBO THERE. CAN THAT BE A PEACE SYMBOL? JUST KIDDING. WHAT'S PEACE HALL? NO, NO, JUST I MEAN HIPPIE HALL. IT'S JUST I JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THE WHOLE IDEA OF USING PROFESSIONALS TO GET THIS ON THE ROAD AND GOING DOWN AND TAKING, TAKING AN OLDER BUILDING, KEEPING IT, BRINGING IT UP TO NEW. BUT HAS HAS THE OLD LOOK. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I THOSE OPPOSED FIVE NOTHING 2020. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 2026WWTF [10.g) 2026 WWTF Schreiber to Deniter Process Modification Task Order – Engineering Services] SCHRADER TO DETTMER PROCESS MODIFICATION TASK FORCE ENGINEERING SERVICES. THIS PROJECT IS ONE THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR 2023 UTILITY MASTER PLAN, AND THE REQUEST IS TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH STROUD ENGINEERING INCORPORATED FOR $394,620, AS INDICATED BY THE MAYOR FOR THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING FOR THE 2026 WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY. SCHREIBER TO DENATURE PROCESSING, MODIFICATION, AND MR. MUELLER IS PREPARED TO FULLY PRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM TO YOU WITH MR. STROUD. THANK YOU. MISS MANNS STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ATTACHED ENGINEERING SERVICES TASK ORDER AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $394,620 WITH STROUD ENGINEERING FOR DESIGN AND PERMITTING SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE 2026 WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY. SCHREIBER TO DENIED OR PROCESS MODIFICATION PROJECT. AS COUNCIL MAY RECALL, THIS PROJECT WAS IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE CITY'S UTILITY MASTER PLAN AND IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE AGING AND NON-OPERATIONAL STATUS OF THE SCHREIBER UNIT AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, AND CONVERT THE SYSTEM INTO A PROCESS THAT BETTER ALIGNS WITH OUR CURRENT TREATMENT PROCESS AND OUR EXISTING OPERATIONS, ALONG WITH OUR LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OBJECTIVES. THE CITY HAS WORKED SUCCESSFULLY WITH STROUD ENGINEERING ON SEVERAL PROJECTS TO INCLUDE OUR UTILITY MASTER PLAN UPDATE FOR THE 2023 2024. THE 2020 324 WATER DISTRIBUTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, THE ROBERT M RIVERA FLEET MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY OXIDATION DITCH REHABILITATION PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON AT THIS TIME. BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AND FAMILIARITY WITH THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, THE STAFF IS CONFIDENT IN THEIR ABILITIES TO PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT. AND ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THAT, ONCE AGAIN, WE FOUND THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, IN ORDER TO GET THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR THEM, WHEN WE TAKE THEM TO LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS, IS A RELIANCE ON SHOVEL READY, YOU KNOW, SO TO SPEAK, PROJECTS. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS GET THIS PROJECT TO A POINT TO WHERE WE REALLY CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND REQUEST REQUESTING FUNDING FOR THIS, IF THAT CAN REALLY PAN WELL. AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. BRANT HEATH WITH STROUD ENGINEERING, WHO CAN PRESENT THIS A LITTLE MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I HAVE, AND GIVE YOU SOME FURTHER DETAILS ON THIS. THANK [01:50:08] YOU. COLIN. MY NAME IS BRANT HEATH. I'M PRINCIPAL OF STROUD ENGINEERING. AND FIRST THING I HAVE TO DO IS APOLOGIZE. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE ELOQUENT. SO BUT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE. ONE SECOND, ONE SECOND. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO AS AS COLIN MENTIONED, THIS IS THE PROJECT TO CONVERT THE SCHREIBER PROCESS UNIT TO A WHAT IS TERMED A D NITER PROCESS. A BRIEF HISTORY OF YOUR SYSTEM TREATMENT SYSTEM. IN 1983, THE SCHREIBER TREATMENT SYSTEM WAS CONSTRUCTED THAT PROVIDED YOU WITH 1.5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY TREATMENT CAPACITY. IN 1989, YOU HAD A THREE MGD EXPANSION, WHICH INCLUDED TWO NEW OXIDATION DITCHES, CLARIFIERS FILTERS, CHLORINE CONTACT BASIN. AND THEN IN 1992, YOU HAD ANOTHER 3 MILLION TREATMENT CAPACITY EXPANSION. SO OVERALL, YOU'RE NOW AT 7.5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY ON A PERMITTED CAPACITY. AND OF THE PAST TEN YEARS, YOUR ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY FLOWS HAVE AVERAGED AROUND 5.2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THE SCHREIBER TREATMENT UNIT WAS AGAIN IS 1.5 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF THAT CAPACITY OF YOUR OVERALL SYSTEM. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT IN OPERATIONAL CONDITION AND IT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATED FOR A SUBSTANTIAL TIME. THE CURRENT USE OF THAT IS THAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO DIVERT FLOWS DURING HIGH OR PEAK FLOW PERIODS TO THAT BASIN, AND THEN THEY RECYCLE IT BACK TO THE HEAD OF THE OF THE PLANT. AND AND GIVEN THE CONDITION OF THE OF THE TREATMENT UNIT, IT'S IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR YOUR LONG TERM USE. AND IT'S, IT'S NOT ALSO UP TO SPEED FOR YOUR, YOUR MORE STRINGENT NITROGEN REDUCTION LIMITATIONS COMING FROM YOUR PERMITS. SO THIS IS A CHART OF YOUR PAST TEN YEARS FLOWS YOU. THE PURPLE OR BLUE LINE IS, IS SHOWING YOUR MONTHLY FLOWS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE DO VARY SIGNIFICANTLY, MOST LIKELY. AND, AND DURING HIGH RAINFALL PERIODS. SO YOU DO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL INFLUENT INCREASE DURING THOSE TIMES. BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE YELLOW LINE IS BASICALLY YOUR ROLLING ANNUAL AVERAGE. SO IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF YOUR TREATMENT FACILITY. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE MAIN TREATMENT OF THE THE PLANT TREATMENT IS ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE THERE FROM ENTRANCE ON THE MAIN STREET. AND THEN YOU ALSO. THE CITY ALSO OWNS A PARCEL OF 15 ACRES ON THE SOUTH ACROSS CROSS BAYOU, WHICH YOU CURRENTLY HAVE REJECT STORAGE FACILITIES THERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR ADDITION OF RECLAIMED STORAGE IF NECESSARY. SO THIS IS A LARGER SCALE IMAGE OF YOUR MAIN TREATMENT FACILITY. THIS POINTER. I HAVE A POINTER. YES, YES. NO POINTER. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE THE STRUCTURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SCHREIBER PACKAGE PLANT. IT'S SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE IMAGE. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT HAS A CONCENTRIC OUTER WALL AND A CONCENTRIC INNER WALL. THE OUTER WALLS BASICALLY IS IS ENCLOSED YOUR BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN INNER WALL THAT SEPARATES AND YOU HAVE A CLARIFICATION UNIT WITHIN THAT BASIN TO THE RIGHT. YOU'LL NOTICE THE FOUR FOLDED OVER CAROUSEL UNITS OR OXIDATION DITCHES. SO THOSE ARE YOUR YOUR PRIMARY TREATMENT AT THIS TIME. YOU HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUAL CLARIFIERS TO THE NORTH OR SORRY, TO THE WEST OF THAT, BUT TOP OF THE PAGE AND THEN THE FILTERS AND THEN CHLORINE CONTACT BASIN FOLLOWING. SO AS FAR AS THE BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT PROCESS, IT'S AN ACTIVATED SLUDGE PROCESS, WHICH THE SIMPLE DEFINITION IS IT'S A TREATMENT BASIN WHICH USES OXYGEN AND [01:55:03] MICROORGANISMS TO REMOVE POLLUTANTS FROM YOUR WASTE STREAM. OKAY. THE PRIMARY POLLUTANT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE AT THIS POINT IS NITROGEN. WHEN IT COMES INTO THE PLANT, YOU HAVE PRIMARILY IT COMES IN AS AN AMMONIA BASIS. AND THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE TREATMENT OR TREATMENT, YOU EVENTUALLY HOPEFULLY REMOVE MOST OF THAT NITROGEN FROM THE FROM THE FLOW STREAM. SO THE SCHREIBER UNIT, WHEN IT WAS DESIGNED, THE OUTER PORTION OF THAT TREATMENT BASIN PORTION, IT'S BASICALLY IT'S A CONTINUOUS FLOW, COMPLETE MIX TYPE BIOLOGICAL SYSTEM, WHICH MEANS FLOW COMES IN, IT GETS MOVED AROUND THE BASIN. AND IT'S BASICALLY IT'S COMPLETELY MIXED. THE WAY THIS SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED IS THAT THE BASIN WOULD BE IN ANOXIC CONDITION OR AERATION CONDITION. AND THEN THEY TURN THE AIR OFF. AND THEN YOU'D HAVE EVERYTHING SETTLED TO A ANOXIC SITUATION. SO OXIC MEANING YOU HAVE FREE OXYGEN WITHIN THE BASIN. ANOXIC MEANS YOU'RE LACKING THAT FREE OXYGEN. HOWEVER, THAT OXYGEN SOURCE IS BOUND WITHIN YOUR NITRATES, WHICH HAVE BEEN CONVERTED FROM AMMONIA. SO THE INTENT IS TO BASICALLY CONVERT THE NITRATES THEN TO NITROGEN GAS. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE AERATION PROCESS, IT BASICALLY VOLATILIZES INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. OKAY. SO YOUR OXIDATION DITCH BASINS, IT'S A, IT'S A SIMILAR END RESULT, BUT THEY ACHIEVE THAT THROUGH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROCESS. THIS TYPE OF PROCESS, YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS TERMED A PLUG FLOW. SO WATER COMES IN, IT STAYS WITHIN A, YOU KNOW, IT'S ITS POSITION AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE AERATION OR THE AERATION BASIN. AND FOR THESE UNITS, YOU HAVE A. YOU HAVE THE ZONES THERE, THE OXIC ZONES AND THE ANOXIC ZONES WITHIN THE SAME BASIN. SO AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE AERATION MECHANISMS, IT CONVERTS TO AN ANOXIC BASIN. AND THAT'S HOW YOU ACHIEVE YOUR NITROGEN REDUCTION IN THESE UNITS. SO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WE LOOKED AT OR CONDUCTED AN EVALUATION ON LOOKING AT OPTIONS TO EITHER REHABILITATE OR CONVERT THE SCHREIBER PROCESS UNIT, OR POSSIBLY GET RID OF IT AND USE WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. SO WE LOOKED AT FOUR OPTIONS. ONE WAS TO LOOK AT A CAPACITY RATE, REMOVING THE SCHREIBER AERATION AND CLARIFICATION PROCESSES. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER OPTION TO REHABILITATE, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY BE UPGRADING THE SCHREIBER UNIT WITH NEW EQUIPMENT, KEEPING THE SCHREIBER PROCESS. OPTION THREE WAS MODIFYING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TREATMENT PROCESS. THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE WITH YOUR OTHER OXIDATION DITCHES. AND THEN OPTION FOUR WAS TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE AND AND BASICALLY BUILD A ANOTHER OXIDATION DITCH THAT BASICALLY BE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE. SO FOR OPTION ONE, THE OPTION WE LOOKED AT, IF YOU TOOK THE SCHREIBER OFF, WHAT COULD WE DO WITH THE EXISTING OXIDATION DITCHES TO INCREASE THEIR CAPACITY? UNFORTUNATELY, DURING THE MODELING PHASE, WE DETERMINED THAT YOU WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL BASIN VOLUME TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THOSE FACILITIES. SO WE IDENTIFIED POTENTIALLY ADDING A NOX SEPARATE ANOXIC ZONES AND BASINS UP IN TO THE UPPER RIGHT HAND SIDE. IN ADDITION, YOU STILL NEED TO INCLUDE THE LOSS CLARIFICATION CAPACITY. SO IN 2024 WE ESTIMATED THIS AT AROUND 15 MILLION FOR THAT OPTION. OPTION TWO, WE LOOKED AT REPLACING THE EQUIPMENT WITH NEW EQUIPMENT PROVIDED BY THE MANUFACTURER, SCHREIBER, WHICH WOULD BRING YOU BACK INTO AN OPERATIONAL CAPACITY. HOWEVER, THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM IS IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY UTILIZING. IN ADDITION, IT STILL UTILIZES THE SAME TYPE OF BRIDGE SUPPORT AND MOVING MECHANISM, WHICH HAS [02:00:01] BEEN PROBLEMATIC FOR ITS ENTIRE HISTORY. SO WHILE THIS IS THE LOWEST COST OPTION, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT LONG TERM BENEFIT. OPTION NUMBER THREE IS WHERE WE USE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. WITH MODIFICATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING INTERIOR WALLS. WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING. BASICALLY CONVERTING. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO IMPROVE THIS BY INCLUDING A SEPARATE ANOXIC ZONE OUTSIDE OF THE BASIN. SO THIS BASICALLY TURNS THIS INTO A TWO STAGE OXIDATION DITCH, WHICH IMPROVES YOUR ABILITY TO CONTROL AND AND REMOVE NITROGEN AS WELL AS YOUR OTHER BIOLOGICAL COMPONENTS. THIS OPTION, AGAIN, BACK TWO YEARS AGO, WE ESTIMATED AROUND $6.5 MILLION. OPTION FOUR IS WHERE WE REMOVE THE SCHREIBER UNIT AND BASICALLY REPLACE IT WITH A ANOTHER DITCH CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. AGAIN, THIS OPTION YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE ANOTHER CLARIFIER TO REPLACE WHAT YOU LOST. THIS WAS BY FAR THE HIGHEST OPTION COST WISE AT APPROXIMATELY 19 MILLION. SO AS A RESULT OF THIS EVALUATION, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATION OF OPTION THREE. SO THE PROJECT DESIGN SCOPE INCLUDES PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WHICH IS REVOLVES AROUND A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT. ENGINEERING REPORT WHICH WOULD IDENTIFY AND DESCRIBE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL DESIGN. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE PERMIT PROCESS AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. AND ASK A QUESTION. YES. YOU JUST SAID YOU'VE GIVEN US ALL FOUR OPTIONS AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING US THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING OPTION THREE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO. IS THERE AN OPTION FIVE SUCH AS FIVE BEING THAT IT WAS ONLY TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THE YOUR PREDECESSOR SPOKE HERE RELATED TO THE RESILIENCY ISSUES AND THE HIGHER TIDES, AND MADE A SUGGESTION THAT ONE DAY ALL OF THESE PLANTS WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MOVED. NOW, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE THAT FROM OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, BECAUSE OPTION FIVE COULD BE TO BUILD A PLANT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. THAT COULD BE A 3 MILLION GALLON PLANT OR SOMETHING RELATIVE TO OUR SERVICE AREA. SO IF THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY COST, I THINK IT'S WORTH TALKING ABOUT THE OPTION BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE COSTS ARE QUITE REASONABLE CONSIDERING THE $50 MILLION COST THAT I'VE HEARD SOMEWHERE ELSE, 50 MILLION WILL NOT BE WILL BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET IF YOU MOVE THE PLANT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO ARE WE. ARE WE FINALLY DROPPING THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THIS PLANT? CORRECT. AND IF I MAY, WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT THAT THE TREATMENT PLANT AND THE ELEVATION FOR THOSE TANKS AND THE TOP LEVEL OF THOSE ARE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH, EVEN IN SOME OF THE CATASTROPHIC LEVELS IN THE 70 YEAR MAP OUT THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED. SO IN THAT WHILE YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REMAIN ON SITE THROUGH OUR SKATER PROGRAM, YOU CAN STILL OPERATE THAT PLANT AND AND MAINTAIN THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT FROM A REMOTE SITE. AND SO IT, IT'S LESS ABOUT THE COST EFFECTIVE ASPECT OF IT, ALTHOUGH THAT IS THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT FACTOR HERE BECAUSE A NEW PLANT WOULD, WOULD PUSH YOU INTO THE BILLION DOLLAR RANGE. BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE OR LESS THAT THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS THAT WE CONDUCTED, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT IT'S STILL MAINTAINS AND THAT STRUCTURE IS STILL SUFFICIENT ENOUGH IN ITS ELEVATIONS AT THE PEAK LEVELS THAT IT WILL BE OKAY IN THOSE EVENTS. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT, WE WOULDN'T WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE EXPENSES. BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE IT, THEN I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T GO WITH OPTION FOUR, WHICH HAS THE MOST FLEXIBILITY. AND IF IN FACT, OPTION FOUR INCREASES OUR CAPACITY OR NOT, IT DOESN'T INCREASE THE CAPACITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTAINING THAT 7.5 MGD PERMITTED CAPACITY. SO ALL OF THE OPTIONS WERE WERE TRYING OR TARGETING THAT PERMIT CAPACITY FOR WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH. SO SO I ONLY CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COST FROM TWO YEARS AGO COULD BE DOUBLE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. I'M NOT SURE THAT THOSE HAVE RAISED THAT MUCH. WE HAVE SEEN INCREASES. AND AGAIN LOOKING AT CURRENT. AND SO WHAT IS THE HOW LONG WILL. I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE WE [02:05:01] WOULD GO TO THE CONSISTENT TYPE OF USAGE. AND IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND THEN YOU ELIMINATED IT. SO, YOU KNOW, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, THE THIRD OPTION IS WHERE WE ARE STILL MAINTAINING A SIMILAR TYPE OF TREATMENT PROCESS, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY IMPROVING IT BY SEPARATING, PROVIDING A SEPARATE ANOXIC ZONE. SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY USING WITH YOUR OTHER OXIDATION DITCHES, ALTHOUGH THEY ACHIEVE THAT WITHIN A SINGLE BASIN. OKAY. BUT THIS GIVES YOU ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY BY SEPARATING THAT ZONE. AND WE CAN CONTROL THE AMOUNT OF FLOW GOING INTO THAT ZONE AND BE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE. GOOD. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, JUST JUST TO FOLLOW ON THAT. THIS IS THIS IS THE PROJECT DESIGN SCOPE FOR OUR FOR THE TASK ORDER. SO AGAIN, THIS IS BASED AROUND OPTION NUMBER THREE. AND SO WE'VE LISTED BASICALLY FOR THE FINAL DESIGN YOU HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN PROCESS AS WELL AS THE THE PERMIT ASSISTANCE AS WELL. IS THERE A LONGEVITY. NUMBER TWO, DIDN'T HAVE A LONGEVITY. IS THIS IS THIS THREE HAVING LONGEVITY? ABSOLUTELY. SO AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE REMOVING THAT TYPE OF MECHANICAL ROTATION ELEMENT. WE'RE PUTTING IN THE SAME TYPE OF, OF AERATION SYSTEMS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE OTHER OXIDATION DITCHES. YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO BE REPLACED. BUT AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE OTHER DITCHES, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT, 30 YEARS. SO. WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? APPROVING? WE'RE APPROVING. JUST PLEASE, SIR, CAN I RUN THE SHOW FOR A DAY? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU ASKED THE ANSWER. I'M. WE APPROVING OR CHOOSING AN OPTION HERE? NO. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE JUST. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE. ENTER. ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT. THE ENGINEERING AGREEMENT? YES. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE KNOWN THE HEATH FAMILY. DON'T YOU WANT ME TO SAY WHO I AM AGAIN? OKAY. THIS IS CAROL KENNARD AND I LIVE AT SIX EIGHT, TWO EIGHT RIVER ROAD IN NEW PORT RICHEY. I HAVE KNOWN THE HEATH FAMILY SINCE HE WAS VERY YOUNG, AND HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE WATER. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE WORDS I WOULD PUT IT, BUT THEY HAVE HAD THEIR HANDS ON WATER FOR YEARS THROUGHOUT THIS AREA IN FLORIDA AND BEYOND, AND I JUST KNOW THAT THEY ARE VERY GOOD PEOPLE AND HONEST PEOPLE. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? DO ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? I DO NOT. DO I HAVE A TO APPROVE? DO I HAVE A SECOND? WHICH ONE? GO AHEAD. JUST START BY SAYING A COMMENT WAS MADE OVER STROUD ENGINEERING AND THEIR CREDIBILITY AND A POSITIVE MANNER. AND I WOULD CONCUR. JUST JUST TO ADD AT SOME WORKSHOPS, A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT RELATED AT A COUPLE WORKSHOPS AGO, IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE WE'VE HAD THEM. WE DID A STRATEGIC WORKSHOP ON HOW WE WANT TO SEE THE COUNCIL MAKE UP AND THE DYNAMICS WITH THE CITY ADMINISTRATION, AND ONE OF THE POINTS I HAD RAISED WAS BEING ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND SEE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT WERE LAID OUT, AND THEN STILL GIVE CITY MANAGEMENT AND THE STAFF THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND THAT OPTION, PRESENT TASK ORDERS. AND THERE WERE SOME OF THE PUSHBACK TO THAT FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR TWO, WAS AN ELEMENT OF MICROMANAGEMENT OR DOING THE CITY MANAGER JOB. I THINK TONIGHT PERFECTLY POINTS THAT OUT FROM STROUD ENGINEERING'S AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS PERSPECTIVE. THEY LAID OUT THE OPTIONS. THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION. THEY GAVE THE CONTEXT BEHIND THE OPTIONS. IT WAS WELL DONE. IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND INFORMS THE PUBLIC. IT REALLY HELPED ME UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, THE ANGLES AT THIS, AND EVEN INSPIRED A COUNCIL MEMBER TO PRESENT SOME LONGER TERM, 70 YEAR VISIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AND THE, YOU KNOW, FLOOD MITIGATION WHEN IT COMES TO OUR COASTAL REGION. SO THAT BEING SAID, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE THIRD OPTION MAKES [02:10:01] MAKES SENSE. I JUST HAD ONE ONE QUESTION RELATED TO THE PROJECT THERE WAS EARLY ON YOU HAD MENTIONED DIVERSION AND ITS CURRENT. THE CURRENT USE OF THE SCHREIBER FACILITY FOR. IT'S NOT OPERATIONAL, SO IT DIVERTS SOME FLOW. HOW. HOW DOES THE. HOW DOES THE. SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THIRD OPTION, HOW DOES THAT OPTION IMPACT. IS THERE STILL ABILITY TO DIVERT THE FLOW. WHAT DOES THIS CHANGE FOR THAT DYNAMIC? NO. NOW YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL OPERATING BASIN. SO THE FLOW CAN GO DIRECTLY TO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO DIVERT TO ANYWHERE ELSE. IS THAT IS THAT PRESENT ANY RISK WITH OVERFLOW OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT? NO. THE PLANTS ARE DESIGNED FOR HANDLING PEAK FLOW PERIODS. SO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PERMIT CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT YES, THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A FACTOR IN THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THESE TREATMENT PROCESSES. YOU HAVE YOUR COLON OKAY, YOU WERE INCHING UP THERE A LITTLE BIT TO THE SECOND. YEAH. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. VERY INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU. SURE. NO, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT COUNCILMAN BUTLER HAD TO SAY. YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE PRESENTATION THOROUGH. OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE PROBABLY OVER PEOPLE'S HEADS BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. BUT I DO HAVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE JUST FROM GOING OUT THERE AND KIND OF SEEING IT FIRSTHAND. YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT I DO LIKE THE FACT OF GIVING ALL THE INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, ON THIS BIG KICK OF TRANSPARENCY. SO I THINK WHAT YOU PRESENTED WAS VERY TRANSPARENT TO ALL OF US. SO APPRECIATE THE FORESIGHT AND APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS. CAN EARNING WHAT WE PERCEIVED BEFORE. I DO KNOW THAT THE 4,951% ASPECT WAS I BROUGHT UP ONCE BEFORE IN DETERMINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY, WE STILL HAVE THAT SAME PERCENTAGE OF CAPACITY. IT WOULD BE MY EXPECTATION THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD FOLLOW ON THE CAPACITY AND NOT ON THE CURRENT FLOW. OTHERWISE, I'D BE WANTING TO RENEGOTIATE WHETHER OR NOT THAT THIS RENOVATED PORTION, WHICH IS REALLY EXCESS CAPACITY, BECAUSE AS YOU EXPLAINED IT, THE OTHER CURRENT UNUSED, NOT EXCESS, BUT UNUSED CAPACITY, BECAUSE AS YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT, THAT. THAT YOU COULD HAVE DEMOLISHED IT AND STILL STAYED WITHIN YOUR AVERAGE FLOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE PUT YOURSELF AT RISK FOR A PROBLEM THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE CONTROLLED OTHERWISE. BUT WITH ALL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND I THINK THE CITY HAS TAKEN SOME OF THIS TO ROBERT RIVERA'S CREDIT, EASTERN FLOW OF SEWAGE, WHICH I'M SEEING, WE'RE GOING TO BE HOOKING UP TO, TO ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ON UP TO LITTLE ROAD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CAPACITY RESPONSE AS TO HOW WE'RE DOING WITH OUR CAPACITY. AND CERTAINLY IF, IF IN FACT, THE COUNTY OWNS 51% OF THIS PLANT, THIS IS A MAJOR RENOVATION, NOT A REPAIR, AND OUGHT TO BE SPLIT ACCORDING TO OUR OWNERSHIP. IN MY MIND. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. SURE. VERY INFORMATIVE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING. AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND SO LONG. [10.h) 2023/2024 Street Improvements Project Close Out] THANK YOU. 20 2023 2024 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CLOSEOUT PROJECT CLOSEOUT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING INCLUDES A DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF $115,192.43. THE FINAL PAY REQUEST IS IN THE AMOUNT OF ZERO SUBMITTED BY EASY CONTRACTING, LLC, AND THE PROJECT IS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE 2023 2024 AND THE 2024 2025 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. AND MR. MUELLER WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF. THANK YOU, MISS MANS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN. SO STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ATTACHED DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF $115,192.43, ALONG WITH THE FINAL PAY REQUEST OF $0.00. SUBMITTED BY EASY CONTRACTING, LLC FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE [02:15:06] 2023 2024 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. IN ADDITION TO THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED THROUGH THEIR CHANGE ORDER THAT WE HAD THEM GO THROUGH FOR THE 2024 2025 PROGRAM. AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THE 2023 2024 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WAS INCLUDED WITHIN THE CITY'S 2428 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND CONSISTED OF ANNUAL ROADWAY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BASED ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN DEVELOPED BY THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE GENESIS GROUP AND CITY STAFF. THE PROJECT INCLUDED MILLING AND RESURFACING, RESURFACING OF NUMEROUS ARTERIAL, COLLECTOR AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AS WELL AS SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND CONSTRUCTION OF CONCRETE FLUMES TO SUPPORT STORMWATER BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ROADWAY WORK, THE CITY ALSO COMPLETED APPROXIMATELY 3025 LINEAR FEET OF NEW SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE NORTH RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SIMS GRANT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE TANGO, THE TANGLEWOOD SUBDIVISION, AND THROUGH THE. THAT WAS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. TO EXPEDITE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 2425 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, STAFF INCORPORATED ADDITIONAL ROADWAY RESURFACING INTO THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT THROUGH THE USE OF OUR CHANGE ORDER THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL SOME TIME AGO, THESE ADDITIONAL ROADWAY SEGMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE CITY'S ROADWAY NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS WELL. SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDED MONROE STREET, JACKSON STREET, MICHIGAN AVENUE, GARDEN GROVE LANE, HOME CREST ROAD, ORANGE GROVE AVENUE, KENWOOD AVENUE, CHAPEL AVENUE, FOREST AVENUE, SILVER DRIVE, EMERALD DRIVE, OHIO AVENUE, SAPPHIRE DRIVE, OAK HILL DRIVE, VERMONT AVENUE, ANDERSON STREET AND DAVIS STREET. THE DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER REFLECTS FINAL CONTRACT BALANCING QUANTITIES AND ADJUSTMENTS ASSOCIATED WITHIN THE PROJECT. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL CONTRACT DOCUMENTS AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE ORDER AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE FINAL PAY REQUEST, AND THE AMOUNT OF $0 SUBMITTED BY EASY CONTRACTING, LLC AND FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WAS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS REQUESTED. SECOND, THE MAKER NO, I'M WE'RE ON A ROLL. THE SECOND, YEAH. JUST TO SAY THAT I HAVE A RUNNING TRACK RECORD WITH MYSELF TO OR RUNNING GAME WITH MYSELF WHERE ANYTIME I GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE ROADWAY, I MAKE IT A POINT TO LOOK UP IF IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS AND YOU'RE 025 RIGHT NOW, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO THINKS THAT THERE IS A POTHOLE PROBLEM WITH A CITY ROAD, IT TURNS OUT IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE CITY LIMITS. AND TO THAT POINT, WHEN THERE IS SMALL INCONSISTENCIES, A POTHOLE HERE, WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROAD. OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREW IS VERY QUICK TO ADDRESS THOSE AT EVERY CORNER OF OUR COMMUNITY. RIGHT? NO I'M GOOD, THANK YOU MATT. GOOD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY I, I THAT'S FIVE NOTHING I TB 26-018 [10.i) ITB26-018 Exterior Upgrades to City Hall and Library Project Bid Award] EXTERIOR UPGRADES TO CITY HALL AND LIBRARY PROJECT BID AWARD PROJECT AWARD IS BEING RECOMMENDED TO FC SIGNATURE CONSTRUCTION, AND IT IS FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $577,182. AND MR. MUELLER WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT. THANK YOU AGAIN MISS MANS. ONCE AGAIN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING REQUESTING THAT CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE BID AWARD FOR THE ITB 26-018. THIS IS FOR THE EXTERIOR UPGRADES FOR CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $577,182 TO SE SIGNATURE GROUP. ONCE AGAIN, AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THE CURRENT CITY HALL BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED CONSTRUCTED IN 1990 AND THE LIBRARY WAS RELOCATED IN 1991 TO THE FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE PIERCE GRAMMAR SCHOOL. THAT'S ITS CURRENT LOCATION. ALTHOUGH BOTH FACILITIES HAVE UNDERGONE IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS, THE PRIMARY BUILDING STRUCTURES AND EXTERIOR SYSTEMS HAVE LARGELY REMAINED UNCHANGED AT THIS TIME AND ARE THROUGHOUT AND THROUGHOUT THEIR SERVICE LIFE. THE PROPOSED PROJECT INCLUDES REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS WITH IMPACT IMPACT RESISTANT WINDOWS SYSTEMS, BRICK JOINT REPAIRS, AND THE INSTALLATION OF WEATHER SEALING AND VAPOR BARRIER PROTECTION. THESE. THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTENDED TO ENHANCE THE RESILIENCY, DURABILITY, AND LONG TERM PROTECTION OF BOTH THE BUILDINGS WHILE HELPING TO PREVENT WEATHER INTRUSION AND REDUCE FUTURE MAINTENANCE NEEDS. BID PROPOSALS FOR THE ITB [02:20:03] 26-018 WERE OPEN ON APRIL 10TH, 2026, AND A TOTAL OF FIVE BIDS WERE RECEIVED. BID AMOUNTS RANGED FROM A LOW OF $423,226.25, TO A HIGH OF $1,275,000. THE LOWEST BID WAS SUBMITTED BY QUALITY PLUS RECONSTRUCTION. HOWEVER, AFTER SOME REVIEW WITH RGA DESIGN AND WITH OUR CITY STAFF, WE DETERMINED THAT THE PRICING WAS BASED PRIMARILY ON ON A SYSTEM THEY CALLED EURO GLASS, WHICH WAS NOT SPECIFIED AS A PRODUCT WITHIN THE BID DOCUMENTS AND DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBSTITUTIONS. THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR A SUBSTITUTION. IT WASN'T SUBMITTED IN ANY RFIS. ADDITIONALLY, QUALITY PLUS RECONSTRUCTION REQUESTED AN 18% INCREASE IN WINDOW PRICING AFTER SUBMISSION OF THE BID DUE TO INCREASED COSTS. BASED ON THESE FACTORS, THE BID WAS DETERMINED TO BE NON-RESPONSIVE AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY REJECTED. THE NEXT LOWEST BIDDER WAS SC SIGNATURE, WITH A BID AMOUNT OF $577,182. THE PROPOSAL WAS REVIEWED BY RGA DESIGN AND CITY STAFF AND WAS FOUND TO BE FULLY CONSISTENT WITHIN THE PROJECT SPECIFICATIONS, AND THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH SC SIGNATURE CONSTRUCTION ON SEVERAL PROJECTS, AND OF THESE YOU WOULD HAVE MEADOWS PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND THE WEST MAIN STREET SIDEWALK AND DRAINAGE PROJECT. AND BASED ON THE CONTRACTOR'S PRIOR PERFORMANCE AND QUALIFICATIONS, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT SC SIGNATURE IS CAPABLE OF SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING THE WORK NECESSARY FOR THIS PROJECT. FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS WITHIN THE CITY'S CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AND APPROVAL OF THE DO NOT EXCEED BID TO BID AMOUNT OF $577,182. AN AWARD OF THE ITB 26-0182 SC SIGNATURE CONSTRUCTION CORP IS RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE. I HAVE A MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND I SECOND TO MAKER. NO, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE RESILIENCY OF ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS MOVING FORWARD. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP. MATT. I'M GOOD. AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS HERE WHEN THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT. AND THEN ALSO HERE WHEN THAT ONE WAS REMODELED AND SEEING US REMODEL YEAR AFTER YEAR, ARE WE ARE WE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL ENERGY SAVINGS FROM THIS? OR IS IT ALL RESILIENCY? ARE THESE STRONGER DOUBLE INSULATED OR IS IT JUST WE'RE GOING HURRICANE PROOF AND WE HAVE TO REPLACE OUR WINDOWS? THIS PROJECT IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON RESILIENCY. THERE MAY BE SOME BENEFIT THAT WE SEE FROM THAT, BUT THE IMPETUS BEHIND THE DECISION PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT WAS STRICTLY TO FOCUS ON THE RESILIENCY OF THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES. YEAH, I WOULD I WOULD START BY SAYING THANK. THE BIDDING PROCESS SEEMS TO HAVE SEVERAL BENEFITS, ONE BEING THE COMPETITIVENESS OF IT, BUT ALSO TO CATCH SOME OF THE INSTANCES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME UNINTENTIONALLY MISLEADING INFORMATION THAT MAKES A BID COME IN LOWER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND THE DESIGN CONSULTANT WHO HAD TO LEAVE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOKING OVER THE BIDS. AND THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THOSE ELEMENTS IN THE DESCRIPTION. I, I DO HAVE TO SAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO RAIN ON THE PARADE OF THE OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT WE HAVE A, A CITY THAT HAS PAID INTO THE TAXES FOR SOME TIME NOW AND DOES NOT HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SEEING THEIR TAX DOLLARS USED FOR THE PURPOSES OF RESILIENCY. I DO KNOW WE'VE MADE THE FIRST STEP IN TERMS OF THE CRA USING BEAUTIFICATION GRANT DOLLARS FOR CERTAIN HOMES IN A VERY SELECT AREA AND THE, THE THE NEW I'LL SPEAK MORE ON IT WITH SARA, BUT JUST TO SAY THE THE EXCITEMENT AND SOME OF THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR THAT HAS BEEN WELL SEEN. IT IS IT IT IS. I'M HESITANT. I FEEL A DISCOMFORT IN WANTING TO HARDEN THE BUILDINGS THAT ALLOW US TO OPERATE WITH THE, WITH THE PENNY FOR PASCO DOLLARS THAT OUR RESIDENTS PAY IN. WHERE, WHERE NO EXISTING PROGRAM IS IN PLACE FOR THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES, ESPECIALLY SINCE COUNCILMAN ALTMAN POINTED OUT [02:25:01] THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR RESILIENCY AND HARDENING. IT IS A COMMENT THAT I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE, CONSIDERING CONSIDERING MY MULTI YEAR ADVOCACY FOR SOME SORT OF RESILIENCY OR HARDENING PROGRAM THROUGH THE CRA OR THROUGH A GRANT PROGRAM WITH OUR CITY. BUT IT IS THE FACT OF THE MATTER. AND SO IT'S I, I GET WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE IT'S BEEN DONE. SO I GET THE NEED. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAD 800 PLUS 823 HOUSES IMPACTED BY THE HURRICANE WITH SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. THAT'S NOT INCLUDING MINOR NEEDS AND REPAIRS. AND THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AND WONDER, ASIDE FROM HAVING TO GET HOME INSURANCE AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY FOR THEIR 585 MILLION, WHAT THE CITY THAT THEY'RE PAYING EXTRA TAXES IS DOING SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPORT THEM WITH RESILIENCY. I JUST WANT TO WELCOME THE CITIZENS TO THE LIBRARY WHEN WHEN THEY GET A CHANCE TO COME HERE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NAY. SO IT'S 4 TO 1 COMMUNICATIONS. PATEL, YOUR FIRST. I HAVE A FEW THINGS. THE. I'LL START WITH SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I KNOW STAFF HAS. THE CITY MANAGER HAS PRESENTED A MEMO IN THE PAST WITH SOME ORDINANCES. 21 OF THEM THAT ARE IN SOME STAGE OF REVIEW. I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE HAVE BEEN PAUSED OR OR TABLED BECAUSE OF A CHANGE IN STATE LAW THAT MAKES US HAVE TO PAUSE THEM. THAT BEING SAID, THE ADU ORDINANCE, I HAD ASKED THE DATE ON THAT. THE ONE I COULD FIND WAS JUNE 26TH FOR FIRST READ, BUT I DO SEE THAT THAT SAYS TENTATIVE. DO YOU? DO WE PLAN ON HAVING THE A ADU ORDINANCE BY JUNE 26TH FOR FIRST READING? NO WE DON'T. AT THIS POINT IT WAS ACTUALLY DELAYED AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE. THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I MISREPRESENTED. THE PLANNING DIRECTOR ACTUALLY WROTE INTO THE ORDINANCE A PROVISION WHEREBY AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT COULD ONLY BE CONSTRUCTED ON A PROPERTY IF IT WERE HOMESTEADED. AND THE ATTORNEY HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, AND WANTED TO DO SOME LEGAL RESEARCH ON THAT PROVISION. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD NOT WANT IT PRESENTED THAT WAY TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD TO BEGIN WITH. AND. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT REPRESENTS THE INTENT AT ALL OF THIS COUNCIL, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD EITHER. AND I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT BEFORE IT'S PRESENTED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD. AND IT'S MY INTENT. THE THE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR IS OUT SICK WHEN HE GETS BACK TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE AND HAVE IT PRESENTED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD. AS SUCH. AND SO WE WILL DO THAT. IT'LL GET PRESENTED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD, AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THAT ORDINANCE. SO IT'LL BE A BIT DELAYED, BUT IT WILL PROCEED ALONG THEN. I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY PROVISION THAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE DELAY. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, EVERYTHING ELSE WAS BUTTONED UP IN ACCORDANCE WITH MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. BUT IT'LL MOVE ALONG THEN GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC RESPONSE AND SOME CONTEXT BEHIND THE ORDINANCE. AS FOR THE THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY MANAGEMENT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS, OR EXCUSE ME AT LEAST FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT WAS COMMUNICATED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGEMENT, WAS THAT IT WAS MOST APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE THE WILDFLOWER ORDINANCE AS ELEMENTS OF THE WILDFLOWER ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE TO INTEGRATE THAT WITHIN A LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE. IS THERE AN UPDATE ON WHEN WE SHOULD EXPECT THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS [02:30:03] OF THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE IN THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT I CAN FIND THAT OUT AND GIVE YOU A REPORT. ON THE STATUS OF THAT ORDINANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE REASON WHY I BRING THIS UP DURING COMMUNICATIONS, COUNCILMAN ALTMAN HAS A GOOD HABIT OF REMINDING US THAT THIS IS OUR ONE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WHILE I HAVE MADE PRIVATE EFFORTS TO GET UPDATES ON THESE, AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE IN PROVIDING THOSE UPDATES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF WE JUST READ THREE ORDINANCE, THREE ORDINANCES TONIGHT. WE READ SEVERAL. THE LAST MEETING. WE ARE CONTINUING TO READ THE ORDINANCE THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR OUR CITY MANAGER TO DO HER PART OF THE CHARTER. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL'S PART OF THE CHARTER, AS THE LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY MAKING BODY IS NOT LOST. THERE ARE 21 ORDINANCES THAT, OVER THE COURSE OF, I WOULD SAY, FIVE YEARS, THIS CITY COUNCIL, BOTH MY PREDECESSOR AND COUNCILMAN ALTMAN CURRENTLY AND MR. MURPHY, HAVE HAD. AND MR. CHOPRA AND HIS COUNCIL IN HIS COUNCIL ROLE AND NOW AS MAYOR, HAS HAS SAT THROUGH WORKSHOPS, HAS SAT THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS IN HOPES OF HAVING THOSE PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION. AND IT SEEMS THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT OFTEN TAKE THE LONGEST, UNDERSTANDABLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. BUT I JUST WANT US TO BE CONSCIOUS THAT WE ARE WE ARE NOW AT 21 ORDINANCES PENDING FOR REVIEW. AND EVEN WHEN YOU TAKE OFF, THOSE THAT ARE PREVENTING, YOU KNOW, ARE PAUSED BECAUSE OF STATE REQUIREMENTS, I STILL DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION WE CAN BE HAVING ABOUT THE ONES WE STARTED. AND AS, AS, AS TIME GOES BY, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF LOSE THE WE'VE HAD AN ELECTION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN NEW PEOPLE UP HERE. THERE WASN'T. BUT THAT COULD HAVE UNFORTUNATELY CHANGED THE POLICY DIRECTION AND NOT GIVEN US A CHANCE TO SEE IF THE POLICY WE INITIALLY INITIALLY WANTED WORKED OR DID NOT WORK. MY, MY ONLY PERSONAL EXAMPLE, AND I'M NOT BRINGING IT UP TONIGHT AS A QUESTION, BUT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IT'S HUNG UP BY THE STATE, BUT IT IS THE ORDINANCE. IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I ASKED FOR WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL AND I'M TWO, 2 IN 8 MONTHS IN AND I, I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE LANGUAGE FOR THE ORDINANCE. I PRESENTED SOME EXAMPLE LANGUAGE, BUT SO TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN AND A SIMPLE POLICY THAT I WANTED TO THAT WE AS A CITY MADE A DECISION ON THAT WE THEN AGREED IN A IN A WORKSHOP, WE SHOULD REVERSE THE DECISION ON. THAT WAS A POLICY DECISION WE MADE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION TO, TO EXECUTE ON. SO I DO THINK WE'RE FALLING BEHIND ON OUR OUR POLICY MAKING PRIORITIES. AND SO I WOULD JUST BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT. AND THEN, OH, GO AHEAD. PLEASE RECOGNIZE I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES, BUT IT WASN'T AS SIMPLE AS JUST ADOPTING THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU PRESENTED. THERE WERE THERE WERE MORE ELEMENTS TO IT. AND SOMETIMES STATE LAW IS EFFECTUATED. THAT GIVES US CAUSE TO STOP THE ORDINANCES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO ADOPT ORDINANCES THAT ARE PREDICATED ON STATE LAW THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED, AND THAT DOES GIVE US CAUSE FOR ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE TENDED TO. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE JUST DISREGARDING THE THE ORDINANCES THAT YOU'VE ASKED US TO DO. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PRIORITY. AND WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOUR ORDINANCE AT ALL. AND IT IS NOW HELD UP BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE STATE LAW IS DISALLOWING US TO TAKE ACTION ON IT, AND WE WILL TAKE ACTION ON IT AS SOON AS WE'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORT. AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING TO THAT, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE GO INTO BUDGET SEASON, WE DO PAY A STATE LOBBYIST. THE I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. I SAID THERE'S 21 ORDINANCES ARE DRAFTED OR EXCUSE ME, PROPOSED FOR ASKED FOR DRAFTING. WE DO PAY A STATE LOBBYIST TO FORECAST THESE. AND THE THE INDICATION WE GOT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME FREEZES UNDERNEATH. THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FOR HURRICANE CAME AFTER IT WAS ALREADY PASSED IN THE FORM OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT ONE OF THOSE ORDINANCES, AS OPPOSED TO A WARNING AHEAD OF TIME. AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE ORDINANCES PROPOSED CAME MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS, BEFORE THE HURRICANE HAPPENED, LET ALONE THE STATE MADE A CHANGE. SO I [02:35:01] IF THE CONVERSATION IS PRIORITIZATION AND THE CONVERSATION IS NEEDING EXTRA SUPPORT ON THESE ORDINANCES, THEN IF THIS COUNCIL FEELS THAT IN. IN. JUST TO GIVE THE SENSE OF IMPACT, WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS REACHING OUT TO YOU SAYING, HEY, I'D LIKE TO BUILD AN ADU. I HEARD THE COUNTY MOVED ON THIS. I'D LIKE TO BUILD ONE. WHEN YOU HAVE FOUR RESIDENTS SAYING, HEY, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO ADD A PORCH ADDITION TO MY HOUSE, INCREASING PROPERTY VALUE, BUT THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCREEN IT IN OR PUT SOME SORT OF MOSQUITO PROTECTIVE SURFACING. WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE WATCHING US INCENTIVIZE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, COMPARED TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS A LOT EASIER TO GO TO THOSE RESIDENTS AND SAY, HERE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE IT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO BUILD THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING, WHICH IS YOU GET CRITIQUE AFTER CRITIQUE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS PERCEPTION OF ROLLING OUT THE CARPET AND BUILDING A PACKAGE CUSTOMIZED FOR DEVELOPER, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE BALL ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS WANT TO BE ABLE TO FIX UP THEIR HOMES OR TO ADVANCE THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THEIR HOMES. AND I THINK DOING BOTH IS NECESSARY. AND IT'S I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP DURING THE BUDGET SEASON BECAUSE IF THE IF THE CORE REASON IS LACK OF RESOURCES, TIME, STAFF PRIORITIZATION, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY. IF IT'S MORE STAFFING, IF IT'S A MORE MORE ON THE LOBBYING SIDE, WHATEVER THE CASE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I THINK IT'S A CHRONIC IT'S BECOMING A CHRONIC PROBLEM. AND I THINK IT MIGHT NEED A BUDGETARY SOLUTION ON THE. I HAVE STUFF FOR COUNCIL TOO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO. DO YOU HAVE DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT OR DON'T? OKAY. THANK YOU. ON THE OFF ORDINANCES, THE. A MEMBER OF VOLUNTEER OF THE LOCAL SAINT VINCENT DE PAUL ORGANIZATION REACHED OUT AND I SAY LOCAL BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE SEVERAL AND NATIONALLY, MAYBE EVEN INTERNATIONALLY. BUT THE LOCAL ONE HERE REACHED OUT HOPING TO GET A PROCLAMATION RELATED TO THEIR ANNIVERSARY. AND I KNOW THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK WITH THE LIFT PROGRAM AND SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITH THE CITY. IF I WERE TO PRESENT SOMETHING, I USUALLY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, TAKES THE LEAD ON IT. IT'S HIS SIGNATURE. SO I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP. BUT IF I WERE TO GET SOMETHING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HE WOULD CONFER WITH THE MAYOR, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK TO GET ON THE AGENDA FOR ONE OF THESE UPCOMING MEETINGS? WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT. DO THAT. IF IT'S JUST A PROCLAMATION, YOU CAN GET IT TO DEBBIE AND SHE'LL WORK IT WITH HER STAFF AND AND PRODUCE IT FOR YOU. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO CHIME IN JUST BECAUSE I, I KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S YOUR SIGNATURE THAT GOES ON IT AND IT GETS READ OUT LOUD. SO I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP, BUT I'LL GET IT OVER TO YOU AND THEN WE'LL JUST PUT IT FOR PRESENTATION AND I'LL, I'LL LET THEM KNOW OF A DATE IF NOBODY HAS ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING FOR TONIGHT IS THE. AND THIS MIGHT BLEED OVER INTO CRA BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. YOU MAY RECALL NEAR DOBY'S, SOUTH OF THAT THERE IS THAT LAND THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE OF IT IS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SPECULATE HERE TONIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK TO THAT ROADWAY, INDIANA AVENUE GOING EAST, WE TALKED TONIGHT ABOUT PAVING ROADS. SIDEWALKS ARE ALSO IMPORTANT. THAT STRIP OF INDIANA GOING FROM CONGRESS TO IS THAT ROWAN DOES NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK. AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE A COUPLE MOBILE HOME STYLE AND NOT MOBILE HOMES, BUT SINGLE FAMILY SMALL SQUARE FOOTAGE HOMES, WHEELCHAIR USE. THERE'S A BUS STOP THERE. EXCUSE ME. WITHOUT A SIDEWALK ONE AND TWO WHEN I DRIVE DOWN CONGRESS. I HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE OF THE WINN-DIXIE OR EXCUSE ME, THE ALDI'S AND JUST THAT WHOLE PLAZA. YOU GET A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC ALONG CONGRESS GOING THAT DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY FROM THE THE, THE OLDER COMMUNITY THAT LIVES THERE. BUT WHEN YOU COME THE OTHER DIRECTION, YOU DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK TO ENCOURAGE USE THE DIRECTION OF WHERE THERE'S A SCHOOL BUS STOP AND THEN ROWAN, WHERE THERE'S AN ACTUAL PUBLIC BUS STOP. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FITS INTO WHATEVER FUTURE CRA POTENTIAL HAS FOR THAT PIECE OF LAND, BUT I WOULD HOPE I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE WE HAVE A PLAN FOR SIDEWALKS, BUT WE CONSIDER A SIDEWALK PRIORITIZING A SIDEWALK THERE TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT MAY BE COMING UP, IF THERE IS ONE, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF WE [02:40:04] JUST DID SIDEWALKS IN A COMMUNITY THAT I FELT NEEDS SIDEWALKS, BUT DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS WHAT YOU COULD SEE IF YOU DRIVE, IF YOU GO ON CONGRESS, YOU SEE THE TRAFFIC THERE EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR GUYS'S THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT. IT WOULD BE ADMITTEDLY, JUMPING THE LIST THAT WAS CREATED 2010, TEN YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO, THE COMPREHENSIVE 20 YEAR SIDEWALK LIST. BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND JUMPING THE LIST, IF THERE'S IF STAFF CAN MAKE IT, IF STAFF CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'S NEEDED AND IT FITS INTO A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I THINK YOU HAVE SOME PROBLEMS ON ON BOTH THOSE ROADS, CONGRESS AND INDIANA, THAT ARE NOT IN THE CITY. SO WE WOULD BE PAVING PROPERTY THAT WASN'T OURS, INDIANA FROM FROM CONGRESS TO ROWAN. I KNOW THE COMMUNITY TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IS NOT FULLY ANNEXED, BUT IS THE ROADWAY. NOT ENTIRELY. NO, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY IN THE CITY, I DON'T BELIEVE. WELL, MAYBE THEN. THERE'S PART OF IT THAT'S COUNTING TOWARDS THE FURTHER EAST. OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND PULLING IT UP. AND I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE WORKED ON COUNTY PROJECTS, PARTNERSHIPS WITH COUNTIES BEFORE AND MAYBE THEY'LL I'M NOT TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A COMPLICATED PROJECT, BUT I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL FOR, FOR SOME SORT OF ACTIVITY OVER THERE. I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP. I JUST THINK WE HAVE. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WE HAVE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN CITY LIMITS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO. THAT ONE IS IN THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S JUST SOME OF THAT PROPERTY IS NOT ON, YOU KNOW, TUCKED FURTHER TOWARDS ROWAN ROAD. AND WHEN YOU LOOK. IT'S ALSO SOME OF GOING NORTH ON CONGRESS ON THE EAST SIDE. WELL, NOT NOT CONGRESS AT ALL. IT'S ALL INDIANA IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. AND I'LL BRING A MAP. I'LL BRING A MAP IN. I OKAY, I'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME BECAUSE I DO WANT TO MAKE THIS ARGUMENT FOR THE SAKE OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO WALK OVER THERE. ONE BUT TWO, I REALLY WANT TO CONTRAST THE LAST PROJECT WE DID. I THINK IT WAS A PART OF A GRANT FUNDING, SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE DID IT. BUT THE THERE'S THE USE OF THAT SIDEWALK PROJECT IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE USE ON INDIANA. AND I CAN MAKE THAT. I'LL MAKE THAT. I'LL BRING THE DOCUMENTS SO I CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF IT TAKES A COUNTY PARTNERSHIP, IF IT TAKES WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER, IF THERE IS PLANS FOR ACTIVITY OVER THERE TO MAKE THAT WORK INTO THE MODEL, YOU JUST HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN CONGRESS ONE TIME TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE WOULD GO EAST DOWN ROWAN IF THERE WAS A REASON TO, IF THERE WAS A CONNECTION TO ROWAN ROAD, TO USE THAT CVS OVER THERE, OR TO USE THE BUS STOP THAT CONNECTS IT DOWN TO 54. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NOT TO IGNORE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S A SMART THING TO COME WITH SOME AUDIO, SOME VISUALS AND SHOW US WHAT YOU HAVE. IT'S DIFFICULT AT THIS TIME OF NIGHT TO, TO FOLLOW EXACTLY THE, THE THE DEAL, BUT ALWAYS OPEN. I'M GOING TO START WITH A RESILIENCE COMMENT BECAUSE I WAS AT THE RESILIENCY SUMMIT IN PALMETTO, AND THEN I SAW THE PICTURE OF ALL THE YOU GUYS HAVING A GOOD TIME AT THE TOURISM DINNER, ALL DRESSED UP AND LOOKING LIKE A BIG CROWD, WHICH WAS GOOD BECAUSE THOSE ARE COUNTY FOLKS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND IT KIND OF SEGUES INTO THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY. AND I'M GOING TO SEGUE THIS INTO A LARGER COMMENT, WHICH IS THE STATE LEGISLATURE'S ACTIONS, WHICH MAY AFFECT US, WHICH HAVEN'T BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR MUCH. BUT BACK TO COLIN AGAIN ON THIS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE. CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND IF THEY'RE SIGNED, WILL AFFECT US, IS THAT THE SURCHARGE TO THE OUT OF CITY RESIDENTS FOR 25% INCREASES ARE BEING IN THIS LEGISLATION. ACTION FOR US TO FEATHER THEM OUT, TO LOSE THEM. AND ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT ALLOWS US TO KEEP THEM IS TO HAVING EXISTING DEBT. AT THE POINT IN WHICH THE LEGISLATION GOES INTO EFFECT, WHICH CAN CAUSE US WE HAVE TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT AS TO WHY THOSE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS ARE GOING TO PAY A 25% INCREASE, BECAUSE THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. SO IT'S A HUGE EFFECT ON OUR REVENUE STREAM FOR THAT NEW STUFF THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PREPARED WITH A PRICE. REVIEWS AND CHANGES IN THE WAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE. BOTTOM LINE, YOU'VE PRESENTED AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT TODAY. I'M SUGGESTING [02:45:07] THAT WE MOVE RAPIDLY TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT AND GET IT ON THE BOOKS, BECAUSE ONCE JANUARY OF 2027 COMES, IF THEY SIGN THAT LAW, WE SHOULD BE, I BELIEVE, PROTECTED BY HAVING THE ABILITY TO SAY WE'RE PROTECTED, TO ENSURE THAT AS LONG AS THE DEBT REQUIRES OUR EXISTING. STRATEGY. SO SO WHEN WE BORROW MONEY AND WE PLEDGE REVENUE FROM UTILITIES, IF THAT PLEDGE REVENUE INCLUDES THE REVENUE STREAM WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW, THEN WE HAVE DEFENSE AGAINST LOSING THAT REVENUE STREAM. AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT SOMEBODY THAT IS SPECIALIZES IN THAT, THAT WE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF, AGAIN, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF REVENUE THAT WE COULD LOSE IF ONLY WE'D HAVE KNOWN AND TALKED SHOVEL READY. WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE CHECKBOOK READY. AND WE HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. THESE ARE SOME MASSIVE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. AND THEY'RE INCLUDING CHANGES TO THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCES. AND MOST OF THE CHANGES ARE AFFECTING COUNTY GOVERNMENTS AND HAVE A LESSER PROVISION ON CITY GOVERNMENTS. BUT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EVERYTHING FROM BUDGETING. IF YOU WERE AT THE COUNTY, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS. YOU'D HAVE TO PRESENT A BUDGET THAT REPRESENTS A 10% REDUCTION. AND IN ORDER FOR TO SHOW US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOU LOST 10% OF YOUR REVENUE. AND THIS IS ALL BASED ON SOME, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENCY ACT, I THINK IS THE NAME OF IT. BUT WE CAN'T NOT BE ON THE FRONT END OF THIS. AND SO TO THAT POINT, WHEN WE HAVE LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCES OR OTHER CONFERENCES OR CONFERENCES RELATED TO THIS, WE EVERY DIME WE SPEND EDUCATING OURSELVES AS A BOARD WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE. PRIORITIZING, YOU KNOW, THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE PENDING QUICKLY. SO, COLIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THAT THAT YET, BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR UTILITY REVENUE IS CARRYING THE DAY FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF WHAT WE DO, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ISSUES ABOUT HAVING TO EXPLAIN HOW WE ALLOCATE OUR COSTS. AND SO THE GRIP IS TIGHTENING ON CITIES AND COUNTIES UNDER SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION, AS YOU ALL KNOW. AND WE'VE GOT TO BE COGNIZANT OF IT. AND SO I POINT THAT OUT WITH ONE OTHER THING ABOUT RESILIENCY. AT THE CONFERENCE SOMEONE NAMED CJ REYNOLDS HAD OFFERED SHE'S BEEN OBTAINED BY THE COUNTY THROUGH THE HURRICANE POST HURRICANE FUNDING TO HELP DEVELOP RESILIENT HOUSING STRATEGY. AND ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT SHE'S WORKING ON, SHE'S LOOKING AT COMMUNITIES THAT THE STATES THAT THE ORGANIZATION SHE WORKS FOR TO FUND HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, RESILIENT HOUSING PROJECTS. AND WHEN WE SAY LOW INCOME HOUSING, EVERYBODY RUNS FOR THE FOR THE EXITS. BUT WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME HOUSING THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR TEACHERS AND POLICEMEN. AND JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY AT THIS POINT. AND SOME OF THE NEW TECHNIQUES FOR RESILIENT HOUSING ARE NEED TO BE DISCUSSED BY US BECAUSE IT IT TALKS ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF HOUSES. IT TALKS ABOUT SOME OTHER STRATEGIES TO LOWER NOT ONLY THE HOUSING COSTS, BUT THE COST OF LIVING. AND THE COST OF LIVING IS LOWERED BY LOWERING COSTS OF INSURANCE, COSTS, OF ELECTRICITY, COSTS OF EVERYTHING ELSE. SO A REALLY STRONG, HARD LOOK AT RESILIENT HOUSING THAT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT CARD TO THE CITY MANAGER. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, AND ASK HER TO INTERVIEW HER ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR US TO BE A LEADER AND HAVE A CHANCE TO GET SOME OF THAT. AND I KNOW THE DISAPPOINTMENTS WE'VE HAD WITH OUR GOING TO THE CDBG MAJOR FUND AND THE FACT THAT THEY'VE STRIPPED A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF IT. SO WHEN YOU FIRST PUT RECOMMENDED US IN, WE HAD PROJECTS WE COULD GO FOR. AND I'M BELIEVING THAT SOME OF THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN MAYBE PULLED BACK, BUT SOME OF IT MAY CAUSE US TO LOOK TO SOME OF THESE HOUSING ENTITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. MAYBE IT'S A LOW INTEREST LOAN, MAYBE IT'S A WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE CLEAR VISION ZONE. WE TALKED ABOUT SAFETY AND CORNERS AND DRIVING OUT IN TRAFFIC AND, AND SCHOOL YARDS AND VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE STREET THAT BLOCK YOUR VIEW TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN YOU COME OUT ON BUSY ROADS ARE, YOU KNOW, DANGEROUS. AND I THINK THAT. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT [02:50:11] EARLIER FROM I WANT TO ALSO GIVE KUDOS FOR FOLKS FOR THE BIG EVENT IN THE PARK, AND ONLY TO SEE MY MIND THINKING, OKAY, THERE WAS NOBODY STOPPING EVERYBODY WHEN THEY CAME INTO THE PARK TO CHECK THEIR BAGS. THERE WAS NO GATES OR FENCES AROUND THE PARK. THERE WAS NONE OF THE SECURITY PROTOCOL THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE IN THE CHASCO. AND THERE WAS FREE FLOWING BEER. AND SO I THINK IT'S TIME WE REALLY DO HAVE THAT MEETING AND TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE OUR POLICIES AND IF, IF THERE'S MORE PEOPLE AT THAT EVENT, WHICH THERE WERE, I THINK THE CHASCO IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE ITS METHODOLOGY OF WHAT IT'S DOING TO THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC. AND I'VE HEARD IT UP HERE, EVERYONE CONCERNED ABOUT THE $5, YOU KNOW, BREAKING THE BANK CHARGE TO GET IN. BUT IT'S ALSO A COLLECTION ISSUE AND A SECURITY ISSUE. AND AND WE HAVE LESS CROWDS AT CHASCO. SO YOU GUYS DO A FANTASTIC JOB OF DRAWING OUT THE CROWDS. AND I KNOW THAT MY REPLACEMENT ON THE BOARD HERE HAS SOME IDEAS. SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM WHAT HIS IDEAS ARE AND HOW WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THESE EVENTS WITH ONE LENS AND SAY, OKAY, IF THE CITY IS INVESTING ALL THIS MONEY THAT IT'S DOING, HOW CAN IT BECOME, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR DRIVER OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS THE CITY'S NAME ON IT AND USE THESE NONPROFITS IN A WAY THAT THAT THEY CAN RAISE MONEY FOR THEIR CHARITIES OR IN THE CASE OF CHASCO, RAISE MONEY TO PUT BACK INTO A FUND FOR MORE MUSIC AND MORE ENTERTAINMENT IN A, IN A WAY THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BUDGET THOSE NECESSARY COSTS THAT, THAT WE DO INCUR AND RIGHTSIZE THEM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE EVENTS ARE GETTING HUGE TURNOUT IS GREAT. LUCKILY, MOST OF THEM ARE MY AGE OR OLDER. AND SO YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEM SO MUCH. MAYBE. BUT. IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TOWN. MAYOR. YEAH, I'M DONE. BRIAN. WORRY ABOUT IT MORE. SO I, I'M, I WANT TO JUST HIT REAL QUICK SINCE IT'S FRESH. YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT PETER IS SAYING WITH MORE VENUES THAT WE'RE CREATING MORE EVENTS, WE'RE HAVING MORE PEOPLE. SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MAYBE RETHINK HOW WE'RE DOING IT. YOU KNOW, NOBODY LOVES THE FENCE. AT CHASCO I UNDERSTAND SECURITY, YOU KNOW, SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I PUT INFO OUT THERE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF NEED TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND PROBABLY DISCUSS AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS FOR ALL OF US. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HAVING THESE LARGE CROWDS, WHICH KUDOS TO OUR STAFF FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER, GETTING THE PEOPLE THERE. BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF FOR SAFETY. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WE'RE WORKING. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. BUT WE HAVE TO ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION THAT IT'S A POSSIBILITY. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE SOME IDEAS WITH CHASCO, WHICH I'M GOING TO BRING UP, YOU KNOW, IN OUR NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TOMORROW. SO I AM GOING TO BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ALONG THOSE LINES, IT'S FOR EVERY EVENT. SO NOT JUST THE CITY EVENTS, NOT JUST CHASCO, CODY RIVER, ANY OF THOSE EVENTS. SO WE NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, CONSCIENTIOUS OF THAT. AND THEN JUST REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BERTEL, I HAVE BEEN PESTERING, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE ADU SITUATION AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO JUST DON'T THINK IT'S JUST YOU ASKING THE QUESTION. IT'S I'M SURE NOT JUST MYSELF. I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS UP HERE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ASKING, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY I'M LEARNING THAT THINGS DON'T ALWAYS MOVE AS FAST AS WE LIKE AS YOU'VE EXPRESSED. SO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE. BUT I STILL REMIND, YOU KNOW, OF THOSE ISSUES. AND THEN THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO BRING UP THE THE FLORIDA SPORTS COAST BANQUET WAS PHENOMENAL. YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN MURPHY WAS THERE. YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER WAS THERE. YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST KIND OF NICE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER FOR SUCH A GREAT EVENT, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST JUST REPRESENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TOURISM. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ROB, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS TO KIND OF HELP US ENCOMPASS [02:55:02] OURSELVES IN WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY IS DOING. SO I HAVE MY MEETING THERE TOMORROW, SO I'VE GOT SOME POINTS THAT I'M GOING TO BRING UP. SO I'LL HAVE SOME INFO AT OUR NEXT MEETING. BUT THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING ARE REALLY BIG, AND I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE CAN DRIVE SOME OF THAT. SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S JUST A WIN WIN FOR ALL OF US. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO THANK TRAVIS DEWALT. HE'S HE'S LEFT ALREADY. HIM AND I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK HIM. AND THE CLASS OF 2026 GULF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES, YOU KNOW PHENOMENAL. YOU KNOW, FOR WHERE HE'S, YOU KNOW, COME FROM AND TO WHERE HE IS NOW. SO REALLY APPRECIATE HIM COMING IN. YEAH, I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CHASCO. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT FOR OUR CITY. AND IT'S DEFINITELY IN MY, IN MY MIND, IN DECLINE. AND I THINK THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE FOR ITS SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND THEN WHEN YOU DO HAVE THE MEETING, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE SIT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM MAYBE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO LET ME KNOW. BUT I HAVE. OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO TALK ABOUT. THERE'S WHEN WE DO GET THIS MICRO-MOBILITY ALL SETTLED DOWN AND I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY GOT OUR BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, ALREADY WRITTEN FOR THE ONE THAT'S COMING OUT NEXT AND WHAT A MONTH OR SOME WHATEVER IT IS. BUT I'D LIKE TO GET INFORMATION IN THE MICRO MOBILITY, WHAT OUR RULES ARE FOR THE NEXT BRIDGE. SO THAT SO THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT LISTEN HERE, COME HERE, BUT EVERY EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN GETS IT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH YOU AND ROB ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE GOLF CARTS AND HAVING A KIND OF A LITTLE SAFETY ARTICLE IN THERE ABOUT THEM TO WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN'T DO. SO BOTH OF THOSE, I THINK ANY OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY IS A FACTOR, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN THE BRIDGE. SO. SO ANYHOW, [11) Communications] THAT'S COMMUNICATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIVE MINUTE. I'D LIKE TO DEFER SOME TIME TO ANDY SO THAT SHE CAN DISCUSS THE FREEDOM 250 TRUCK MOBILE MUSEUM, WHICH SHE WROTE THE GRANT FOR, AND THE CHALLENGE COIN SHE'S PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT. YOUR CHALLENGE. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. MAN, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE ARE SO THRILLED FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO HOST THE AMERICA 250 TRUCK, AND THAT WILL BE COMING INTO TOWN AND AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC FROM 10 TO 5 P.M. 10 A.M. UNTIL 5 P.M. ON MAY THE 28TH, 29TH AND 30TH. THE 30TH IS ALSO THE SAME DAY AS THE NPR SUMMER KICKOFF HERE AT THE CITY HALL COMPLEX AND LIBRARY. AND IT INVOLVES ALL OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL AT EACH ONE OF THESE EVENTS. AND THEN LASTLY, I'LL JUST MENTION THAT AT YOUR SEAT IS A, AN AMERICA 250 LIMITED EDITION COMMEMORATIVE COIN. AND ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT IS THE CITY SEAL. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WATER, IT'S RED, WHITE AND BLUE, WHICH I THINK IS AN AMAZING AND BEAUTIFUL CONNECTION TO CELEBRATING AMERICA'S 250TH BIRTHDAY. AND YOU CAN PURCHASE ONE AT THE LIBRARY, AT THE WATER BUILDING, AND ALSO AT THE RECREATION CENTER. DOES THAT RED TIE THAT I'M LOOKING AT, MAN. HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING? OH, NO. OKAY, WE HAVE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.